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Hi Laureet, Could you illustrate that with some practical examples of hexagrams?
Are these 2 x 8 options supposed to each be mutually exclusive?
That's a pity... as it then doesn't add up to 64 differentiated options.
That would be the case if the possibilities in the groups of 8 where mutually exclusive. However, if only in each pair the possibilities are mutually exclusive there are
2 * 2 * 2 * 2
*
2 * 2 * 2 * 2
=
16 * 16
=
256
differentiated options.
I think it's important here to have clearly defined sets, that are mutually exclusive. As I see it, from the 4 sets, 3 are about movement, and 1 doesn't seem to be. This makes it hard to put into a usuable system.
Sets about movement might be clarified and defined so that they actually are mutually exclusive. It would be important to define what this first set of moving really is, and whether a movement can be started while you're moving, and such.
Perhaps it would be possible to rework this into two sets of 8 mutually exclusive options, that would give 64 possibilities. But would they relate to the hexagrams?
I expect Chris will jump in shortly. Of course, he extends the 64 hexagrams to all their possible combinations of 4096 as he has explained many times before.
I really like that quotation, Lauree. Makes a lot of sense, indeed.
L
... Tai Hsuan ... is 256-dimensional while the I Ching is 64-dimensional...
«...gris es toda teoria, verde el arbol de oro de la vida...» Goethe
(era así?)
I think it's important here to have clearly defined sets, that are mutually exclusive... Perhaps it would be possible to rework this into two sets of 8 mutually exclusive options, that would give 64 possibilities. But would they relate to the hexagrams?
If we move to 4096 qualities (or on to 13Million) we can be overloaded with generals andso it is easier to focus on the hexagram level (since there is already 4096 aspects at this level without moving lines!)
You need to understand the Science of your art guys to appreciate what you are dealing with.
Chris
Hi, Chris:
.....
Second: Could you help me with some figures?
You speak about 4096 only without moving lines, but I don’t get this number, maybe you are not speaking of probabilities.
So the number 64 has more to do with a level of subdivision, and it changes from day to day. You can just as well go to the level of 128, or to 32, or to 5, or to 4096. It is up to you, what works best for you. And 64 seems to be a workable number.
LiSe
Fractals...
... Your focus is on possible access to the structures not the structures themselves. There are an infinite number of methods to link the structures to some context using probabilities etc but if you understand IC+ then you understand there is no use of such methods... There is NOTHING about using random/miraculous methods here... This is all about structure and what is possible given that structure - nothing here about accessing those structures using random/miraculous means...
I have been told it works even if you do not believe in it.
Niels Bohr - commenting on a horseshoe by the entrance to his laboratory
Thanks, Chris:
I now realize that you are speaking of structures. I wildy interpret it as support or continent, like mental rooms where all sort of things can be stored. You can layout a little house with few rooms or a great palace, both can store infinite ideas because all the angels fit in a pin point.
I remember Kerson Huang quoting Niels Bohr, not having Kerson's book at hand, I get this from the web:
Quote:
I have been told it works even if you do not believe in it.
Niels Bohr - commenting on a horseshoe by the entrance to his laboratory
Yours,
Charly
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