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Help! I asked a question regarding the best way to move toward a happy reunion with a person I'm estranged from and don't know if I'll see again. I got Hexagram 1, with the fourth and sixth lines changing to Hex. 5.

Based on my rudimentary knowledge of the oracle it seemed both very encouraging yet very tentative at the same time; is this my hopes clashing with reality, or am I missing something? Thanks for your help. :confused:
 

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This looks favorable to me as well. Hexagram 1 is about creative energy, and I'm guessing that there is considerable energy behind your desire to reconnect with this person. I'm thinking that Yi might be encouraging you to keep your eyes/mind/heart open for a creative way - that there may be an opportunity ahead of you that's a bit out of the ordinary.

LIne 4 seems to indicate you are at a crossroads here, and that as long as you are true to your highest self and values, either path: reconnecting with this person or not reconnecting with this person will be ok in the long run for you.

Per line 6, I'd caution you not to let yourself be carried away by the "push" of this creative energy into an inappropriate intrusion with this person. (You do say you are estranged.)

Hope this is helpful.

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Mercury,
I would not read this answer for you, and I'll tell you why. This is the second time very recently someone has asked a question that pre-supposes the outcome as part of the question.

When you come to the oracle and you ask questions like this, you are in trying in effect, though perhaps without realizing it, to manipulate the answer. Your question is, 'what's the prescription? what ingredients do I need to cook up this outcome?'

In truth, you are estranged. Correct? So, this is where you start. "Help me understand the cause of this estrangement". Then, "what is my path forward?". Happy reconciliation involves the free will of another human being. Perhaps their will be in alignment with yours, but perhaps it will not be. Because your initial question doesn't reflect an acceptance of that fact, you are putting yourself in danger of allowing the oracle to mirror back to you your own mind, and to seem to deceive you, though in fact your are deceiving yourself.
 

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Thanks Rinda, that's pretty much what I got, but of course I'm curious about the "crossroads" aspect -- and yeah, I'm impatient about this, so the warning about pushing forward is right on the money.

Incidentally, I asked generally about the situation between us, and got 23.1.6 (hope that's right) changing to 24. Any further thoughts are much appreciated...this is really cool, by the way...
 

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autumn, thank you for the insight...I've consulted the oracle extensively on this situation before, many times in general terms ("what is the energy between us/what am I looking for in this situation/what is the best path", etc.) so I feel I understand the underlying reasons and flow of things; but perhaps I've been too limited in assuming that yi was mainly for asking about possible ACTIONS? (and I am struggling with patience in this situation!)

I appreciate your thoughts and will go back to the roots of this. Thank you.
 

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excellent points, Autumn !!

I cautioned against intrusion, and suggested it was important to stay true to the querent's highest self and values, but didn't catch the bit about trying to manipulate the oracle, and I may have been guilty of that a time or two myself in the past ! :bag:

Otherwise, without the consent of the individual with whom the querent is estranged, this could be seen as trying to turn Yi into a tool for stalking. The reason I didn't go there in my response to mercury was the phrase "happy reunion" - it would need to be happy for both of them for the outcome to meet this criteria, in my mind.

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To answer your general question: Your relationship broke up in the past. It looks like it was a process of disintegration that began with a careless and destructive decision that caused one person to lose trust in the other. The decision casued something of real value to be lost. (23.1- fan yao is 27.1) The breakdown of the relationship continued through several months and culminated in a final ending where the pain of breaking up was finally over for you, but you became true enemies (23.6- fan yao is 2.6).

Now you are in a period of time when it is like the winter solstice, it is the darkest point of the year. The good news inherent in the winter solstice is that there are, like in 1.4, paths open to you. The difficulty is in recognizing whether the renewal called for is the kind of renewal that forgiveness and letting go brings, or the kind that builds a new relationship new again from the ground up.

1.4,6 (5), confess faults of arrogance and change expectations. Allow those changes to penetrate you before moving forward.
 

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autumn, thank you. I've only just become aware of the concepts of fan yao and nuclear hexagrams, etc. and the nuances you are bringing out are fascinating. (But enemies?? I don't think so...or maybe I need to ask about whether I feel that way and don't want to admit it!)

I continue to be confused about the oracle's ability to speak about the actions or motivations of those besides the querent in a given situation. It makes sense to me that it's only MY subconscious that interacts with the oracle, and that it can't 'read' other people's minds. Or am I not seeing deeply enough here?

Again, thank you for the insights.
 

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A prophetic oracle has an ancient history as a mouthpiece of the spirit. Whether you choose to see it that way is up to you. Here are the strongest messages that I see;

Hexagram 1: A call to your highest self and inner power in the moment
1.4- the wind is strong, so adjust yourself like a kite to the current, and commit totally to a new path, but do not expect to see major changes very soon (9)
1.6- a call to repentance for over-using or misusing power in the past requires strong resolution and a decision to separate the self from the past (43)

Expectations are changed and fulfilled with time (5). The situation evolves. When you truly follow what 1.4.6. is asking, then you change a little bit, and so do your expectations for the reunion. They become more in line with reality. 5 promises fulfilment in time. From what you've said about wanting something to happen now, it is probably a direct response to you that says there is no immediate change; commit yourself to your repetence and renewal.

24 is where you are right now in relationship to this person, and it also has a theme of changed attitudes, getting down to the blacket moment to see the light of truth.

Is this you, who needs to repent of something? Or is it the other person?

As for 23.6- this is a moment in time in your relationship in the past. It was a final ending. The last destructive words said, or actions chosen, and then rest. The result of that moment in time is, like you said, estrangement, and according to 2.6, violent resistance.

So- this doesn't fit? It's up to you to see if this fits or not. It's what the oracle seems to communicate generally according to my reading, but your situation will always be more complex, so work at looking how this does or does not relate to what happened in your life and the situation to see if the general message of "repentance" for past mistakes is
valid for you.
 

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One more thing..your relationship moving from the full cycle of 23 to 24 suggests that you're back to square 1, and the original problem that caused the bed to split apart. Here is where you deal with the planting the correct seeds to see the harvest. The cycle has started over again. What were the seeds of destruction before? What are the root problems?
 

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autumn, thank you for the reply and the reading; there's a lot that relates directly to the situation; and yes, there is a kind of repentance involved, as well as a return to square one. I'm pondering the rest and will inquire further along those lines.

Thank you, thank you so much.
 

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