Clarity,
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The present is embodied in Hexagram 3 - Chun (Difficulty at the Beginning): There will be great progress and success, and the advantage will come from being correct and firm. Any movement in advance should not be undertaken lightly. There will be advantage in appointing feudal princes or other delegates in your stead.
The fourth line, divided, shows its subject as a lady. The horses of her chariot appear in retreat. She seeks, however, the help of him who seeks her to be his wife. Advance will be fortunate, and all will turn out advantageously.
The situation is evolving slowly, and Yang (the active masculine force) is gaining ground.
The future is embodied in Hexagram 17 - Sui (Following): There will be great progress and success, but one must be firm and correct. There will then be no error.
I have thought of that, but it doesn't square. It is she, and not myself or anyone else, who is the aggressor and very destructive to others. If she went about her own business in good faith and hurting no one , THEN resentment or malevolence would perhaps rightly be seen as my motive for wanting her troubles to resurface-------, but as she antagonizes and will not leave others alone - and everyone says this about her - the malevolence is on her side.Maybe the Yijing sees it as resentment or malevolence on your part, rather than karma on her's.
So in this view, she would "pay", for want of a better word, for her destructiveness toward others, and her hypocrisy, either in an after life, or in another incarnation? I think Karma should happen more quickly, and how do we know the stretching out in time isn't just a rationalization, as we see no justice here? thanks though for your input!Karma to me is a belief that there is a long distance cause and effect present, something stretched out beyond a lifetime. One would really only have to understand the importance of the smallest action, and see the ripples it causes, to grasp this microcosmically. Yet we don't know how exacty things work beyond death.
Thanks for this. I do hope that I can put this behind me, as I am not a person who like conflict, drama, or agitation. How were you able to finally deal with your mother and sister, and with the women at work? I suppose you mean planting your own garden and not caring about what theirs is.....if only such people would just stick to themselves, and I do think maybe a counselor should set written boundaries that must be adhered to. thanks again!dear foxx777 hexagram 3 line 4 is definitely saying let this go.
i also see 3 as beginning something with help from someone
able. I would take this to mean going to a counsellor asking
to put this down.
17 may even be following the advices of this person -
for years I felt my mother favoured my sister and they
ganged up on me - i cannot tell you have many older women
i have had bullying me in work etc in my life.
once we see the roots its good to dig em out and plant your
own beautiful life garden
Yes, I think I understand what you are saying. It is just that when one is being affected in the here and now, you want to take action---I suppose this is why there are legal courts and actions taken. If someone robs and rapes you now, you want to phone the police and report it, and not wait for it to affect their growth centuries down the line. I suppose it is a matter of taking a less worldly view. I am trying, I really am trying.....thanksThere are so many complexities to life, I do not have a firm belief of what happens. What I was saying is that it is simple to see that things are affected by looking at the small moments and how they cause ripples into the horizon. But we can only see so far. myopia is for a reason as to not overwhelm us. Things have limits and measures like 60. We can only see so much at a time. The reason for wanting 'karma' or for her to 'pay' more quickly is for your own satisfaction, not the growth of her 'spirit'.
Wise words, will heed them.You cannot affect someone's 'karma' or what the universe is becoming for someone. And so the story goes, you can only do what you can do and in my findings you can do very little that is satisfying as far as affecting other people. What turns out to be satisfying is changing things within yourself.. Like say, letting go of the hatred for the rapist.
The present is embodied in Hexagram 19 - Lin (Approach): There will be great progress and success, while it will be advantageous to be firmly correct. In the eighth month there will be evil.
The first (bottommost) line, undivided, shows its subject advancing in company with the subject of the second line. Through his firm correctness there will be good fortune.
The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force) is gaining ground.
The future is embodied in Hexagram 7 - Shih (The Army): With firmness and correctness, and a leader of age and experience, there will be good fortune and no error.
Yes, this was MY therapist, and she honed in. I think the therapist should not have allowed it. two people have told me it is unethical. ha, i will try to feel honoredHaha, she talks about YOUR affairs on HER therapist time?
She must be loaded...just make sure you see the same person a few times alone, as
he/she must have all figured out for you and may give you an discount.
Sometimes only thing one can do is use some humor...my friend says he is kinda honored when people discuss his affairs, makes him feel interesting
I will take this well under advisement.19 progress will be made - get your own counsellor - and organise
your own army (support system) 7:bows:
Yes, this was MY therapist, and she honed in. I think the therapist should not have allowed it. two people have told me it is unethical. ha, i will try to feel honored
Thank you: As you are all saying basically the same thing, it must be true. I will take heed. I may not be able to make big changes, but I will make the ones within my power to make.The thing is - I can relate. And I was told to try gain my own life, concentrate on my own happiness, others are doing that already and are way ahead.
So fix yourself first and the energy will change for your benefit and for hers as well.
Good point , Megan, well taken...:bows:Hmm, well obviously she's unhappy, the karma is on a deeper level perhaps for her.
She will with time only isolate herself from her own family.
There is no need to wonder when karma will work because it is already at work with her nastiness.
The resentment and dislike shes creating is that.
