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mrmorrow

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hi
i do not post much but i am in awe of the i ching.
i use it only for very important questions ;the rest of the time i apply the knowledge of line one hexigram 41.I find this is so effective and non confusing.I also ask one question and thats that.I have such a deep respect for something as powerful and awe inspiring.

I mediated and focused on the global warming problem and recieved hexigram 39 with three changing lines. line 1- line2- and line5.ending with hexigram 11 peace.

A Positive outlook i hope what do ypu think!
 

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"I mediated and focused on the global warming problem and recieved hexigram 39 with three changing lines. line 1- line2- and line5.ending with hexigram 11 peace."

Hex 39.1 The world should not blindly rush into action when threatened with danger. Man should wait for the right moment to act, he should think very carefully how best to deal with global warming problem.

Hex 39.2 Man will have to go out and deal with global warming directly, there are no shortcuts to a solution. Man is duty bound to take action. Somebody must take on the responsibility of dealing with the damage caused by others.

Hex 39.5 All(most) countries will eventually band together to help each other in order to deal with the global warming problem.

Hex 11 Man will eventually bring nature under his control, global warming will be controlled, he will then proceed to make nature more fertile. The seasons will no longer matter to the farmer, as crops will be produced that will grow the whole year round. Most fruit trees will bear fruit the whole year, and fast growing plants, shrubs and trees will be produced that will not only grow quickly but will also be able to grow in most places on earth. All trees and crops will be genetically modified in the not too distant future. Abundant food must be and will be produced for the masses.

Food for thought.
 

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willowfox said:
All trees and crops will be genetically modified in the not too distant future.

Good God I hope not! Give me knobily fruit and veg with tonnes more flavour and goodness any day! In which case we probably wouldn't have to eat as much. All this GM stuff scares me. I mean it really can't be good for you can it? Or good for nature?
 

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mrmorrow said:
I mediated and focused on the global warming problem and recieved hexigram 39 with three changing lines. line 1- line2- and line5.ending with hexigram 11 peace.

A Positive outlook i hope what do ypu think!

Here is what "Yilin" says about it:

履險登危,道遠勞罷。去家自歸,困涉大波。

Walking through dangerous places, one enters the danger,
The way is long and hard work stops.
Being apart from one's family one returns,
And tired one fords the big waves.

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boyler
www.hidden-city.net
 

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We’ll all be ruined !

I just asked a quick one about it

53.1.2 -> 9 (Development, Restraint)

Really didn’t have to read the rest of the words, that says it all, unfortunately that’s unlikely to happen.

Australia isn’t even a signatory to Kyoto, out magnanimous leader, little Johnny ‘apple seed’ Howard say that any reduction in emissions that we could achieve would be eaten up by China’s increased emissions in 1 year, and I think he’s probably right, not that that’s a good enough excuse.

We’re into a six year drought here, the worst we’ve ever seen, mind you they’ve being saying that for as long as I can remember. Global Warming would seem to be fact now, Oh well that’s change for you, mind you it might not turn out that badly.

Whoops I just added a bit more smoke to the cloud , sorry about that !

 

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THE TAMING POWER OF THE SMALL
Has success.
Dense clouds, no rain from our western region.

We’re into a six year drought here, the worst we’ve ever seen.

There you go, IC right again.
 

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Do you think 11 implies humanity bringing nature under total(itarian) control? Elimination of the natural cycle? It doesn't seem that way to me.

Hexagram 39 is associated - by some of us, at least - with the hero Yu who toiled for many years to conquer the floods. Heh.
 

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"Do you think 11 implies humanity bringing nature under total(itarian) control? Elimination of the natural cycle?"

I would say rather that humanity trying to bring nature under total control is the cause of the present situation we're in. I would interpret 39>11 positively, but I do not see that positive outcome as containing more control by humanity over nature. Rather, I see the positive outcome as one in which humanity *understands* the principles at work in the global ecological economy, and learns how to adapt and change its ways so as to harmonize with nature instead of trying to dominate it. Like men have been learning how to do in marriage for the last 100 years - they've been learning how to live with women more harmoniously, without dominating. (insert wiseass comment of your choice here - I'll probably laugh)
 

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39.1 Going through the trouble of reducing emissions is praiseworthy.
39.2 The trouble of global warming is not anyone's intention.
39.5 Humanity is in big trouble, and needs joint efforts to do something about it.
11 Humanity does something about this in the flow of events. Gains clearly outweigh the losses.

I decided to give a go as well at translating Yilin 39-11:
Passing through a narrow pass, advancing is dangerous.
The path is far off, the effort is exhausting.
Having left the family, by oneself returning home.
Oppressed, wading through big waves.​
 

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All good. (And how interesting is it that the Yilin is also using Yu-imagery?)

39.2: 'King, servant, limping, limping. In no way is his person the cause.'
Does this mean the next generation clearing up messes they didn't create? That the problem is caused by what we serve - an ideology, maybe? Or something else?
 
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Since this was “about global warming” and not necessarily how best to deal with it, I’d read it as: obstruction to natural balance.

Yilin is interesting in this respect. Loosely:

Born to wander this place (space)
It’s a long, hard road
Having departed unity
Navigating through waves of hardship

Seems to describe humanity’s and earth’s condition, of which global warming is a part of.
 

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