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My question was, what will be the 3 most important 'events' on the planet in 2017?

I was thinking in terms of what will be most prevalent, will be most talked about, will have a lot of repercussions globally, you get the gist.

'Event' 1: 7.1 > 19
The army sets forth according to law/discipline. To deny good (law/discipline) is ominous.
The beginning of a new war, which will be a lot of hard work and in danger of failure (19).
There are two possible new wars looming at the moment, the US against China, and the US against Russia.
So my guess is that it's going to be one of those two (I so hope I'm wrong though).

'Event' 2: 51.1.6 > 35
A shock concludes quickly from a to z, people are shocked but not for long.
Clarity very soon settles in, and quick action solves the issue.
Given the nature of "shock", it's impossible for me to say what this could be.
Being a "shock", it will be something nobody will see coming. Luckily it will resolve quickly.

'Event' 3: 20.1 > 42
Childlike observation.
No blame if this is done by a 'small person'. But humiliation if it's done by a superior man/ruler.
Resulting in 42, enriching: the one above enriches the one below.
A naive ruler (Trump?) will be forced to abandon his/her own ideas?

I'd welcome any thoughts on these, especially from anyone talented in defining where in the world these three scenarios will play out. All cast around 22:00 on 22 Jan 2017.
 

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I wonder if 7.1-19 is about securing the hitherto porous US border? There will be problems for those not willing to respect them.
Personally I doubt a direct war with US and Russia or China. None of those leaders want that.
 

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7.1 A defeat of some sort do to disorganization and misreading of the public will.
{Perhaps we've seen a sample of this with the humiliating lack of turn out for the inauguration}

51.1.6 - 35. A scandal caused by shocking revelations, maybe causing everyone to do some soul searching. Lots of hidden things coming out in the open but it could ultimately lead to good.
(Maybe the harm done by global warming?)

20.1 - 42. Children attracting attention? Something with education? Planned Parenthood?
 

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I also doubt 2017 would bring us a direct war between US and Russia :rofl: :D :p


[video=youtube;LNK430YOiT4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNK430YOiT4[/video]
 
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According to this comedy clip, Putin now runs the US, hence there will be no war. Great!
I hear he also runs the UK, so we're safe here too. Woe upon Antarctica though... he has unleashed a killer giant squid over there, so who knows whatever next.
 

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And if SNL is telling the truth about the situation then the US will stop GMO food and i didn't realize Russia's tentacles reached over to the UK too, but they will too. Oh poor China they're gonnna embrace it.
 

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"20.1 - 42. Children attracting attention? Something with education? Planned Parenthood?" From Rosada

That's interesting, this could mean pedophilia rings, child trafficking rings being exposed.
Check out Laura silsbey.
 

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"20.1 - 42. Children attracting attention? Something with education? Planned Parenthood?" From Rosada

That's interesting, this could mean pedophilia rings, child trafficking rings being exposed.
Check out Laura silsbey.

What are your thoughts on pizzagate Grandma? Can't wait to hear.
or maybe you are referring to the historical abuse by clergy, since those were Baptist missionaries in Haiti.
 

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Pizza gate- very disturbing.
Some of the conjecture is a little far fetched, for instance the one email when the sender says to podesta about the diff rent size packages seems similar to me how a wealthy prep school type person would write, but at the end of it when he mentions dominoes on cheese or something else, I thought that was strange. Other parts of it are very disturbing, I just mean some of the "evidence" might be innocent, but otoh it's like don corleone talking about meatballs and it's just about meatballs.
I think there is something to it, though.

I was referring to the world wide shadow government/official government run networks, which would also include participation by various multiple organized religious affiliations.
 

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20.1-42
This could be a warning about msm propagandizing the population ( this includes much of the western world) and acting as an arm of the state. Adults should not take msm at face value.

In general I find it interesting that 3 questions about worldwide most talked about/important/significant stories of 2017 and 2 only have line one as changeing line and the third has line one and another changing line. So all three readInge have line one.
 

