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The lines of the hexagrams, being either yin or yang, can be looked at as having female or male qualities. Also, the trigrams, since they are assigned different members of the family, can also be looked at as male or female.
Like yin and yang, gender for the six line places was not an original idea, but came along many centuries after the Zhouyi. It does appear, though, that the Bagua had family genders early on. Although some subscribe to the idea that the Bagua came later, I think that idea is just another academic fad.
With the gender association, sometimes I feel it is appropriate to apply to the reading. But often times not. Sometimes I will find a yang line is pointing to a strong female. Or I will not even think about gender at all. For my mind, I just needed to know how close to the Oracle Bones gender association was. So thanks very much for the response.
Are you saying that during the time of the OB, they did not take note of gender as specifically being a part of each and every aspect of a reading, yet it could possible come up here and there, despite them realizing a separation of energies, male and female, that wasn't a topic that occured at every reading, but perhaps some randomly?Dualistic thought has been part of the human psyche pretty much forever. They can even be found in ancient cave paintings and the depiction of the hunter/prey duo, for example. It doesn't mean that complex philosophies were elaborated based on them at such an early age but they were noticed, nevertheless.
Therein lies the beauty.The good news is that they (trigrams, specially) do lend themselves as perfect skeletons to be fleshed out with all kinds of dualistic associations, of which gender is but one of them.
What is OBI? Oracle Bone Interpretation?
I did not know that anything was associated with a "depiction of a typical bone crack." or "interpretation of the direction of the cracks formed on the scapulae/plastrons after high heat was applied to them". This is wonderful and curious news to me. I have up to this point only associated OB with, what was written on oracle bones, not the structure of the bones themselves and the cracks. Do you have a source I could research to make this information clearer to me?
Are you saying that during the time of the OB, they did not take note of gender as specifically being a part of each and every aspect of a reading, yet it could possible come up here and there, despite them realizing a separation of energies, male and female, that wasn't a topic that occured at every reading, but perhaps some randomly?
Bradford said:Our tendency to oversimplify things in archaeology and anthropology, like our black--and-white fallacies, has people jumping to conclusions way too much. In Yixue, while there is plenty of indication that the authors perceived the bagua within the gua and had at least rudimentary associations for them, this doesn't mean they emerged fully fleshed out. With regard to the sexes, cases can be made for sexual identity in some gua, the Mare in Gua 02, for instance, or Dui as little sister in a couple of Hexagrams, this doesn't mean they were anywhere near as fully developed as we know them today. The Zhouyi plays a lot with opposites, decrease and increase, for instance. But this doesn't mean it is based on some early concept of Yin and Yang. And they certainly didn't get into dividing the whole world into two camps, where male = rigid = good = light and female is all the opposite of that.
The cracking of bones for divination was mainly directed to the ancestors of the consultants. It was a highly ritualized practice and part of the religious beliefs of the Shang people. The consultations were very practical and related mostly to important but mundane and quotidian affairs (weather, harvests, hunting, royal issues, etc). Those quotidian affairs did not include the "matters of the heart" so prevalent today. Furthermore, if we go by what's recorded in the OBI, it appears that human gender was not an issue of consideration or important in the interpretation of readings.
… said the last Wing was ‘the most profound of all the commentaries included in Yijing’
Rutt, page 453.
Sex (LOVE) is maybe the first paradigm of dialectic oppositions: a well know model, deep rooted in experience, to which any other true or apparent opposition can be related for getting «logical» consequences.
That’s why many oppositions are often seen as «marriage».
Hi, Courtney:
Sex (LOVE) is maybe the first paradigm of dialectic oppositions:
Charly
Like it!Light and dark constantly copulating and simultaneously separating. Always dancing.
H.14
彖曰‧泰‧The little come and the great gone in Tài, and its indication that there will be good fortune with progress and success' show to us heaven and earth in communication with each other, and all things in consequence having free course, and (also) the high and the low, (superiors and inferiors), in communication with one another, and possessed by the same aim. The inner (trigram) is made up of the strong and undivided lines, and the outer of the weak and divided; the inner is (the symbol of) strength, and the outer of docility; the inner (represents) the superior man, and the outer the small man. (Thus) the way of the superior man appears increasing, and that of the small man decreasing.
小往大來吉亨‧
則是天地交而萬物通也‧
上下交而其志同也‧
內陽而外陰‧
內健而外順‧
內君子而外小人‧
君子道長‧小人道消也‧
[LEGGE]
SOURCE: http://www.yellowbridge.com/onlinelit/yijing11.php
Hi, Brad:Is maybe not. That would be darkness and light. Or maybe at the same time that happened there was:
Squeezed so tight my head changes shape vs. I'm outta here.
o sha li - yu so yong, so wei tu yong. yu wei tu fu ni tu.
What does this translate to? I tried to translate online and it just isn't working out. Anyone want to curb my curiousity?
Hi, Courtney:What does this translate to? I tried to translate online and it just isn't working out. Anyone want to curb my curiousity?
Hi, Brad:...
Payback for once saying I was too old.
o sha li - yu so yong, so wei tu yong. yu wei tu fu ni tu.
Hi, Courtney:
I believe that´s ony a joke. Maybe Brad thinks that interest in love affairs is proper of people lacking of maturity, say, young hearted people. But I´m trying to be serious and mature.
I don´t know if I get it. Sometimes I distrust of my own intentions.
Maybe Brad can put the sequence in chinese characters.
All the best,
Charly
What´s a NITCH, Courtney?You have a nitch Charly
... in the Progress Theater on May 15, 1897, .. in a memorable encounter between the minstrels Gabino Ezeiza and Pablo Vazquez, someone in the audience ... proposed the theme of "metempsychosis".
Gabino, upon receiving the order, made a long prelude on his guitar, as if trying to guess what "hell" the word meant.
... and said:
Al que me mete en psicosis...
Al que me mete en psicosis
le digo en estilo vario...
por qué al mandarme el temita
no me mandó el diccionario.
Source: http://mosaicosportenos.blogspot.com/2011/05/acerca-de-la-metempsicosis-y-gabino.html
Translation with the help of Google:
To whom gets me into psychosis ...
To whom gets me into psychosis,
I say him is various style,
why when he sent me the theme
he didn´t send me the dictionary.
... horrible, but, I hope, understandable.
What´s a NITCH, Courtney?
Yours,
Charly
Hi, Courtney:
I believe that´s ony a joke. Maybe Brad thinks that interest in love affairs is proper of people lacking of maturity, say, young hearted people. But I´m trying to be serious and mature.
I don´t know if I get it. Sometimes I distrust of my own intentions.
Maybe Brad can put the sequence in chinese characters.
All the best,
Charly
Oh!There are a few different meanings to the word 'nitch', but here is the one I was thinking of:
'Sending you the dictionary' from http://www.thefreedictionary.com/niche:
Niche: A situation or activity specially suited to a person's
interests, abilities, or nature.
Example: found her niche in life.
Sending my personal intent: to highlight that you seem to have a positive interest in the subject of love and sex and things of that nature.
As for the underlined.... I do not know....
Take care,
AQ
(Continuation)交 jiao1 is the character that Legge euphemistically translated «in communication with each other». It means plainly SEXUAL INTERCOURSE / TO F_CK.
交 jiao1 appears later in the quote HIGH (AND) LOW (ARE) MARRIED AND ITS AIMS (ARE THE) SAME.
... (To be continued)
14.1:
In the first NINE, undivided, there is no approach to what is injurious, and there is no error. Let there be a realisation of the difficulty (and danger of the position), and there will be no error (to the end).
LEGGE
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