Health 36 unch; 60.3.5 and 46.5

[flashlight]

Hi all,

I've not visited here in a while, it's been a busy time and a rather positive one overall.

Until I got some quite grim health news. Serious stuff. Details unimportant. Quality of life wins out over longevity for me.

Perhaps it is not wise - especially for a relative novice - to turn to the Yi for insight. But I figure as modern medicine has no answers, the Yi might be smarter (think collective unconscious and all that).

So I asked the Yi:

Please give me an image of my health? Hex 36 unchanging. The image of a dimming light did not exactly cheer me up. On another thread, about a sick cat, Rosada mentioned absolute rest. Don't feel like resting, rather enjoy every moment I have all the more....

What is the best thing I can do to help my body fight this?
Hex 60.3.5 to 11. Things that make you go hmmm.
Line 3, from LiSe, "If one's nature is not to restrain oneself, one gets into trouble. "
and 5, For safety there have to be rules, and even to guarantee freedom some things have to be restrained. These resonated and fit. I have revamped my (otherwise healthy) food habits to eliminate the few things that might render it more difficult for my body to fight and am working on quitting smoking (oh expletive, how hard that is).
If this response is so spot on, it makes me worry about the first answer... dimming light... No! I want to shine!

And finally, I asked the Yi, what kind of shape will I be in in January. When you suddenly realize that "now" is what you have, you can't keep putting off things you must do and want to do. And one of those for me is on the other side of the globe and next January would be good timing logistics and weather wise to do it. Provided I am still fit enough to make the trip.
The Yi answered 46.5 to 48, which really blew me away. Quoting LiSe again;
Proceed inch by inch, without skipping steps, then you will attain a lasting result. You will have it in control, and it will be strong enough to exist by itself. The reason for its strength is, that every step comes out of your own soul, you are what you do. No one can ever stop this.
Of course, I interpret it through the prism of what this trip means and is to accomplish. Yes, it would be a going to the well of sorts.

But that is not the question I asked Yi, I asked what kind of shape I would be in. On that, I have no clue how to understand the answer....

I know it's dicey to translate on health questions, but if anyone wanted to give it a go, I'd be grateful.

 

[pocossin]

Please give me an image of my health?
36 unchanging

If you make an effort you can to some degree recharge yourself.

36.X
The light goes within to the heart of the earth
Brightness Obscured
The noble young one, accordingly, manages the multitude
using darkness, but with intelligence

36.0
Warranting difficult persistence

There are ways to moderate or reverse every condition. I had a health crisis four years ago. I had already made a living will as a consequence of reading a short story by Poe on the horrors of artificially prolonged life. As soon as I was able, I made a will, prepaid burial expenses, began a distribution of property, and took steps to take control of my health. My health continues to improve although I am surrounded by the dead and dying. Last week my high school girlfriend was found dead of a heart attack.

Quality of life wins out over longevity for me.

Perhaps this means you declined chemotherapy. Myself, I declined heart surgery, and I now know that I made the right choice. I was threatened with sudden death for refusing, but I found that encouraging because what I dread is a slow, lingering, vegetative death. Other than conventional medicine, alternative medicine, and doing nothing, there is a fourth choice. You can take your own treatment in hand and perhaps improve your health. I have, partly by internet research and partly by experimenting on myself. I hope I have expanded your vision of possibilities.

 

[flashlight]

Pocossin,

Thank you for your kind response and sharing what you went through. I am so glad you survived all that and that your health continues to improve.

And I agree with you with the fourth choice, which is one I made/am making. I am in the early stages of figuring out all that I can do/try to help my body, though after a solid month on the internet reading all there is to read on the pancreas I'm starting to feel like an amateur oncologist. I was lucky, it's been diagnosed early - though 'early' in pancreas terms is much shorter time frame than for other organs. Well known alternative therapies are mission impossible for me,the regimens are so demanding and strict that you need at least two people living with you to help, no way to do it solo. So I am piecing together what makes most sense to me and what I can do/take and just that represents several hours a day. But feeling proactive instead of passive is important too, and I'm sure you understand what I mean by that. For what it is worth otherwise, it seems to be giving me energy and cheer - and even if it is just mind over matter, that is bloody important too!

Like you what I fear is a slow lingering, vegetative and painful death - not the ultimate exit. Thus, yes, if and when the time comes (I believe in the IF), I will refuse chemo. I have seen two close friends go with the same pb on the pancreas; there is no point.

Diagnosis came with an odd acceptance and a subtle peacefulness. I've read others feeling the same way, as curious as it may sound. Sure there is fear, but there is also a simplicity that comes on gently that clears away the "crap" and leaves more space for what is most important. Tough to find the right words to explain this. On that too, I am at the beginning stages.

And thus the trip I am planning, which is important to me and for me, and would fulfill a long made promise.
And thus my question to the Yi asking what shape I'd be in next January... I still don't get that answer....

