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Hi Guys,

I have not posted for a long while, partly because my life has been in turmoil for a long time and because I just couldn't think straight. I still can't....

Anyway, a few months ago a met a new man who is now proposing to move in together (well, to move in to his house with my 4 year old son)... After last relationship disaster I am petrified of making another committment and so have become increasingly more distant... Tonight I have plucked up the courage to ask "What if my son and I move in with X?" What do you make of 56.5 to 33 response? Is it me being paranoid or is it not very positive?? (well, line 5 kind of is... but not sure about the rest) Please help me you wise people....

(BTW when I first met him Hilary did a reading for me back then (about the potential for this relationship) with the resulting hexagram being 56)
 

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56 is neither good for love nor marriage. The problem with 56 is that it is a situation that is totally in flux, as in a long journey. That indicates that there is no stability in this situation and thus it is better not to indulge. Moreover, the changing gua, 33, further indicates the lack of compatibility between the parties. The moving line, yes, is favorable, but when both hexagrams are so negatively inclined towards the entire situation, then the moving line must refer to something else than moving in. Perhaps, you would do better to make a strategic retreat.
 

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So basically it's bad news when it comes to the prospect of moving in... No surprise here as for as long as I live (almost 40) I have not ever had ONE positive relationship reading. I think Im going to cast another reading for a long term potential for this relationship and see what happens but Im starting to suspect there is something seriously wrong with me as this guy is bending backwards to make me happy....
 

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56>33 really does not look positive, but line 5 does really fit your situation. Maybe it can mean that by moving in you will be able to retreat from your present situation, place and negative people...
New reading about long term outcome of the relationship will help to bring more light in the situation...
 

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I am not experienced myself and could build 3 different stories on those hexagrams and line. Please let us know how it works out!
 

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Hmmm, well yes so could I and that is the problem. Life seems to be in a state of a total turmoil for me and I am getting exhausted... Anyway, to try and clarify things a little I have cast another reading tonight: "what is the long term potential for me and X". I got hex 29.5.6 to 4... What do you guys think?
 

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Hi,

Hex. 56.5 is not at all inauspicious ... on the contrary. The line depicts a situation where a first attempt at something proved futile or resulted in little gain. The line indicates that the result of one's efforts will prove to be fruitful.

Hex. 56.5
'Shooting a pheasant.
One arrow extinguishing.
Completion uses praising fate.
Comments: Completion uses praising fate.
Reaching up to the above indeed'.

The message therein resonates with Hex 32.4 in this instance - IMO.
'The fields without wildfowl.
Comments: No lasting whatever is one's position. Peacefully acquiring wildfowl'.

The last Q has resulted in a contradictory response. I'd take the first casting (Hex. 56.5) into
consideration, in view of the fact that if you enquire about the prospects of moving in with a
partner one assumes the intent is in theory long-term. Hence the picture given by the Sage
is that of 'the situation' where the last relationship was unsuccessful and you're presently
presented with another opportunity.

Naturally you feel apprehensive and the whole issue is wearing out your emotions, causing fatigue.
Why not give it a few months ... pursue the relationship, meanwhile build up some strength and go with your gut. How does your son relate to your partner ... his reactions could provide a reliable
indication of what 'could be'. At times kids 'see' and sense what we adults are unable to perceive. Does your partner 'embrace' your son as well as you in his quest ?
Happiness could be knocking at your door ... would/could be a pity to miss this opportunity.
You could possibly enquire in a couple of weeks, along the lines of: What impact does X have in your
life/how would moving in with X be beneficial ? What impact do you have in X's life/how would X
benefit from your union under the same roof ?

Hex. 29.5 is just about a manageable situation.
Line 6 is quite dark and daunting ...
'Tied availing of stranded ropes.
Dismissing tending towards dense jujube trees.
Three year's time, not acquiring.
Pitfall.
Comments:
Six above, letting go dao. Pitfall, three year's time indeed'.

The Original I Ching Oracle (Ritsema & Sabbadini)

Do bear in mind that when the Sage gives an initial response and thereafter one enquires
again, the resulting answer may be contradictory. It's quite acceptable to enquire again if
prior to that the response was ambiguous/difficult to decipher.

All the best :)
 

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the meaning of this line from my exp is to play safe or to advance with caution.
 

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I think that we should interpret the answers literally, so 56.5>33 would mean that begining will be good but later you will find dissatisfied and retret yourself. So it would be much better that you wait and develop relationship and see later...
 

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I am in a somewhat similar situation, Veronica, so I understand your apprehension. I am about to move across the country with my 3 year old daughter to a completely new state and possibly start a new relationship with a man.

It's not easy being a single mom and if you have had tumultuous relationships in the past, it is perfectly understandable to be a bit wary of getting involved with anyone.

Frightening stuff and I have asked yi many questions regarding my situation and have gotten some really positive readings and some really stark ones too.
Drove me batty trying to figure out what the oracle was telling me.

That said, something that I have noticed recently with my own readings is that the responses can reflect your inner state rather than the actual situation. Or, it can offer advice on how to deal with your inner state rather than a clear image of what is going on. The trick is to look at the answers and reflect on them to see how they do correspond.

Maybe asking a few questions about what is causing you to feel wary of this situation will help. Certainly couldn't hurt.

56.3>33 is not really a bad reading. It basically indicates successfully accomplishing something and finding support through that.

56 is about a traveler so of course it doesn't promise permanence or indicate anything long-term. However, look at it from a different perspective. You're entering new territory...a stranger in a strange land. You don't feel quite at ease and are not sure exactly what to do. That is one facet of the 56 hexagram.
A traveler is not quite at home in his surroundings and therefore feels he must proceed with caution. Reckless behavior is not something one wants to engage in when they are attempting to steer clear of dangerous entanglements.

33 retreat is not necessarily about total abandonment. It is a strategic backing off in order to gain strength to come back and deal with the situation. Like taking a break or stepping away from the issue to prepare yourself or get a few problems settled, whether internally or externally.

Perhaps this is how you feel about the situation? You do not feel like you are at ease with settling down in this new situation and want to back away just in case things go wrong and the 56>33 is reflecting that?

Anyway, hope I helped you a bit.

I wish you well
 

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Many thanks Guys for some amazing responses, never fails to amaze me how incredibly helpful and supportive you Guys are. Chucklesthegirl, thank you so much for your message, very intuitive, it was like reading my own mind... Ive always found that a continuous engagement with the Yi is much more helpful than the ad hoc request for a reading... so I will definitely be asking more questions...

I will let you know how the story unfolds....

BXXX
 

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I also do not see 56.4 as inauspicious...it is a very welcoming line and tells of being accepted into a satisfying situation. In a way, it could be a retreat, a place to rest up and feel taken care of. That appears to be offered to you here. in my experience 56.4 was a beneficial situation. Being at the end of the hex, it could signify the ending of your wandering.

i didn't think the next reading was so positive, but since the future hasnt come in to play here, maybe it reflects your fears..of getting trapped again.

my only thought, aside from readings, is the major step of moving a small child into a new situation. not ideal, if it is already seen as possibly Impermanent. the relationship sounds like a good one...but maybe i would try to understand the man better...is he an impermanent sort, non-committal? moving in together seems like a BIG transition after only a few months..is it worth the risk of possibly having to uproot your son again if the relationship fails? these would be the practical questions I would ask yourself. The 56.5 to 33, in that light, could mean a nice offer, his motives are good, but maybe step back and think it through.
 

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