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regardie

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hi!

I wanted to see more clearly in an affair that obsesses me. I was invited in a country house by an old girlfriend of mine that I have not seen for a year. This is a fairly well-known homeopathic doctor in my country. Every time we meet we have a date that each time ended badly. Indeed, during this stay, everything went relatively smoothly when we were only two. A few days later, a friend of hers came also to spend a few days in her country house and that's where everything went from bad to worse. I felt something strange between these two women and I actually felt excluded;my friend spent more and more time with the other woman. I was not sure how to describe this relationship. Finally, I said no to everything she offered me as outputs to the outside with her friend, I even refused to eat with them, not finding my place in this trio.
I even threatened to leave, and I'm always with all this income and more confusion.
The last night was the most dramatic, my friend ignoring me greatly, only talking to me as to oppose my words, and moreover eating at table next to the other woman at he opposite of me.

The next morning she asked me to leave implicitly, saying she was fed up with my behavior. The two women going on holiday through my country. I really thought they had a relationship or a beginning homosexual relationship .

I asked three questions to the yi:

what has happened during this stay that I found myself exluded?

15: 6 at 1 final:36

que me recommandez vous de faire quant à la suite de ma relation avec Catherine?
what do you recommend me to do next in my relationship with Catherine?

26

Do these two women have a homosexual love affair?

32: 6 in 1 final:14

thanks for any help that will throw some light in this affair.

reg
 

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what has happened during this stay that I found myself excluded?

15: 6 at 1 final:36

Is this first line moving in hexagram 15, usually denoted as 15.1 > 36?

Maybe there is a difference of social classes to be bridged? Just guessing, because of the reference to "behavior."

what do you recommend me to do next in my relationship with Catherine?

26

Your feelings are explosive. Let the pressure off slowly and carefully.

Do these two women have a homosexual love affair?

32: 6 in 1 final:14

The resulting hex would not be 14 unless both the first and sixth lines were moving. Anyway, assuming that the first line is moving, Yi seems to be saying that unfortunately they were jumping into a relationship rashly and without thinking. It doesn't say anything about the sexuality of the relationship, only that they were jumping into it with determination but by doing this they were only digging a hole for themselves that it would be difficult to get out of later.

You seem to have gotten caught in the cross currants of this other relationship. How unfortunate! But you know what they say: Two's company and three's a crowd. How awkward.
 

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No need for many readings to get a simple answer

Six line layout: Hexagram 32.1.6. to 14
起卦时间:2012年08月04日02时36分
神煞:天乙—酉亥 福星—酉 日禄—午 羊刃—巳 驿马—亥 桃花—午 华盖—丑
干支:壬辰年 丁未月 丁酉日 辛丑时
旬空:午未  寅卯  辰巳  辰巳


六神  伏神    震宫:雷风恒          乾宫:火天大有(归魂)
         【本 卦】           【变 卦】
青龙       ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财庚戌土 应×→ ▅▅▅▅▅ 子孙己巳火 应
玄武       ▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼庚申金     ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财己未土  
白虎       ▅▅▅▅▅ 子孙庚午火     ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼己酉金  
滕蛇       ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼辛酉金 世   ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财甲辰土 世
勾陈 兄弟庚寅木 ▅▅▅▅▅ 父母辛亥水     ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟甲寅木  
朱雀       ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财辛丑土  ×→ ▅▅▅▅▅ 父母甲子水  

Line 1/6: the female
Line 6: your female friend is using the other female to bounce you out.
For you, no luck with this female. Definitely not you future spouse (line 6 change line = fire, fire sits empty under the house of spouse and also you companion house).

Line 2: there is another person in that relationship under the marriage line. The person reappears under the change hexagram at line 2. You do not know anything about this person.

You will not find out because you inquire about the situation and your parameters is reflected in the day of the reading and not theirs.

I casted a reading for you using your female friend as the parameter:
起卦时间:2012年08月04日02时36分

神煞:天乙—酉亥 福星—酉 日禄—午 羊刃—巳 驿马—亥 桃花—午 华盖—丑
干支:壬辰年 丁未月 丁酉日 辛丑时
旬空:午未  寅卯  辰巳  辰巳


六神  伏神    巽宫:风雷益          艮宫:风泽中孚(游魂)
         【本 卦】           【变 卦】
青龙       ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟辛卯木 应   ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟辛卯木  
玄武       ▅▅▅▅▅ 子孙辛巳火     ▅▅▅▅▅ 子孙辛巳火  
白虎       ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财辛未土     ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财辛未土 世
滕蛇 官鬼辛酉金 ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财庚辰土 世   ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财丁丑土  
勾陈       ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟庚寅木  ×→ ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟丁卯木  
朱雀       ▅▅▅▅▅ 父母庚子水     ▅▅▅▅▅ 子孙丁巳火 应

They are just friends (line 3/4) and do not really get along.
You appear under line 3 and do not appear in the change hexagram (line 3). You do not exist.
It is the past.
Try after September 6 2012 to reconnect and find out about the situation. The conflict (line 6) is between you and her friend (probably younger female) and not you and your female friend.

