Can I count on him? 35 changes to 4

[Liselle]

The fact that she has departed in a huff based on a post on a forum suggests to me that her threshold for being offended is extremely low. Either that or she can't take an unpalatable truth - the two often go together.

I'm quoting Tohpol only because I find it a pithy, quotable sentence, but this is really directed at lots of other things said by other people, too:

We don't know it was true, and so saying "she can't take an unpalatable truth" is a big leap.

We don't even know 35.4 meant "keeping secrets" at all. As I said earlier, it can mean - very neutrally - not seeing a big picture of some sort.

 

[equinox]

Balance: Not to harsh and not too sweet..... like baby bears porridge.
Don't poke the bear and don't give it a sugar coma.

Great recipe.

 

[moss elk]

Ok one last related thing to add.

Episode 1 of the Offendy Awards:

[video=youtube_share;5X5ii8HPaZE]https://youtu.be/5X5ii8HPaZE[/video]

 

[Liselle]

*holds head*

I completely agree that "people these days" (sweeping umbrella statement) are very/too easily offended.

I do not agree that Padma in this particular case was too easily offended.

What if we just assume for one second that she wasn't sleeping with her housemate and wasn't keeping (bad) secrets? (Something I don't know, but for sake of argument.)

So she posted a reading, and here is the (edited) reception she got, up to the point where she left:

So, from how you described it, you have a few secrets you're keeping:
[...]
Or, instead, you have the option of sneaking around like a 'squirrely rodent.' (Squirrely in American slang meaning sneaky, erratic, and not to be trusted.)

Have you stopped having sex with him yet, squirrelly rodent? [ / "little mouse"]

Roasada, I'm not sure this is a tenant,
and not sure that she has given us an accurate portayal of the dynamics going on.

Sure it is speculative.
That's what we do in the dark.
But, It was speculation based on thoughts and feelings that arise from her words, (something isn't right here) and from the reading itself.

Right off the bat she was being accused of lying, sneaking around duplicitously, sleeping with her housemate, etc., based on what? Speculation, feelings, and jumping to conclusions about what 35.4 meant.

If she wasn't doing any of those things, and if 35.4 meant something we haven't thought of - ?????

 

[Trojina]

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I do not agree that Padma in this particular case was too easily offended.

Who cares though ? I don't care Look she wrote a very sparse post that was impossible to understand without further explanation.

She did make special reference to this man sleeping in a separate room which was strange and did make one wonder why she needed to say that.

All Moss said was 'are you still having sex'


Bloody hell it's no big deal.

It's not worth discussing anymore. How much energy do you want to waste on someone who didn't even have the energy to say anything more than 'FU'.

This is boring why not answer someone else now.


If you look back you can see Padma had responses from Freedda equinox, Rosada she could have engaged with them she didn't just have to say 'FU' did she. All she had to say was 'shut up I am not screwing my housemate'.

Time to move on. I think we had moved on actually.


The End

 

[equinox]

I think it might be a case of people perceiving that differently according to their own language/culture. I agree it sounds cheeky but to me it sounds more deliberately devilish/humorous that's how I 'hear' it .

Would you like to say that Germans tend to be humorless? I feel very much offended now.

 

[Trojina]

Oh No....


ah well there are English people here, Hilary, who didn't hear it how I heard it either.

I have the idea Moss is Canadian, not sure.

 

[Liselle]

It did seem over, but then M.E. popped back up with a YouTube video...which I didn't have to respond to, I guess.

By the way, I never answered this:

Also the 2 statements you quoted of mine don't belong together.

[...]

Why would you put them together then talk about ways round it

I thought part of what you meant was a contrast between being too suspicious, and not suspicious enough.

If that wasn't what you meant at all, it's what I thought and was responding to, at least.





(I'll also add that if those things had been said to me, I wouldn't have fluffed it off as no big deal, either. No idea what I would have actually done about it, though.

So we're left with some of us seeing this one way, and some of us seeing it another way.)

 

[rosada]

Just got back from a delightful luncheon with friends on the gorgeous day (just saying that to prove to myself I have a life beyond the computer...) Anyway, while musing over this mornings posts and thinking we should perhaps even thank Padma for inspiring such frank and open soul searchings i remembered a story and thought this might be a time to share the legend of...

The Magnificent Mystical FU Bird

The FU bird is a magical bird that lives in the highest hills of a strange and foreign land. He appears so rarely that even to catch site of him is considered to be an omen of great blessing. If perchance he should fly by and shed a feather it is quickly picked up and treasured for a lifetime. And finally, the ultimate honor, if this grand bird was to defecate and his droppings were to actually land a person the lucky recipient would never wash again.

The moral of this story is...
If the FU shits, wear it.

----
Sorry, this joke really wowed them in the 7th grade...

 

[Trojina]

It's a Clarity tradition to have videos at the end of rows/lively discussions - it signifies it's over and we are all jolly again.

I mean it doesn't always work which would be why you'll often find a Magic Roundabout video in the middle of a heated debate about 44 or something, someone thought it was over but it wasn't.

Crossed posts with Rosada, I don't understand about the bird.

 

[Trojina]

Brian the snail is offended - and rightly so IMO


[video=youtube_share;fcnKvqDMnKU]https://youtu.be/fcnKvqDMnKU?t=41[/video]

 

[rosada]

The FU bird joke is a pun. It's a play on the expression, "If the shoe fits, wear it." Yeah, bad, I know. That's why I apologized in advance.

 

[moss elk]

I have the idea Moss is Canadian, not sure.