 

[Trojina]

I've not visited here in a while, it's been a busy time and a rather positive one overall.

Until I got some quite grim health news. Serious stuff. Details unimportant. Quality of life wins out over longevity for me.

Perhaps it is not wise - especially for a relative novice - to turn to the Yi for insight. But I figure as modern medicine has no answers, the Yi might be smarter (think collective unconscious and all that).

I'm very sorry to hear of this

So I asked the Yi:

Please give me an image of my health? Hex 36 unchanging. The image of a dimming light did not exactly cheer me up. On another thread, about a sick cat, Rosada mentioned absolute rest. Don't feel like resting, rather enjoy every moment I have all the more....

I think the idea might be to keep your light burning bright hide it from dangerous or unsympathetic influences, but I also have received it upon receiving injury of some kind, including theft ! The light is still safe, to keep it safe you hide to protect yourself. Hence I think this gives a picture of the fact that you are in a sense wounded. It's literal. If you are wounded what would you do ? Would you go fight a few battles or party every night...or stay quiet and tend your wounds till you are stronger ? I think this answer may be about tending very carefully to your inner light, your inner consciousness. Don't neglect that. When your body is ill don't fight it too hard but go within, meditate, draw on your inner reserves. If you found an animal in your current state how would you treat it ? Treat your own body like a sick animal you are very fond of. Protect it.

What is the best thing I can do to help my body fight this?
Hex 60.3.5 to 11. Things that make you go hmmm.
Line 3, from LiSe, "If one's nature is not to restrain oneself, one gets into trouble. "
and 5, For safety there have to be rules, and even to guarantee freedom some things have to be restrained. These resonated and fit. I have revamped my (otherwise healthy) food habits to eliminate the few things that might render it more difficult for my body to fight and am working on quitting smoking (oh expletive, how hard that is).
If this response is so spot on, it makes me worry about the first answer... dimming light... No! I want to shine!

Well where you need to shine is deep inside yourself, a warm protective light of your own higher consciousness. All this stuff about 'fighting' that people speak of, often in very insensitive ways, almost as if the sick person just isn't 'trying hard enough' I find quite worrying. Do all you can of course to keep well but don't regard it as a moral battle. Anything living can get sick, it's not a moral failing. So how can you help your body. Oh this looks like a very clear warning to please recognise your limitations ! (60.3) I think you can succeed in finding balance with your limits (60.5) and from this tap into the great flow of hexagram 11. You cannot go on as before, you have to rest more and so on. This is what you are being advised to do quite clearly IMO. Recognise the limitations this brings and respect them...it is important you respect them and don't go beyond what you can do (60.3)

And finally, I asked the Yi, what kind of shape will I be in in January. When you suddenly realize that "now" is what you have, you can't keep putting off things you must do and want to do. And one of those for me is on the other side of the globe and next January would be good timing logistics and weather wise to do it. Provided I am still fit enough to make the trip.
The Yi answered 46.5 to 48, which really blew me away. Quoting LiSe again;
Proceed inch by inch, without skipping steps, then you will attain a lasting result. You will have it in control, and it will be strong enough to exist by itself. The reason for its strength is, that every step comes out of your own soul, you are what you do. No one can ever stop this.
Of course, I interpret it through the prism of what this trip means and is to accomplish. Yes, it would be a going to the well of sorts.

But that is not the question I asked Yi, I asked what kind of shape I would be in. On that, I have no clue how to understand the answer....

I know it's dicey to translate on health questions, but if anyone wanted to give it a go, I'd be grateful.

Well this is a hopeful answer and fits well with previous answers. You really must take things step by step. there is no instant leap to health here. How you are in January may depend on you observing those 60.3 limits. You need to be as steady and persistent as you would be climbing a great big mountain where the weather changes often....there are setbacks, but you keep yourself steady inwardly and don't ask too much of yourself. If you can do this then perhaps you can get to do what you wish to do in January ?

Wishing you the best



Also don't forget to make use of the various support organisations that are around for specific types of this illness or generally. Keeping your mind well is also a priority as said above.

 

[flashlight]

Thanks, Trojina, and thank you for your PM

I think the idea might be to keep your light burning bright hide it from dangerous or unsympathetic influences, but I also have received it upon receiving injury of some kind,

Yup, and that's part of what I meant when I said the good side of this bad news really helped to shake off the "crap" (things and people that affect peace of mind and cause stress- or more). Also think it might mean using that light in guided meditations, which I am learning how to do.

