Do I need to see a doctor for my knee? 51.1 < 16

[ZeroPoint]

I slipped and fell after clearing my car of ice. At first it didn't seem bad but in a few hours the swelling was huge and I could not walk, even in crutches. The pain was incredible; fortunately my partner had medical grade painkillers I can use.

I asked Yi the question in the title. Wiki wing nailed it exactly: my foot slipped and the solid surface was abruptly not there; I was indeed coming from a place of Enthusiasm. Outer action not required, but stilling: I must hold onto the ladle. The sacred purpose is not to press on finding a job, but to press on with my online class on shamanism.

The learning experience for me seems to include these elements, this far:

1. A question asked about an immediate event gets a clear answer. There's nothing competing for focus.
2. It's not wrong to ask a yes-or-no question; it helps greatly if the only free will in the matter is my own.
3. It might be wrong to assume the immediacy of the question means the answer is equally bound by time. I was looking for a job. I am also educating myself about energetic healing and applying to school. The answer works for both situations, and the sacred one isn't affected by my bad knee. The mundane one is. I need to refocus on the background of Enthusiasm, the driving force behind both the accident and the future school, and put my attention there.

It's interesting to see the synchronicity between two situations that I didn't think were related.

I'm just putting this out there. I like reading other people's experiences and wanted to share this with like-minded folk. I've been really pleased with the added richness of Wiki Wing as interpretive guide.

 

[Trojina]

What about the question you asked ? What was your conclusion ? The answer suggests you're okay but it's a medical issue and you couldn't walk and so in your shoes I'd see a Dr regardless, unless it quickly improves.

I don't see 16 as prominent in the answer I see the line, the one line as more to the fore but if you do see it prominently, well then that is a big part of your answer.

Yes one can ask yes/no questions. To me this answer is a 'no', a no in as 'you're really shook up but you're okay, no harm done'. However there's no way I'd take that as instruction that you don't need to see a Dr if you still can't walk well.

Regarding your appreciation of wikiwing what about you putting this example in there ? Maybe you already have, but if not remember not to be hesitant about posting your own experiences there.

 

[ninagr]

ZeroPoint,

I also agree that it's fine to ask "yes/no" questions, and the Yi will answer them just fine. What did you decide to do about going to the doctor?

Given 51.1, I see it as encouragement to see the doctor for peace of mind ("laughter and talk" in the translation currently on my desk). Hexagram 16 also has the title "Providing For," or "Preparing For," which can advise preparation and prevention. Hope you feel better soon.

 

[ZeroPoint]

What about the question you asked ? What was your conclusion ? The answer suggests you're okay but it's a medical issue and you couldn't walk and so in your shoes I'd see a Dr regardless, unless it quickly improves.

I don't see 16 as prominent in the answer I see the line, the one line as more to the fore but if you do see it prominently, well then that is a big part of your answer.

Yes one can ask yes/no questions. To me this answer is a 'no', a no in as 'you're really shook up but you're okay, no harm done'. However there's no way I'd take that as instruction that you don't need to see a Dr if you still can't walk well.

Regarding your appreciation of wikiwing what about you putting this example in there ? Maybe you already have, but if not remember not to be hesitant about posting your own experiences there.

That's a good thought. I didn't think I could post there.

I'm starting to walk again, still with crutches, less pain. Bed rest and ice and anti-inflammatory meds have been helpful; nurse practitioner says as long as I continue, there's no need to see her. She said not to rush it. Full recovery could take a month, but if I'm already able to navigate my rooms I'm doing OK.

Thank you both :bows:

 

[Trojina]

So you did seek medical advice ? You must have if a nurse is advising you. That's good. Must have been a bad fall but maybe it's God's way of keeping you Covid free (or out of trouble) given you are stuck at home. Hope you recover well.

That's a good thought. I didn't think I could post there.

That's interesting I'm not sure why you'd think that. Anyone who joins can post their experiences and ideas there, that's the whole purpose of it, it's a collaborative book really. It's easy to post you press 'edit' button on the line or section you want to write about.

It's given me second thoughts about 51.1 since okay you'd be okay but you did need medical help and it sounds almost as if Yi is saying you didn't. Taking the line from wiki with Hilary's commentary

'Shock comes, fear and terror.
Afterwards, laughing words, shrieking and yelling.
Good fortune'

This line adds the idea of 'afterwards' to the judgement, where the fear and laughter come together. This one starts turning it into a story. 'Good fortune' because the shock is proving harmless.

51 zhi Hexagram 16, Shock's Enthusiasm, like the shrieks of delight on a roller-coaster, turning fear into laughter. Could be more generally a sense of something new and risky enhancing one's enjoyment, and a basic confidence. And making it into a story, adding 'afterwards', is a way of making 'big images' of the shock.

I recently asked about a more mundane/trivial matter of persevering with some expensive boots I'd bought online, imagining if they stretched a bit I could keep them. Got this line and thought yes I'm a bit shook up I spent this money and they don't seem to fit but it will be okay. However I had to return them, they really weren't going to stretch that much.

In the bigger picture we both survived unharmed I guess , well hopefully you won't have more repercussions. A very nasty fall just through clearing your car of ice and slipping, one wouldn't expect it to be that bad. Funny how seemingly small activities can cause so much harm. I once sprained my ankle by falling off a sofa. I was standing on it to shut the window and fell off but it was hardly an extreme sport yet it was quite a bad sprain.