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steve

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Jesus was a carpenter but very learned in his short years
would anyone ever ask is he the son of man
Personally i know he was my argument is this
there is no possible way someone could speak ie that kind of knowledge so fast so fast
So many times i have looked to the old book,, without seeing but a small inner peace

Perhaps the I ching is trully for the gifted...i onece caught a pink floyd glimpsce
there are records even in the bible but please dont quote me today


god bless
Steve
 

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I am so sorry
I was so ashamed to come here again..i have grown so much
Jesus to me was stronger han confucios reason being he was younger

Johns verse is more ,,yes the book of john..OK what he stood with seven circles in his hands is this myth or whore of babylon with seven heads
maybe he just stood there with seven stars in his hands
the question is old
never ask the question because the question is answered inside

for u willowfox,,,u are wonderful
Stephen
 

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Ok there are records of coins being thrown in the bible..apparently
dont quote me...yep there are
 
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For divination purposes? Where? Chapter and verse, please.

Lev 16:8 And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other lot for the scapegoat.

Jos 18:6 Ye shall therefore describe the land [into] seven parts, and bring [the description] hither to me, that I may cast lots for you here before the LORD our God.

Jos 18:8 And the men arose, and went away: and Joshua charged them that went to describe the land, saying, Go and walk through the land, and describe it, and come again to me, that I may here cast lots for you before the LORD in Shiloh.

Jos 18:10 And Joshua cast lots for them in Shiloh before the LORD: and there Joshua divided the land unto the children of Israel according to their divisions.

1Sa 14:42 And Saul said, Cast [lots] between me and Jonathan my son. And Jonathan was taken.

1Ch 24:31 These likewise cast lots over against their brethren the sons of Aaron in the presence of David the king, and Zadok, and Ahimelech, and the chief of the fathers of the priests and Levites, even the principal fathers over against their younger brethren.

1Ch 25:8 And they cast lots, ward against [ward], as well the small as the great, the teacher as the scholar.

1Ch 26:13 And they cast lots, as well the small as the great, according to the house of their fathers, for every gate.

1Ch 26:14 And the lot eastward fell to Shelemiah. Then for Zechariah his son, a wise counsellor, they cast lots; and his lot came out northward.

Neh 10:34 And we cast the lots among the priests, the Levites, and the people, for the wood offering, to bring [it] into the house of our God, after the houses of our fathers, at times appointed year by year, to burn upon the altar of the LORD our God, as [it is] written in the law:

Neh 11:1 And the rulers of the people dwelt at Jerusalem: the rest of the people also cast lots, to bring one of ten to dwell in Jerusalem the holy city, and nine parts [to dwell] in [other] cities.

Psa 22:18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

Joe 3:3 And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.

Oba 1:11 In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou [wast] as one of them.

Jon 1:7 And they said every one to his fellow, Come, and let us cast lots, that we may know for whose cause this evil [is] upon us. So they cast lots, and the lot fell upon Jonah.

Nah 3:10 Yet [was] she carried away, she went into captivity: her young children also were dashed in pieces at the top of all the streets: and they cast lots for her honourable men, and all her great men were bound in chains.

In N.T.

Mat 27:35 And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.

Luk 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

Jhn 19:24 They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did.

Oh, found this one too, hidden shamefully in the word search from my other source, it seems:

Act 1:26 And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles. (This is how the apostles replaced Judas.)
 
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Wow. Maybe you have too much time on your hands lol.

Hey, thanks for that - that's comfortingly comprehensive, and a nice glimpse into Bible times culture. Yeah, I'm aware of the 'casting lots' thing. But Steve talks about 'throwing coins' in the Bible. Did they use coins? It might have been, cuz coins are pretty available in any situation other than abject poverty.
 
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I think a lot is a stone with a shiny and dull side, and two of them were used in the casting.

"We can only speculate about what materials were used in the casting of lots. Some
scholars believe several stones, or perhaps precious gems, were cast from a clay jug.
Others connect the practice with Urim and Thummin, precious stones that were on,
by or in the breastplate of the high priest of Israel. The high priest used these stones
in making important decision, but it is not known exactly how this was done (Ex. 28:30)."
 

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I think a lot is a stone with a shiny and dull side, and two of them were used in the casting.

Two shinies = yes?

Two dulls = no?

One shiny, one dull = definitely maybe?
 

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lot O.E. hlot "object (anything from dice to straw, but often a chip of wood with a name inscribed on it) used to determine someone's share," also "what falls to a person by lot," from P.Gmc. *khlutom (cf. O.N. hlutr "lot, share," O.H.G. hluz "share of land," O.E. hleotan "to cast lots, to foretell"), of unknown origin. The object was placed with others in a receptacle, which was shaken, the winner being the one that fell out first. Hence, to cast lots. In some cases the lots were drawn by hand. The word was adopted from Gmc. into the Romanic languages (cf. lottery, lotto). Meaning "choice resulting from the lasting of lots" first attested c.1205. Sense of "plot of land" is first recorded 1633 (distribution of the best property in new settlements often determined by casting lot), that of "group, collection" is 1725, from notion of auction lots. The generalized sense of "great many" is first attested in 1812. To cast (one's) lot with another is to agree to share winnings.
 

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So like drawing straws as in who draws the 'short straw'. Not exactly divination more like heads you wins tails you lose ?
 
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They used (random?) chance to determine the course of their lives and nation, and to discern the will of their God. That's not an oracle/divination?
 

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Just grateful i am here
once a wizard always a student..then a wizard ..again

So blessed my head is low
Stephen
 

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