dream interpretation help

[nrtood]

I ching question: i had a dream in which i am in a bus and obsessive about aliens (greys) and looking at the sky all the time to see if there is something, i was scared of them. nothing appears. from being busy in looking for greys i missed my destination station. Now i get off the bus and need to go home a long way on foot despite my tiredness. i ask my soul if i will ever meet them, the soul says, no. What does that mean?

I ching gives:The present is embodied in Hexagram 14 - Ta Yu (Possession in Great Measure): There will be great progress and success.
There are no changing lines, and hence the situation is expected to remain the same in the immediate future.
The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the upper trigram Li (Fire), which represents brightness and warmth.
The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the lower trigram Chi'en (Heaven), which represents strength and creativity.

first, the i ching says i am gonna do it big in what i want to achieve, in every question i ask recently.

second, i had a new mystical understanding today on the nature of greys from looking at aleister crowley lam drawing. And i thought this understanding drives my fear away from them. Yet in the dream i was obssessed scared and excited about them, which is in complete contrast with what the ching says. It look like the dream implies i am missing something, but the i ching says...

Any ideas?

 

[ilemacedonia]

First, what Greys represent to you? When you think about Greys, what is your first thought? Give a couple of keywords about your opinion and viewpoint on them so we can discuss later.

 

[nrtood]

OK, by association, the words that comes to mind right now is "universe" and "egg". In my youthood when i first stumbled in pictures and documentaries about aliens it scared me, it was for me something strange, ununderstandable, foreign and evil.

As for my theory about them today goes like this. The experience with greys or ufo's is summoned by the unconsciousness and it can be pleasent or terrorizing, if it terrorizing it means that archetype of the serpent eating it's tail (unconsciousness forcing ego (tail)) is colliding with some other archetype (usually social) which is completely foreign to you and largly abanadoned and forgotten in the current era by humanity. The grey's can't come to you if not premitted by the unconsciousness to do so. Because they are from other civiliazation they lie dorman't in the unconsciousness as foreign elements, once it (unconsciusness) wake them up, they come and called to "attack" and to make you notice and pay the price of that lost archetype. In other words, i believe that understanding your experience with them whatever they really showed in your life or not means a great leap forward in your personality. Also, as goes for magickal thinking, their head is shaped like an upside down egg, which is symbolising the hidden in contrast to the discovered universe (which in various cultures and mysticisms is shaped in the shape of an egg).

There is more but i don't want to type it.

I havn't got any idea if it is true, but that's for my intuition.

Also, they aren't a prominant thing in my life like how it is look like.

And crowley sayings about lam, don't lead me anywhere.

 

[bamboo]

wow, I wish Val was here to talk to you about the men in grey that figured do largely in her dreams...

also there is a video on youtube you mght find interesting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmGuaVRi7-s

 

[pocossin]

I think your dream is warning you that you are worried about the wrong thing. Your dream is about your watching for Fire in the Heaven, but you missed your bus stop and must struggle home. The story is told that Thales, while gazing at the stars, fell into a ditch. When he cried for help, an old woman commented: "How can you expect to learn all about the heavens, when you cannot see what is just in front of your feet?" There are lowly ordinary matters that need attention. Your tiredness in the dream suggests a health issue. The soul saying no, that you should focus on less psychological matters.

 

[ilemacedonia]

I think I Ching is trying to tell you that you're not dealing with the tasks in your life step by step and gradually. Your enthusiasm is strong and wide and you want enlightenment immediately, but in that aim you're forgetting about the "small things" which make the everyday life.
Possession in Great Measure
The image of POSSESSION IN GREAT MEASURE.
Thus the superior man curbs evil and furthers good,
And thereby obeys the benevolent will of heaven.
"The benevolent will of heaven" here is (in my opinion) the stuff that you're missing in the appropriate bus stations - the everyday "small" things in your life. I'm also believer of existing life out of this planet but the one thing that we must never forget is that we're now at the earth and that is what is count after all (experiences or beliefs).
I also enjoy Crowley's writings though I'm a Bardon lover but in reading them there is one possible tendency - and that is to think that one is not an ordinary human being and to forget about the mundane actions and the need to establish order in our everyday lives.
You want to befriend the whole universe but you're missing the everyday life tasks. That is good - you're possessing great measures, but don't forget about everyday life and mundane tasks and establishing an order in your life. Tame your Horses (Will & Enthusiasm) and put your life in order - make balance between Kether and Malkuth, don't forget about Malkuth.

Best,
Ile

 

[nrtood]

Deep thanks to everybody who answered my question!

pocossin:
Can you clarify, about what health problem it suggesting. It is really a riddle for me. I can sleep awfully lot in life too and i am very tired. doctors don't know what it is. I have skin disease (dry skin in the eyebrows) and itching wounds on the hands. And my hand lines look awfull. I know you are not a doctor. But i see you understand dreams. Maybe you understand what disease the dream speak about.

pocossin and ilemacedonia:
taming my will and enthusiasm, but by what means, it is still confusing because the ching says to pay attention to low matters (i know what are they!) but i don't have a lot of ideas how to by what means to pay attention to them.

Bamboo:
Very intersting video, but i couldn't hear alot of what he was saying about the greys because he spoke to weak a manner.

Hmmm, merkabah, sound like pre kabbalistic jewish mysticism, there is a jewish mysticism which is called "eichalot hamerkavah" (chariot hall), i wonder if there is a connection.

Twelve years, i wonder too if there is any connection to the twelvers school in islam.

thanks again to everybody.

 

[pocossin]

Can you clarify, about what health problem it suggesting. It is really a riddle for me. I can sleep awfully lot in life too and i am very tired. doctors don't know what it is. I have skin disease (dry skin in the eyebrows) and itching wounds on the hands. And my hand lines look awful.

I am not a doctor, but your description of the condition (tiredness, dry skin, unrestful sleep) and hexagram 14 suggest to me fibromyalgia.

http://www.fibromyalgia-symptoms.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibromyalgia

This condition is hard to diagnose, and many doctors do not recognize it. Fibromyalgia makes tendons hard and sore, especially at points of connection to muscle or bone. You may self-diagnose by pressing along the tendons on both sides of the back of the neck with your fingers. There should be no sore spots on these tendons. If you find some, that is a sign you may have fibromyalgia.

These sore spots may be found all over the body and can be massaged out by hand by yourself or by an inexpensive electric massager. This is somewhat painful, but in a few days the hardness and pain will diminish. Eliminating these sore spots will gradually reduce the severity of fibromyalgia but doesn't cure. Do try to reduce the amount of stress in your life.

Eczema runs in my family, and I have found that tincture of iodine and castor oil as a hand lotion help. For scalp eczema, when the hair is damp, put a drop or two of iodine on a finetoothed comb and comb it through your hair. Do this over a sink and be careful because iodine stains everything it touches. In my experience minute amounts of iodine will control scalp eczema.

For eyebrows you might touch the iodine applicator to a few drops of water in a small bottle cap and stir. The water will turn slightly yellow. Then shut eyes and apply to eyebrows with a finger. If cracks in the hand are irritating, especially at the tip of the thumb next to an index finger, iodine will reduce the irritation. A grocery store cashier who often has her fingers taped told me that.

For castor oil as a hand lotion, press your palm on the opened bottle, quickly tip the bottle and return to upright. Don't pour the castor oil into your palm -- that's too much. Then add a teaspoon of water to help spread the castor oil and rubs your hands together. Be sure to cover the back of hands and fingers too. Wear cloth gloves for a few minutes to dry the hands. Cloth gloves are inexpensive, and I never go out in winter without wearing them.

I hope these home remedies help.