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Didn't realize diamanda was from UK, so even though she asked about worldwide events it could also skew her answers to something closer to her.
51.1.6-35
More countries vote to either leave or elect heads of state that wish to leave the EU
 
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In general I find it interesting that 3 questions about worldwide most talked about/important/significant stories of 2017 and 2 only have line one as changeing line and the third has line one and another changing line. So all three readInge have line one.
Interesting indeed. It probably means, when only the 1st is changing, that those situations are very new - still just at the start and their development not clear yet. Or, it could also mean that this (2017) is just the beginning and they will both go on for quite a while.

Didn't realize diamanda was from UK, so even though she asked about worldwide events it could also skew her answers to something closer to her.
51.1.6-35
More countries vote to either leave or elect heads of state that wish to leave the EU
I had the same thought Granma. I was actually thinking of France, where the spring elections race has already begun; it will be yet another thriller for sure.
 

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I was thinking France also
Actually also Germany, but I can't gauge the opposition to Merkel. She might do a gigantic pivot and win reelection. Very early yet for them.
 
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I wonder if 7.1-19 is about securing the hitherto porous US border?.

Probably not as porous as Europe's, where criminals get through with fake passports and even with weapons. It's called "the EU" !

Interestingly enough, I did a cast this week for Trump's administration (specifically about what will represent for Americans) and got hex 7.2.6 >> 23 so I don't think that 7.1 applies to him.
 

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Although you were intending your readings to refer to three separate incidences I see how these responses could also be a comment on the whole flow for the year:

7.1 Lack of understanding leads to
51.1 Surprise because
20.1 We don't have enough experience at this time to recognize what actual events these hexagrams might be pointing to.

So fasten your seat belts, Folks, it's going to be a bumpy ride!
 

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I'm really intrigued by the possibilities in your reading, Diamanda!

It occurs to me that hexagram 7 follows 6.5 & 6.6, the lines about how even if a decision is found to be in one's favor (6.5), if the loser doesn't agree then the decision will be meaningless and it will be snatched away (6.6). That sounds very much like what is going on in America with the election. The electoral college pronounced Trump the winner but the opposition doesn't agree with their decision and now all sorts of protests are being mounted to snatch the prize from him. After 6/6 comes 7 The Army which talks about the need for a strong leader who stands with the people. 7.1 is the first line and suggests at this point there is no such leader. So doesn't this sound like the Trump story? We now have all these people saying he's not my president but it is not clear then who is the leader? 7.1 changes to 19 which says in the eighth month there will be trouble. Could this be pointing to a major rebellion in August, the eighth month and 8 months from now? This year the planet Saturn, the harsh reality planet, is in Sagittarius, the sign ruling Truth. It is moving ahead now but it will turn retrograde and this summer Saturn will be back at this point where it is this month, suggesting that things don't move ahead until the record is set straight and true. Could this mean the lies and alternative facts we're being fed now will be brought up again then to be reviewed? Maybe Trump's tax records coming out? Maybe this is when a true leader will finally emerge?

The second set of hexagrams suggest some shocking incident, 51.1, and then maybe with 51.6 we realize that what ever it is, who ever the victims are, blacks, Muslims, the poor, gays or females, the same fate could befall us. 35 then could be emphasizing the importance of the news media to bring all these shocking events before the public eye.

But alas, even if the truth is out there for all to see will we be able to understand it?
20.1 Suggests something happening that we can't understand the significance of. Like the true harm caused by unscrupulous political figures? Or events causing damage to the environment like Fukushima where people refuse to recognize the true extent of the harm done ?

Hmm..realized I've focused on all negative interpretations here. Maybe someone else can see the rainbow!
 