The inner truth is that there is nothing between the female. Their encounter is temporary.
Line 3 is yin line to yin line, you do not have any luck with her if you hope for intimacy. No deal.
You are not on her mind until after Sept 6. Read again at that time.

She is having fun with her friend and then they will disagree and part.

No need to read so many hexagrams to get an answer.
 

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hi !
thank you Ginnie for your answer.


Originally Posted by regardie View Post
what has happened during this stay that I found myself excluded?

15: 6 at 1 final:36
Is this first line moving in hexagram 15, usually denoted as 15.1 > 36?

Maybe there is a difference of social classes to be bridged? Just guessing, because of the reference to "behavior."

Yes, indeed, I lost my cool...she told me, that because I'm invited to her family house, I should adapt myself. She's a person with high charisma, temper like thunder, very inner centered....

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Originally Posted by regardie View Post
what do you recommend me to do next in my relationship with Catherine?

26
Your feelings are explosive. Let the pressure off slowly and carefully.

is this the only meaning of 26 in this situation. You're right, I felt like I was under an heavy fire, and that they did that deliberately to me. I don't really understand what are her feelings and intention toward me. you know I see her very infrequently, we live at 7 hours of travel from each other.

Originally Posted by regardie View Post
Do these two women have a homosexual love affair?

32: 6 in 1 final:14
The resulting hex would not be 14 unless both the first and sixth lines were moving. Anyway, assuming that the first line is moving, Yi seems to be saying that unfortunately they were jumping into a relationship rashly and without thinking. It doesn't say anything about the sexuality of the relationship, only that they were jumping into it with determination but by doing this they were only digging a hole for themselves that it would be difficult to get out of later.

You seem to have gotten caught in the cross currants of this other relationship. How unfortunate! But you know what they say: Two's company and three's a crowd. How awkward.

you're right my foster mother told me the same.

what do you mean with " but by doing this they were only digging a hole for themselves that it would be difficult to get out of later."?

Do you mean these women have a relation that won't outcome to a homosexual affair?

I asked Yi: what are her feelings to me?

43 1.3> 48

thank you!!!!
 

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Hi Long Yi,

I posted answer and meantime yours appeared.

thank you for your direct answer...you seem to possess a mastering of I ching understanding.

May I ask you in wich book did you learn that? Here in france we have nothing to emtiness in I ching book. There is no course too. May you explain how you read what gave you this answer, please?

what was the question to the second cast, please?

I'm just a beginner that need orientation!

It's quite funny you answered a question I did not aked, but had in mind: at wich time should I get in touch with her again. will ask Yi at that time to see what is best to do.

thank you for your time answering my inquiries.

reg
 

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Why should Yi reveal to you her feelings for you? You should ask your questions from your own point of view. :)

I have a question for you. Since every time you meet her, it ends badly, why don't you save yourself some trouble by not having these meetings?
 

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Hi Long Yi,
May I ask you in wich book did you learn that? Here in france we have nothing to emtiness in I ching book. There is no course too. May you explain how you read what gave you this answer, please?
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I have read many books. Most beginners just use the text of the hexagram and lines to explain things. As you start learning, you learn the relationship between trigrams, and the house of each hexagram sits.

You then learn the modern text meaning of the lines and hexagram.

Since most books are not good, I end up learning Chinese language to enrich my skills and move onto learning six lines method. From six line, I study the relationship between time of reading and hexagram to predict outcome and timing

Concerning books, you can search the word "Y ching or Iching" in your public library to find what some. Ma's Iching in Chinese is good for beginners. Lillian Too: the new Iching is OK. The lover's Iching is good. All the good literature are in Chinese and can be read on line. It is very hard to understand.

Practice makes perfect with similar mind people. Most English Iching books only teaches text analysis of the hexagram and lines. You know very little about the past, present and future.

If you want to learn,
1. Do a search online in your local library, read some books. Go shopping, check out used bookstore for Iching books. Keep your old reading, check the book's analysis to see whether it matches the truth.

2. Read some of my readings for other people. This is the place to start.


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what was the question to the second cast, please?

It's quite funny you answered a question I did not aked, but had in mind: at wich time should I get in touch with her again. will ask Yi at that time to see what is best to do.

thank you for your time answering my inquiries.
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The second reading: I check whether the two ladies are homosexual. That was the question. To be specific, I place Catherine as the person who will run that reading as the female querent when I cast the oracle.

From reading you post, I believe that you are a very nice person with a heart towards her, and probably will be a good catch for a female when you meet one. So, I take a look at your hexagram. Relationship is the easiest to analyze in astrology. Both Chinese and Western astrologists use birthday and time of birth to match the couple to see whether they can be together by destiny. Iching reading only tells one present event.

Destiny is in your own hands. Plus, if she is not the one, someone will come along. I will not be too mind occupy about the lady. Certain things you cannot push or force
 

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Hi!

thanks for your replies!
I will post what's next with this relationship in a near future!

regards
 

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