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aaanddd...

🎆Here we are! 🎆

I can see a minor niggle or two (if you click 'login' in the top right-hand corner of a forum page, do you get a login form on this page, or do you get sent to a separate login page and back again?) but it seems to be working.

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Hm, it turns out the video embedding hasn't migrated, so posts with videos need editing. Never mind.

About this one...

Here's a video about the new features just for Clarity's supporters:

For the next couple of months, all members get access to the 'Supporter' features. After that, I will be politely inviting non-customers to join WikiWing or Change Circle if they'd like to retain access to bookmarking, multi-participant conversations and user mentions.
 

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aaanddd...

🎆Here we are! 🎆

I can see a minor niggle or two (if you click 'login' in the top right-hand corner of a forum page, do you get a login form on this page, or do you get sent to a separate login page and back again?) but it seems to be working.
:applause: thanks Hilary for all your hard work, the new forum looks great!

had minor issues with the login, indeed, at first on firefox couldn't enter my credentials, clicking on log in took me back to forums page. problem is i thought i actually forgot my password... tried again on chrome and i could at least try to log in but again was taken back to the forums without actually logging in. weird thing was, when tried to reset my password i was taken to my userpage which also has history of my payments etc. as if i was logged in - but when navigating from there to forums i was logged out again... so got a little worried, but after all it seemed related to the login bug (that appears fixed now) and nothing actually serious, i think? lastly i tried opera and could finally access the reset password page and it worked. after that all browsers allowed me to log back in and things seem to be working pretty smoothly!
 

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btw, only saw the mail, so what worked for me was using opera - resetting the password through link from the mail and then logging back in worked also on other browsers (i wasn't sure if it was the password change that helped or did the bug get resolved in the meantime, i think for good measure i also cleared my cache before trying again with the new password). i use mostly firefox. i still wonder though how come i was shown my userpage in chrome when trying to change the password, yet appeared logged out when going to shared readings? hope all goes well and any issues will get easily fixed!
 

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Thanks, @legume! I think probably it was the password change that helped - or just that you edited your account, since I just heard from someone who just edited his surname on his account page and that did the job. I think this clear enough that I can safely email people about it now.
 

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Refurbishing? Remodelling?

The I Ching Community will be migrating, fairly soon, to some new forum software. I don’t want to say, ‘We’re moving,’ because at the end of the process the forums will still be accessible at the same address as before. But they’ll look somewhat different and work somewhat differently, so there’ll be a bit of a learning curve for us all.

Why change?

Three reasons: bugs, future-proofing, and just making them better.

The bugs

If you’ve spent any time round the I Ching Community, you’ve probably met these. Posts in one big text block because the software ran all the paragraphs together, posts that can’t be edited, and also occasional database error messages. Oh, and no Chinese characters, because when I followed tech support’s instructions to enable those, a whole swathe of other features promptly died.
There are workarounds for the paragraph and editing bugs (switch to the standard editor, open the ‘edit’ link in a new tab), and members put up with this with remarkably good grace, but it would be nice not to have to, wouldn’t it?
(Incidentally, those workarounds were discovered by kind members, experimenting industriously in search of a fix. The tech support people are just not that interested.)

Future-proofing

Our current software is no longer being updated. This wouldn’t be a problem, except that everything else about the internet is constantly being updated. Sooner or later, some other part of Clarity is going to require some of those updates, and the forum won’t allow them, and we’ll be stuck.
Besides, most online conversations nowadays work faster and more smoothly. Like I said, Clarity’s members have been altogether lovely at putting up with occasional clunkiness, but increasingly people’s expectations are set by social media companies with multi-squillion development budgets. We can’t exactly catch up with them (slight shortage of squillions here), but we could do better for ourselves.
We need to move to something that’s being updated, and vBulletin 5 (we’re currently on vBulletin 4) is almost-universally regarded as rubbish. (Also, I’m quite tired of profoundly uninterested tech support people.) So… I’ve decided to switch to XenForo. It may be more of a change to get used to at first, but it’ll be worth it.

Better forums

The more I see of XenForo, the more it just looks better than vBulletin. It’s more user-friendly when it comes to finding what you’re interested in, getting updates and keeping track, quick and easy self-expression and so on. I keep finding thoughtful touches in unexpected places. (For instance, how about getting notified when someone quotes a post of yours?) It’ll be a more hospitable environment all round – I’ll share some screenshots and videos over the coming week or two to show you what I mean.

What happens next?

Basically, you just use the old forums as usual, while I chase my tail in circles and spend silly amounts of money to get it all set up. On Migration Day, the forums will be closed for a time, and after that it’ll take a little while to get hexagram search and WikiWing integrated with the new system.
For now… er, watch this space? I’ll keep you posted, show you how some of the shiny new features work, and let you know as soon as I have a date for Migration Day.
OK! Nice changes!
Reset my password like you suggested, and for the cauldron fire logs on!
 

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Hi! It was/is a hard work, but the changes worth it. Thank you for your upgrading the forum. Here, everything is ok (login etc...)! Moderner than the previous version! And even, a message from youtube. You excel at communication, I should take some examples from you. I like listening to your voice, it's filled with ....clarity ;) Thank you:applause:
 

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