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Here is another one that pocossin gave me: "45.5 It will be a long uphill climb. 45.6 The dramatic. Maybe a set designer. You are apparently at a creative high now. Sustaining it won't be easy. Nevertheless, some do and bring light into the darkness."
I would like to be able to get the metaphor or what I am reading as well as see the line as what pocossin does here.
What I see with 45.6 "Lamenting and sighing, floods of tears.
No blame. "
Is OH CRAP!!! This is not a good way to go.
Thanks.Becoming familiar with the eight trigrams is what I first recommend, because the nature of a trigram is itself a metaphor. Put any two trigrams together and the elemental metaphors become a dynamic, switch the top and bottom trigrams and the dynamic changes with their change in relativity to one another.
For me, trigrams have always been the key to unlock a hexagram.
I am not sure I understand what you mean by the 'actual hexagram' are you referring to the lines themselves (the six line gua) or the images that are used to describe the text?To see what I see you will need to look at the actual hexagram rather than the derivative, appended text. Experience shows that for most people this is impossible. I think that the appended text is a brilliant interpretation of visual features of the hexagram, but it is only one possible interpretation. I expect to find underlying visual features in every case and look for them.
I think I understand... Nope I don't.Your reaction would be the opposite if you viewed the text in its visual context.
Hatcher on 45.6
Offering counsel while weeping and sniveling
But no harm is done
The ancient Chinese repaired to their ancestral temple to receive counsel from ancestral spirits, a suggestion that you should focus on inborn talents. Weeping and sniveling refer to mourning for the dead, a mark of sincerity. The idea of weeping and sniveling obviously (to me) derives from Dui, the upper trigram of the hexagram.
Right now, in fact, I am wondering how you got 'ancestral temple'?
From the Judgment: The sovereign approaches his temple.
From the Image:
The noble young one, accordingly,
puts aside weapons and instruments
Guarding against unreadiness
The temple (so I understand) was also an arsenal -- as were Greek temples. But if you look at the hexagram of broken and unbroken lines, with a little patience you will see a temple gate (torii), and that is why the appended text is about a temple.
I read just what it says. I am having a hard time getting past the actual words and getting to the metaphor.
How do you all get past this and get to the heart of what is being said?
Thanks
Thank you bradford,In my Volume One the commentary I added isn't intended to serve in any predictive capacity, but instead to climb into the metaphor and walk around in it, to see some of the places it goes, and get the understanding in that roundabout way instead of pedantically explaining "this means ...".
Also the booklet I just wrote (free download also) on Hexagram Names attempts to get beyond the trap of the Hexagram Names and into the gestalt of the idea, which forms the key to interpreting the lines.
I would submit that these are the two biggest mistakes people make in understanding the texts:
1) They get stuck on a particular English translation of a Hexagram name (which is often an inferior or misleading one, even in the Wilhelm). In doing so they fail to see the broader meaning, which is a gestalt that really takes a bunch of words to get the idea properly surrounded.
2) They fail to carry the meaning of the overall Hexagram into their reading of the individual lines. Each of the lines is an expression or facet of the overall Hexagram meaning, with a dash of the "flavor" of the Hexagram that the line is moving towards. But people try to read the text as if it stands alone and take the meaning out of context.
I am noticing, at least at this point, the vaguer (is that a word?) my question to the Yi the more confused I am about what I am reading. I hope that passes- I would like to be able to see things from a more holistic perspective.
I am having a serious moment.But it needs to work like that. If you divide infinity by sixty-four you still get infinity. Being specific with the question is how we narrow down these huge ranges of possible meanings that each of the Yi texts has.
Kim,
I think you feel too much pressure to trust yourself enough to naturally find guidance in your answers. Need to relax, and accept that mistakes are a natural part of learning anything. Think of it as something nourishing to chew on, rather than something you have to get perfectly right, right now! Remember that IC is an oracle, and that an oracle sometimes speaks of coming things. There is only rarely perfectly right, because most things are not perfectly right or wrong.
I like your avatar.
Clarity,
Office 17622,
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London.
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+44 (0)20 3287 3053 (UK)
+1 (561) 459-4758 (US).