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Although you were intending your readings to refer to three separate incidences I see how these responses could also be a comment on the whole flow for the year
Rosada I'm not sure that all three answers should be applied to US affairs (Trump, racism, etc). I was visualising the globe when asking. Then again, it could be said that the US are involved around the world, and of course it's a majorly influential country, so who knows. The possible rainbows I can see:
7.1 > 19 the defeat could potentially be rectified (or averted?) with a lot of hard work and supervision.
51.1.6 > 35 the shock won't last long and at least there will be clarity about it.
20.1 > 42 someone higher (42) could potentially enlighten/enrich whoever is naive/immature.

Interestingly enough, I did a cast this week for Trump's administration (specifically about what will represent for Americans) and got hex 7.2.6 >> 23 so I don't think that 7.1 applies to him.
Our questions are a bit different though Mirian. You specifically asked about Trump's domestic moves/administration. My question was not specific to the US, and what I had in mind was incidents that would be felt worldwide (e.g. in the way bird flu was, some years back). So I'm not sure at this point if our readings both point at Trump, and even if they do, I'm not sure if one excludes the other.
 

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Yes, the question was about global events - maybe 20.1 is a comment that it's very hard for us to comprehend the entire global view!
 

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looking at the order diamanda listed the events, if that coincides with the order she asked the questions

7.1-19
this would be the first event, that we start hearing alot about, about
i think this is Merkels reelction. I think she will win, but she is going to pivot:alot. she is going to back away from the migration/border issue. Merkel is in it for herself, she's making a political decision here.
because she isn't acting from the highest part of her being she is going to make a misstep.
here's a recent headline: 'Germany: Muslim translators deliberately misinterpreting Christians to get them deported"
german election is in sept thats near the 8th month, some people call it the eight month because of the chinese new year is in late january.
i see a reelection for merkel but her party is weakened and she's gonna pivot from the migrant issue to get votes. probably she'll have a meeting with trump or the incoming secretary of state in the US before france's election so she'll be in the news more than usual, probably she'll meet trump though because that would get so much more press.

next is 50.1.6-35
this is le pen. She will win. she will also get france out of the EU or start the process pretty quickly, thats the 1-6 split there. of course there'll be lot of moaning about this from the establishment, but shes got the french people behind her and shes gonna do it faster than the UK.
diamanda asked what issues are gonna be talked about the most? well most of us get our current events by reading about them-so metaphorically alot of ink is used and pens use ink. So theres a little i ching pun there.

20.1-42
i think this is about the corporate media being exposed and a warning to the sheeple. If you live your life for yourself and don't really care about how you make your money, for instance, well your a child but ok you're not as bad as the person who refuses to look into the truth of the matter or who willfully propagandizes.
I think this is going to be about the European press, not that it isn't taking place in the US and Australia, Canada, etc, but the Europeans are going to be affected here. Specifically the migrant crime issue is not reported or under reported and propagandized, this will probably come out more and be a big issue.
But also CNN I think is included here, the press is supposed to report the truth, not propagandize, not massage the message, not "shape the...perception" of the truth.
"One of the things I think this administration hasn’t figured out yet is that there’s only one television network that is seen in Beijing, Moscow, Seoul, Tokyo, Pyongyang, Baghdad, Tehran and Damascus — and that’s CNN," Zucker said. "The perception of Donald Trump in capitals around the world is shaped, in many ways, by CNN. " quote from Jeff Zucker head of CNN-news outlet or propaganda arm of the elite?

20.1 -i'm editing this to add breaking news: Google Bans 200 Publishers After Fake News Policy Update
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/google-fake-news-policy-ads/2017/01/25/id/770366/
google wide reaching:Full of trust they look up to him. (Wilhelm)

Siu: At the outset, the man does not comprehend the nature of prevailing forces nor does he perceive them as a connected whole. The superficial view is acceptable for the masses, but the superior man should know better.

looks like a mistake from google.

Those are my guesses, it's so early and so much can happen in a year.
 
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diamanda

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looking at the order diamanda listed the events, if that coincides with the order she asked the questions

Yes I typed the answers in the order they were cast.

