Claiming rent assistance 31>3

[goddessliss]

When I made an agreement with the landlord re my present rental I was employed so didn't need the rental assistance but now I'm unemployed I'm barely surviving but I hesitate to tell the landlord as when I mentioned rent assistance as an option before he said no I'll just drop the price of the rent instead.

Please show me the rightness of claiming rent assistance (at this time)

Hex 31.1.3.4>3

Line 1 - best of intentions but my influence is being wasted at this time - wait for the right opening.

Now is that talking about my intentions to be employed I wonder?

Line 3 - I've 'suffered a wound'
which I assume means my loss of job

Line 4 - Things have changed.
Well they have and it's good to take decisive action - but what decisive action claiming or looking for work - which I already am doing.

Hex 3 - Difficulties at the beginning
I wonder if this just means difficult financially at present or just not employed at the moment

Please show me the necessity of letting the landlord know of my intention to claim

Hex 18.2.4>56

Oh dear that may change everything - so best to keep quiet

Please show me the way out of these dire straits

Hex 23.6>2

Strip my hut - really?

Liss

 

[goddessliss]

Well I decided I need to look after myself so I've claimed the rent assistance - however in the interim as much as it's a lovely beautiful place to live without work there's no money so what's the point - I was already living in a beautiful place I loved before I headed to Sydney - it's great living close to my grandson but you know...anyway I've been offered potential positions in the Australian outback and I feel it's about time I really started to live again. - Liss

 

[Trojina]

Your interpretations of 31.1.3.4 baffled me. Is there a wound in 31.3 ? Don't think so. Does 31.4 mean things have changed ?

apart from the reading if the landlord has said he will reduce the rent rather than you claim assistance it must be for a reason . I'm assuming if you make a claim, you will have to give his name and address (you would in the UK) and evidence of rent. His reason for not wanting you to do this will most likely be he doesn't want authorities to know he is renting his place so if you go ahead and claim he won't be happy. So don't claim without talking to him as you may get him into trouble. I think you should speak to him but that's not based on the readings it's just I like to keep on the right side of landlords.

The 31.1.3.4>3 shows some instabilty of intention. I mean in 31.1 intent is not deep, in 31.3 one is holding too closely to something and in 31.4 others are waiting for cues from you....I mean if you can be clear what you want they will fall in. hex 3 often feels like sheer chaos...but it's time to get helpers rather than give up IMO. Is your landlord a 'helper' ?

People have to do things undercover to survive so maybe he wants to keep this rental quiet...so why reveal it if he will reduce the rent ? What is your relationship with him like ? If it's good tell him your position and see what happens. You only just got there didn't you...

23.6....does suggest a total overhaul but my feeling is this is the overhaul you are in right now.

I could be wrong....but I wonder if you need to reconsider talking to your landlord ?

 

[Liselle]

Hi Liss,

I very much agree with Trojan here - don't be too fast to go against your landlord's wishes and claim assistance (can you rescind the claim you already made??), and my guess is that 23.6 is NOT actually advising you to up and move .

"There is a large fruit still uneaten.
The superior man receives a carriage.
The house of the inferior man is split apart." (Wilhelm-Baynes)​

A "large fruit" is some good thing that exists in the situation - and you're not eating it. In this case, I'd guess that's your landlord's offer to lower the rent if you find yourself in straits.

It says, "The superior man receives a carriage" - a carriage is something that can help you and make things easier for you.

On the other hand, if you don't avail yourself of the fruit and the carriage, you will be more like the "inferior man" whose house is "split apart." If you pick up and move, your new rental will be lost to you (which sounds all lovely, on an island and whatnot, unless its charms have already paled for some reason) - and, as Trojan said, if you get on the wrong side of your landlord, that could also mess things up (split apart your house).

I mean, Wilhelm-Baynes is full of unpleasantly judgmental language, but if you look past that - it's basically saying there is help available; you just have to take advantage of it. [Edited to add: 2 as the relating hexagram - be receptive...]

 

[goddessliss]

Thank you both - not he's not avoiding the authorities, I'm not sure why he's against the rental assistance.