This is very funny to me because when I meet new people and they hear my voice, they sometimes ask if I am Canadian. (I'm not, I'm a Merikin)
Somehow when you mix a Southern accent and a Midwest accent, then pass them through the biology of an elk/jackass, a few words here and there sound Canadian.

 

[equinox]

The FU bird is a magical bird that lives in the highest hills of a strange and foreign land. He appears so rarely that even to catch site of him is considered to be an omen of great blessing. If perchance he should fly by and shed a feather it is quickly picked up and treasured for a lifetime. And finally, the ultimate honor, if this grand bird was to defecate and his droppings were to actually land a person the lucky recipient would never wash again.

Crossed posts with Rosada, I don't understand about the bird.

I think she asked the Yi if the thread should be finally over, received 53.6 and offered an interpretation. (Sorry for the bad joke -- no offense intended)

 

[hilary]

Oh no... there's a post of Trojina's I really ought to reply to, but that would spoil the FU bird and the Magic Roundabout video, which wouldn't do at all. Instead, I'll just click 'thanks' on it and you can assume that I know what you mean.

 

[Freedda]

@Fredda ... That's not what I meant when I mentioned you. I found the following of your words speculative:

So, from how you described it, you have a few secrets you're keeping: you haven't told your boyfriend you want him to move in, and you haven't told your friend that you're going to kick him out of his home.

She never described it like that. It was what you conclude from her words in connection with your interpretation of 35.4. What she said might well be a fresh idea that she wanted to discuss with us here, not a lengthy sneaking around. Who can know that?

Written communication usually conveys too little meaning, so that our impression is always strongly influenced by our own assumptions. This applies to every form of communication, but especially to written communication.

First, for what I said above (which was not in response to anything you wrote, as far as I know), I ended with ... "Is that about it? And is this what you want support for?" So this person had the option to correct me, or confirm what I said, or tell me I'm wrong, or FU, or whatever ...

But what I wrote was based on what I was getting from what they said and from the Yi - a.k.a. my response to their query, imperfect as it may be. As far as it being 'speculative,' maybe 99% of what we post here is speculative - as in we're interpreting someone's query of the Yi, based usually on incomplete information and usually accompanied by their 'spin' on things. No one can expect that myself or any of us are going to get it 100% right (or maybe even 50% right), that's why the people posting here have free will to take what we say or leave it.

As to written communication - or all kinds of communication - conveying too little meaning ... well, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to make of that: should Hilary shut down this site? Or should we stop reading the Yi because it too is a form of written communication? Or might we start to communicate via mind reading? Of course it is an 'imperfect' form of communication, but that's what we've got to work with here.

As I said in my earlier follow-up post, I think there are ways I might have been able to say what I did better - perhaps to make it more accessible, or less offensive - but that's something I'm saying for myself only. However, that doesn't change my underlying reading and sense of what was happening, which might have had some 'negative' or less than honest aspects too it -- according to my take on the situation.

 

[pooja123]

If he is a friend,why kick him out. After all the bf will be sharing her bed. Unless she wants privacy of course. Then she should let him know thst her bf is moving in and ask the friend to look for a different place within 3 months or so. She asked if her bf would be supportive of her move. So obviously,theres no sneaking about here.Unless she doesn't want to hurt the flat mate's feelings about the situation and doesn't want him to the real reason why she wants her flat mate who has become friends,to leave. Tough ain't it.

Any way she asked if her bf would like the idea of moving in with her. The result is hex 35 changing to 4. I used the wen Wang his method. It shows two men leaving for different relationships in hex 35. In hex 4 she is not in the picture. The out come looks bad. I would suggest her to take it slow. Don't make rash decisions because her bf is not ready for any commitment.

 

[pooja123]

In hex 35, two male lines with Chinese zodiac fire snake. It clashes with day of the reading water pig. Resulting in the men leaving her. Her action line no 4 moves and changes her relationship status of something sinister,difficult to get out. Line no 2 is her bf ,he moves in to a different status of relationship that is embroiled in gossips and fights. It could be that his mom objects to it.He is loyal to his family or maybe moves in with a different woman. or it could be that he rather lives with his mom or grandma. She is in a difficult situation. The results are not in her favor at all.

 

[pooja123]

Anyway this thread situation is funny. I can't help it. I'm still laughing. Not at you Padma . Hope u have read our solutions or advices.

 

[Tohpol]

Well, for me, I think it would depend on how invested I was in the relationship with my accuser. If someone whose opinion I valued called me a cheat, I would want to 'defend my honour'. But if... hm, I am never going to be discussing my sex life in a public forum, so I'll have to come up with a thought experiment...

If I were having problems with a script I'd bought, and posted in the FB users group for the script to ask for help, and the second reply said, 'Did you ever get round to paying for this script you stole?' then what would I do? If my name and this accusation were out in public, I'd go to considerable trouble to clear my name, true. But if they weren't, I would probably do what Padma did and just leave the group in disgust. Pretty sure I would not be thinking, 'Oh good, here is a chance to face some negativity!' I mean... would you?

Unequivocally yes. If you're interested in seeing a potential blindspot which all of us inevitably have. But then a large propotion of people aren't interested in anything but having their ego stroked. And frankly, as you highlighted, if you discuss your sex life in a public forum whilst being a huffy wall-flower it's probably a fairly sure sign of gargantuan blindspots in awareness. Can't have it both ways.

 

[Tohpol]

 

[knotxx]

I am coming in late but I can't stop myself from saying that I'd've done just what Padma did, probably without the FU but that's because I'm more of an imploder than an exploder. This thread really, really shocked me. That's it.