Confused by castings 18 to 17

[butterfly spider]

I am so so sorry to bother you all

I had the real urge to go and see my daughter - who is mentally ill and unstable.
I had hex 44 and then 29 which indicated that it would not be a good idea. She can get quite violent if I go on my own

Despite the readings something is telling me on a completely different level that I should go and help her especially as she is on her own. I asked her dad to go but he won't this weekend

I have just cast and for hex 18. All changing to 17. There is only one thread on this and it seems to say work on what is spoiled....

Can I please pick your beautiful brains on this one. I got involved in the notion of nurturing and breast feeding in a thread and it feels similar like my baby is crying and yet I can't feed it or nurture it. Although she is 22 I still feel somehow responsible and want to help

Xx

 

[mulberry]

Hi Butterfly,

You are not bothering anyone. What a serious and potentially dire situation to be in.

Can you quickly post which changing lines you had? It's a bit confusing as I can't tell whether both 44 and 29 were unchanging or if one led to another etc. Same with 18 which you said changed to 17... But it's a bit confusing.

Can you also write out the exact questions you asked? All help with interpretation, clarity...

Good luck

 

[mulberry]

Also if you got all changing lines on 18...wow. I would say there is a ton of energy on this topic at the moment and perhaps time is of the essence. If your gut is saying go, go. Work on what is spoiled is usually beneficial for resolving conflicts anyway. Do you have someone who can go with you to visit her so you are not alone? Can you call her first, or try to meet in a public place?

18 with that many changing lines is telling me-- action needed.

 

[butterfly spider]

Hello thank you Mulberry

I got 44 moving lines 1 and 2 asking the state of my daughters mind and how I should move forward with her.
This was at the weekend. She needs more help from social services and I need to get her more help somehow

I got 29 unchanging this morning asking specifically about going and seeing her this weekend.

Tonight I asked specifically about why I have such a strong feeling that I should go and see her. Sadly it is in a remote location and it is difficult as neighbours are some distance. Would have to go on own.
I have had to stop typing because my daughter phoned me. She is in a good mood- but that is not necessarily an indicator when I arrive. The hexagram was 18 every changing line to 17



I do not like casting again about the same problem but I am getting very strong energies coming through on this

X

 

[Trojina]

The main question is "does she want you there ?".

If she doesn't then don't go since you'd be going for you not for her.

Maybe she wants space from you that's why she gets violent with you ? If she wanted you there I'd guess she wouldn't be violent to you ?


44 can be pushy. Do you think you are trying to press too much mothering on her ? Why not let her come to you ?

Consider the 18 is about you....and these strong feelings you have to go to her are about your needs not hers. If all the lines of 18 are changing so is 18.2, Mother's Corruption.

Mothers often claim they only care about their children but can sometimes unknowingly trying to get their own needs met through the children..

So I think you need to stop pushing and start following what she wants. Hex 17 is prominent here as all the lines of 18 change. If she is angry with you then in her head she has good reason to be. That means spending time with her is not a good idea, especially if she hits you because she is angry with you.

let her set the pace. Only go to her if she wants it.

 

[butterfly spider]

Strong energiesd

Thanks for this Trojina you may be right

I spoke to my daughter and yes she does want to see me - it is Mothering sunday I forgot
Mulberry suggested that the energies on this were strong and they May be My son told me to go to bed as I looked tired I drifted off to sleep and realised that maybe it Is me that needs to see my daughter - as much as she needs a visit.

When I was 13 my maternal Grandmother died of myeloid lymphoma. She was so gentle and kind - and so unlike my mother. I was just getting to know her - and then she became ill. I think of her often. I smell her a lot too. A few days before she died she was very poorly but wanted to see me. This never happened and
My mother said it best to stay at home. I wasn't allowed to her funeral. I didn't say goodbye. I realised a few moments ago that she died on 14th March when she was 56 - the age I am now. She was very close just now

I am not sure if this is why I am having such strong feelings.

I will dream on it and think in the morning
Xx

 

[butterfly spider]

Update - had the most fitful nights sleep for a long time - almost to the point of being unwell.

Thank you for your thoughts Trojina and Mulberry
X

 

[butterfly spider]

I have just returned from yoga and meditation and have been feeling so shakey today physically. I know that my daughter wants me there and as a mother I really feel I should just go.
However I asked the I Ching if I should listen to the advise given by Trojina - about my own part in all of this.
I got hex 40uc. Trojinas unchanging hexagram link almost restated her previous advise. This is a wonderful place to see how interpretations have panned out.

I do have the real sense of an energy urging me to go to somehow move things along to another level and hex 40 does say this - the all moving lines of hex 18 certainly indicate action of some kind!!

My daughter sent me a text to say she has a pressie and card for me. - the fine line between treating her as an adult and as a child is difficult - perhaps this is the problem. Who am I going to see exactly

 

[butterfly spider]

I am feeling quite poorly - shivery and achey. I had decided to go and see my daughter by train tomorrow. I will see how I am in the morning. There are some DUP (dances Peace) this weekend too which we can both go to.

Perhaps I am being told something here. I am really never ill and this feels like I have just canoed hundreds of miles and am just too tired to move

Xx

 

[butterfly spider]

Update on the reading.
Despite not feeling 100 per cent I got on the bus with the dog to make the 7 hour train journey home to see my daughter. I really wanted to go home and she had said that she wanted to see me. Trojina focused my attention on the reason for my visit (thank you). I really don't think that I am pressurising her or pushing her at all - the opposite. In her head all sorts of weird and wonderful motions happen - some of them to do with me others not so.

I really wanted to go - but the pressure and pushing was to myself - this pressure you do when you want to make amends for not being around when you should have been - and some that is passed down from my grandmother to my mother to me and to my children. Somehow the feelings of energy get caught and trapped in a situation. My need to go and see my daughter was for me -yes- but it had a 'ton' of weight behind it.

I felt really unwell yesterday - absolutely leaden. And today I got on the bus - went all the way to the train station (hour) but felt so increasingly unwell that I returned back )another hour). After about 15 minutes I started to feel better and now am almost back to my own rather manic self. My daughter is fine about me not going

What is this about. Hex 18 to 17 certainly had energy about it although the previous castings were definitely cautioning against my travelling to see my daughter. The homeopath that I phoned last night (I took arnica 200) has just spoken to me to say that although my brain has wonderful memories of my daughter - a toddler a lovely girl etc - my body has a different memory - of bruising and battering. It was like my whole being was in competition with itself and that does produce an energy.

In relation to the reading - I think that hex 18-17 is about too much pushing and too much pressure - but I think that it was to myself and not necessarily toy daughter

I could be wrong of course - but I am feeling incredibly relieved at this moment

Xx