Yes it has paled a bit I'm afraid - it's a beautiful place but it's also an expensive place to live, for me anyway. It's fine to save on the rent but every time I wish to go off island it costs me $13 - $20 for transport and without employment it means I go off island maybe once a week and that is just to buy groceries and as I can't afford anything else and still no one to share my life with, well it's just not fun. I may as well have stayed where I just moved from 2 months ago.
Also the residents are all easily 65 and over and the conflict, cliques and bitchiness between them is amazing. I can stay out of it no problem there but inadvertently I've managed to upset my closest neighbour by cutting down part of his passion fruit vine which was blocking my way to the electrical box and strangling my mango tree and now he's bitching about it to anyone who'll listen - I've been advised to beg his forgiveness and buy him some plants to replace it but in reality there is nothing wrong with the vine and there is still an abundance of passion fruit. And if he can get upset about something like that tomorrow it could be something else....It was an honest mistake but you know I don't need to be around such pettiness and crap.
So yes I'm not impressed by it all - if I had plenty of money it would be fine but I haven't and that's that. - Liss

 

[Liselle]

OH...dear.

I'm sorry this has turned so crummy, so fast.

What did the I Ching say about moving there in the first place? Do you remember? Could you link to it? I tried a bit to find the thread and the reading, but couldn't.

And of course now I don't know what 23.6>2 means, either. (I mean, I don't think it's actually about that fellow's "fruit" vine...ha...ha... )

 

[goddessliss]

I don't remember asking if it was the right place or anything like that via Yi but I do forget as I've so much going on at once and ask so many questions.

But the story goes a bit like this - when I got to Sydney I got a job within 2 weeks and also my readings started coming and via word of mouth I had eight new clients within 2 months. I tried desperately to try and find a place to live in Sydney because of the job and my grandchild and then I got a bit disconcerted with my job and Sydney. I applied for a job about an hour and half north of Sydney so I could still be close to the kids and I got the job and a place to rent near it on the same day. Then that rental fell through and I just couldn't find anything suitable and just when I gave up this rental came up. By this time I knew I didn't really want the new job and it's too far away from where I am now anyway, knowing I could (so I thought) hang to the one I still had and commute from my now new rental and look around for a job close to where I am. As things had fallen into place really easily in regards to employment since arriving in Sydney, I was confident I wouldn't have any problem finding another job. But try as I might for one reason or other things seem to have come to a standstill.
That then puts me in this dire straits position and for what it's worth I had no intuition or feeling that it was a wrong me to come here.
The positive of moving has given me a chance to return to self which I'd sadly been lacking for over 2 years, so it does lend for that but as for anything else - well I can't live on air alone.
What it's shown me living here is how much I'd shut myself away from the world since my breakup 5 years ago and now I'm ready to really, really live again.
- Liss

PS haha I'd had a similar thought about the vine

 

[Liselle]

I don't remember asking if it was the right place or anything like that via Yi

Am very tempted to nominate this situation as poster child for the "Yes, it IS necessary to ask the I Ching about every single thing" school of thought, because look what has happened now.

Argh.

 

[Trojina]

Oh I don't think it is necessary at all to ask about every situation....I think one could get easily misled by being too Yi dependent. I think Liss is where she needs to be, whether she needs to move or not it is still no mistake she's here.

I've said elsewhere I don't think being unhappy or in trouble always means one took a wrong turn. I don't think keeping to one's own path means one will never face trouble.

If you consulted about everything you would have the mistaken notion that by consulting Yi everything would always turn out fine...but it can never be like that.

Hexagram 3 showed up somewhere above...I think it's still early days.

 

[Liselle]

Well...the reason I said that was mostly because she JUST moved there, how long has it been, two or three weeks ago? And already she's pretty sure she can't stay. (Largely because of the fees every time she has to go off the island. That seems like a lot of money even with a job.)

I agree things happen in life, and what you think is good or bad changes all the time. But moving house is no small matter, and to have to do it again THIS fast - that's why I said that. I hope Yi would not have suggested it's a good idea to pack up and move somewhere for less than a month. (For most people in most usual circumstances, that is. I'm sure there are exceptions; it just didn't seem that Liss was looking for something so temporary.)

But - I have not at all been following every reading. So yes, who knows what might happen.

 

[Trojina]

True moving house is no small matter but Liss has moved a lot and was under pressure to move.

Myself I just wish she'd stay in one place for a while as I can't keep up. I mean the readings show it's hard to get the water from the well but is the answer moving immediately ?

Also in that 22.3 thread of hers I linked earlier I felt it did refer to this place she is in and I felt it was an omen for this place.

I meant this thread http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/frie...461-what-sort-of-place-is-this-Hex-22-3-gt-27

that I also linked to in this thread http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?18285-Hexagram-48


I tell you it is a full time job keeping up with Liss LOL ....I just want her to stay somewhere and am not ready for her to let this place go.....but you know maybe here my personal feelings are interfering with how I see the readings

As you say she moved here 2 or 3 weeks ago.....I mean she needs to let things happen doesn't she ?