50.1.6-35
this is le pen. She will win. she will also get france out of the EU or start the process pretty quickly, thats the 1-6 split there. of course there'll be lot of moaning about this from the establishment, but shes got the french people behind her and shes gonna do it faster than the UK.
diamanda asked what issues are gonna be talked about the most? well most of us get our current events by reading about them-so metaphorically alot of ink is used and pens use ink. So theres a little i ching pun there.

All your guesses are good Granma, but I've got the exact same feeling like you do about this particular one. That it's about Le Pen winning. She has said that if she wins she will hold a referendum in/out of the EU. If this is the case, the result will be out, it will happen fast, and most probably the EU will start crumbling further after that (which will be a shock in itself).
 

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Just a note, about the place of hexagrams in the Palaces

Hex 7 is the Gui Hun (returning ghost) of Palace Kan (water, South).
Hex 51 is the Shou Gua ( Head of Palace) of Palace Zhen (wood, East)
Hex 20 is the Si Shi Gua (4th generation) of Palace Qian (metal Southwest)

Would this hint the event's location from a World Wide perspective, from diamanda's location (UK) or from China's location?

Have fun
 
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Thanks so much Sixth Relative! That's exactly what I meant by is there anyone here to interpret location, just what this thread needs.

Would this hint the event's location from a World Wide perspective, from diamanda's location (UK) or from China's location?

Maybe it's from the perspective of what are the generally accepted common terms nowadays.

This comes to mind for now:
Hex 7 is the Gui Hun (returning ghost) of Palace Kan (water, South)
>> the South China Sea dispute will turn into an ill-prepared war.
 

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This comes to mind for now:
Hex 7 is the Gui Hun (returning ghost) of Palace Kan (water, South)
>> the South China Sea dispute will turn into an ill-prepared war.

Let's hope not!
I just asked
What will happen with China south sea dispute
53.6
I can't remember exact wording.
 
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What will happen with China south sea dispute 53.6 > 39
Flying geese drop their feathers downwards. Quite an apt image for a drone attack.
Since only the sixth line changes, there will be no gradual progress towards this, it will be sudden.
I also hope not of course.
Military-Drone-Market.jpg
 

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What will happen with China south sea dispute
53.6

If the cast was made on January 25, 2017 there is no indication of open war, but an indirect one; most probably economic war. It is not clear for me who is the Host and who is the Guest in this conflict, but the Guest is going to reinforce it's position and be able to undermine the Host's strength not in an open conflict but diminishing it's support.
In hex 53 the host is in line 3 and the guest is in line 6
Line 3 is Shen (metal) and Line 6 is Mao (wood). Metal controls Mao, so the Guest is weaker than the Host. But the Guest is active and the resultant element is Zi (water) with the relative Money attached. So, the guest is reinforced by money. Wood destroys Earth (earth produces metal, so represents Host's supporters) and produces Fire (fire destroys metal). Therefore, in an open conflict the Guest has everything to lose, and it's a better strategy to undermine the Host indirectly.

We'll see.
 
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My question was, what will be the 3 most important 'events' on the planet in 2017?
I was thinking in terms of what will be most prevalent, will be most talked about, will have a lot of repercussions globally, you get the gist.
'Event' 1: 7.1 > 19 'Event' 2: 51.1.6 > 35 'Event' 3: 20.1 > 42.

New border control policies
Elections in Europe (particularly France and Germany)
Terrorist attacks in the West
Islamic State (going weaker, stronger or morphing into something else)
Trump presidency
Mark Zuckerberg using Facebook to launch his political career
Julien Assange leaving Ecuadorian Embassy in London
Brexit drama (billionaires and fund hedge managers go to court again claiming they are the guardians of democracy and Constitution)
Any climate related event (natural disasters or big chunks of ice breaking off somewhere)
Aviation disasters
Angelina Jolie adopting more children and spending a fortune on counseling

Looks like we only need to see how 2017 unfolds to fit them in.
 

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