Wow, that line from Job has been something I have been fixated on for years. I even wrote a poem in 2005, entitled, "The Thing that I Feared Has Come Upon Me", and I have often told people I am being "tested like Job". I cannot believe you have strangely intuited this, in some way.I've come to automatically cringe when karma is given as a reason for why things happen as they happen, especially when used indiscriminately. Like the word "spiritual" is most often used, as though it operates on it's own with no connections to psychological or emotional cause and affect. If karma does operate, the scale can easily outsize our field of awareness, so there's no way anyone or even a group can accurately judge when the hand of karma is moving, or whether it's just another happenstance along the river of life.
What I do believe happens is that we can condition ourselves to draw to us that which we expect. Sometimes what we expect is what we fear most. When Job lost his family and possessions in a single day he proclaimed "That which I have feared most has come upon me!" I once spoke with a man at the church, who was losing his sight; a leader and teacher. Now what would his message be? He told me, "that which I have feared most has come upon me." He wasn't aware of the Job passage he spoke.
And so we can call this karma.
Wow, thank you for that. She is actually 54, but her development or luck did take a turn at 38. I think the method you use is marvelous. I am in fact in the process of setting some boundaries, legally and otherwise, as you mention above. thank you so, so much---I always LOVE your input!You want to know the karma of your sister. Your reading must be processed into a lifetime hexagram.
六神 伏神 坎宫:水雷屯 震宫:泽雷随(归魂)
【本 卦】 【变 卦】
青龙 ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟戊子水 ▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼丁未土 应
玄武 ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼戊戌土 应 ▅▅▅▅▅ 父母丁酉金
白虎 ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母戊申金 ×→ ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟丁亥水
滕蛇 妻财戊午火 ▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼庚辰土 ▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼庚辰土 世
勾陈 ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙庚寅木 世 ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙庚寅木
朱雀 ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟庚子水 ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟庚子水
Calculation:
Hexagram 3
line 2 子孙庚寅木 世 host line is wood (3);
line 5 官鬼戊戌土 应 guest line is earth (5)
3 + 5 = 8
luck cycle starts at 8 years old
Hexagram 3: 世為阳爻 host line is a yang line (line 2),順行 (clockwise count)
line 2: age 8-12
line 3: age 13-17
line 4: age 18-22
line 5: age 23-27
line 6: age 28-32
line 1: age 33-37
Hexagram 17: 世為阳爻 host line is a yang line (line 3), 順行(clockwise count)
line 3: age 38-42
line 4: age 43-47
line 5: age 48-52
line 6: age 53-57
line 1: age 58-62
line 2: age 63-67
This layout tells you her luck and behavior every 5 years. Current situation depends on her age.
For you, if you apply restrictions for everyone to comply, then everyone follows the same rule. Problem is at least solved.
For your sister, you will not get into trouble with the law. She is a lucky person, but a bit slow in dealing with anything. She will be better after 38 years old.
Her luck in each 5 year cycle depends on her interaction with the year's Chinese 8 letter pillar.
If she is 28-32, you may not be happy in many things she does. Before 37, she starts off very slow in behaving herself as a mature person (at odds with parents, need a lot of help from siblings).
Wow, that line from Job has been something I have been fixated on for years. I even wrote a poem in 2005, entitled, "The Thing that I Feared Has Come Upon Me", and I have often told people I am being "tested like Job". I cannot believe you have strangely intuited this, in some way.
Yes, uncanny: She has spent lavishly on her daughters and now is money mad trying to think of a way to make up for such extravagance. I have been willing to compromise but she cannot. thanks for that input!In hexagram 17, line 1 (58-62 age) is a yang line. Line 4 is also a yang line. These are the brother and sister lines. No wonder you cannot agree with each other. In addition, she has issue with money. Do not know how to make a lot and need to spend. She may also be spending money on younger people (do not know whether is the next generation or someone else). Since both sister line 1 & 4 are water, you two mix, but you are at odds because you and your sister cannot compromise. Iching teaches compliance to a system. I will teach "align and engage" towards common objectives.
Yes, it is just difficult at times to believe that gross injustice and suffering could in any way be positive. Job's day in court always bothered me......something amiss there, because the vastness of God and the universe do not really justify gross suffering."spooky action at a distance"
The Story is part of every "hero's journey". The inner hero must be tested. Job's trip was tough cuz he had judgment coming at him from every direction. Even his own wife told him "curse God and die!" His so-called best friends blamed his secret sins, with no evidence but their own displaced self-condemnation.
And rather than lighten up on him, God gives Satan the new freedom to strike him in his flesh, but not to kill him.
Fortunately, Job finally gets his day in court, standing before the Gong (6.5), and God mocks him by asking questions like, did you hang the stars in the sky, Job? Did you make the Leviathan, did you catch him? That reminds me when the huge wave of Poseidon told the drowning Odysseus that he must suffer more to learn that he is a man, nothing more, nothing less, and that man is nothing without the gods.
We don't usually think of good karma coming within a difficult challenge.
Yes, it is just difficult at times to believe that gross injustice and suffering could in any way be positive. Job's day in court always bothered me......something amiss there, because the vastness of God and the universe do not really justify gross suffering.
Clarity,
Office 17622,
PO Box 6945,
London.
W1A 6US
United Kingdom
Phone/ Voicemail:
+44 (0)20 3287 3053 (UK)
+1 (561) 459-4758 (US).