It's not all a question of being pro active she has to allow space for things to happen too.

It's funny we are having a conference here about you Liss.

 

[Liselle]

Also in that 22.3 thread of hers I linked earlier I felt it did refer to this place she is in and I felt it was an omen for this place.

I meant this thread http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/frie...461-what-sort-of-place-is-this-Hex-22-3-gt-27

Yes, there's certainly a water reference, and especially if this island is actually a beautiful place, that does make sense.

But it also seems like a reading that could mean a lot of things...for example, could 22.3 mean something that appears to be all shiny-pretty, but (as I said above, entirely off-handedly, and - honest! - ignorant of 22.3 readings from last September), its charms then fade when you are faced with the "necessities" of life (hex 27)? Such as hefty fees every time you have to go somewhere?

I don't know. Liss has said (continuing the conference, lol) she needs some quiet and solitude, and the island seems like it should be wonderful for that, and for psychic healing, probably.

(I do think we need some pictures of this idyll.)

 

[Liselle]

Are there any appropriate jobs ON this island, so she doesn't have to go on and off it all the time? Lol - that is not from any reading at all.

 

[Trojina]

Yes for me 22.3 feels groovy but can lack substance. However she got it for a geographic location so I see it as more literal.

Also I feel that Liss may be in a very highly charged proactive state and may find it hard to take her foot off the gas. (she did get 7.4 recently) If life is very stressful even when the pace slows we don't. I have the feeling she will need a period of readjustment to kind of acclimatise to a new phase of life. Having said that financial necessity dictates or seems to dictate all right now and I can't be too glib about that....so what do I know.

My feeling is I want her to make peace about the vine, stay on the island and find a way through....but that may be my projection upon her situation.

 

[Trojina]

I've been advised to beg his forgiveness and buy him some plants to replace it but in reality there is nothing wrong with the vine and there is still an abundance of passion fruit. And if he can get upset about something like that tomorrow it could be something else....It was an honest mistake but you know I don't need to be around such pettiness and crap

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But if he's elderly with not much going on he may be paranoid and so on, so I think it's best for you to do as advised here since he may take you not apologising as ill will.

OTOH as I said, what do I know. I just want you to find a nice place to recuperate after all these hard times you have been having and if that means keeping an old guy next door sweet then so be it.

still you can't stay on the island just cos I want you to LOL.....

 

[goddessliss]

Oi I'm joining the conference too - you are both right about my situation on this island but it's definitely where I need to be and despite the 'hardships' I've decided to work through them and see what happens. Trojan I can't keep up with myself either, it is a full time job!! haha
Since being here I've been able to have the time to breath and think about exactly what I've been doing since the end of my marriage 5 years ago. I lost everything and I mean everything that was precious to me and yesterday I realised I'd been chasing and chasing and looking for things to replace what I lost.
That's only part of it of course, but nonetheless, I have to stop doing that because as Dr Phil says "how's it workin' for ya' and clearly it's not so I've decided to let the things naturally come to me and in the meantime get out there and have so much needed, long time coming good old fashioned fun whatever that is.
In terms of the 'issues', including mr passionfruit, that are not so fun living here - others that live here speak of the same thing without any prompt from me. Lisa it's a residential island only, no shops, businesses or anything else just houses so no chance of work and there's no doubt the superficiality shown in Hex 22 had a huge impact on my decision but again I feel it's a place I do need to be and thank god for the beauty of the surrounds.
I've worked out the rent assistance issue which has made things a whole lot easier for me financially although I don't wish to go back to living week to week either but for now I just have to sit with it and other things as Hex 7 has suggested.
I'm still looking for work, it would be silly not to, but it's not in desperation anymore.

I'm really grateful for your interest and honesty because I feel supported and it does make me think. Trojan we all project our own desires etc. on others haha but in this instance you are totally right!

- LIss

PS I've wanted to put photos up but I'm not sure where the attachment button is.

 

[goddessliss]

When I woke up this morning I thought how Hex 48 un is also playing a part here. - Liss

 

[anemos]

Since being here I've been able to have the time to breath and think about exactly what I've been doing since the end of my marriage 5 years ago. I lost everything and I mean everything that was precious to me and yesterday I realised I'd been chasing and chasing and looking for things to replace what I lost.

That's a lovely realization !! This is what I was trying to say when I mentioned your 24 reading. It has haunted me but seriously, imo was a significant reading. Hex 3 its not a pleasant place to be- its chaos yet it has potential. You are in a hex 3 , the ways i see it, with the "negative" and positive qualities of such a situation. The sprout is delicate; it takes time to become strong.

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