So how can you help your body. Oh this looks like a very clear warning to please recognise your limitations ! (60.3) I think you can succeed in finding balance with your limits (60.5) and from this tap into the great flow of hexagram 11. You cannot go on as before, you have to rest more and so on. This is what you are being advised to do quite clearly IMO. Recognise the limitations this brings and respect them...it is important you respect them and don't go beyond what you can do (60.3)

Indeed, I can't go on as before. I think the limitations are of two forms. Recognizing my limits and not doing more than I can do. Yes, I do get tired, and I've taken up afternoon naps. But also limiting or eliminating things that are not helpful in my diet and environment. The positive effect of any change, of course, will take time to show, as your "take it step by step, no instant leap to health" advice underscores.

Taking it one day at a time, one step at a time. With heart and purpose.

 

[pocossin]

Flashlight, if you want extra time you can have it but at a steep price: the ketogenic diet.

http://www.bottomlinepublications.c...tarve-cancer-to-death-with-the-ketogenic-diet

This diet will put a fast-growing cancer into indefinite remission, and it will extend your life long enough to take that trip in good health. For it you will need medical supervision -- blood tests to make sure that deficiencies do not occur.

There are also folk remedies. Fourteen years ago I was visited by a woman who grew up in the neighborhood. She told me that she had cured herself of doctor-diagnosed terminal cancer by high doses of pepper pills, available at any health food store. I asked her if using hot pepper on my food would do, and she said that that was not enough pepper (capsaicin). I'd need to take pills. I do not know her dosage and pills vary, but I would guess that she took three or more pills five times a day.

 

[flashlight]

I know your suggestion comes from the heart, Pocossin, and I appreciate it.

In the past month, I've read hundreds of pages on allopathic, alternative and folk treatment and remedies, and for not one would I use affirmative terms such as *will* put cancer into *definitive remission*, particularly pancreatic. We don't know. Gonzalez seems to have some success but his clinical trials seem to have been snafued to the point he wrote a book about it. His protocol, as the Gerson one, is out of my reach: you need several people on hand 18 hours a day just to handle its logistics. You can listen here on what he has to say on the ketogenic diet (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0i-AdCm-Mg ). There are valuable insights in each of these regimens and unless one tries them, one can't know what will work or help, it's pretty individual.
Luckily, I'm pre-c, which gives me a head start to (knock wood) slow this down and I'm pretty tuned into what my body has to say (thus, early discovery). I'm doing what makes sense to me to help build immunity, reduce inflammation, and help my entire system (I'll agree there, this is a systemic disease) function more harmoniously. In 6 months, with the next echo endoscopy, we'll see if it's grown, shrunk or remained stable. Collective good energies are welcome!

 

[pocossin]

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[pocossin]

I know your suggestion comes from the heart, Pocossin

It isn't just from the heart, although I do wish you well. I did the research on this topic over a year ago when I was concerned that several members of Clarity had died of cancer before they had completed their tasks in life. I read of tests that had been made in Germany, all positive, except that the diet is so punishing that some choose not to continue it. If making that trip is the most important thing remaining in your life, I think I can guarantee you will make it provided your are willing to endure the ketogenic diet. Research confirms it. Please, don't take my word for it. Do the research yourself. Cancer is no longer a pre-determined death sentence.

 

[poised]

Some benefits of ketogenic diet

the diet is so punishing that some choose not to continue it.

I cannot comment on cancer, but had some experience with the ketogenic diet. Several years ago, I went on week one of the Atkins diet, which at that time was carb-free. I'd been feeling sickish, had little energy for months. My doctor warned me not to do it, but I did.

When he saw me after one week on Atkins, he was amazed at how energetic I was, how radiant and healthy looking. He asked me to stay on week one for another week. I did, and looked and felt even better. He then asked me to stay on the carb-free week one diet for a third week. I was absolutely cured from every hint of sickness or disease. As for the "diet" part, I didn't lose a single ounce gorging on bacon and steak. But then, I wasn't overweight to begin with.

For some of us, carbs are not friends. A week or two of the ketogenic diet now and then is wonderful for my energy and fitness levels.

Not to be construed as medical advice, flashlight. I do wish you the best for a full recovery. The link pocossin provided above has wonderful information, and of course there are other sites too.

 

[flashlight]

I'm glad for you Atkins had positive effects. I did not respond positively to it many years ago. My body does not do well with lots of meat and fats. Perhaps you had a problem with gluten or candida (which does make one feel sickly and sluggish), I'm not a doctor! The only carbs I get in my diet come from fruits, vegetables and some whole grains. I've never had a sweet tooth and never use prepared foods, it's all home made. I am upping my veg and fruit intake these days by adding juicing to increase nutriments, munch on some raw nuts, and have eliminated dairy (tough for a cheese lover!). I'm slowly bringing in supplements too that research has proven to help build immunity and so on. I'm feeling pretty good overall!

 

[pocossin]

This thread has made me aware of the danger of high fructose corn syrup.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/a.../27/warning--fructose-feeds-cancer-cells.aspx

Pancreatic tumor cells use fructose to divide and proliferate

http://naturalmedicinejournal.com/journal/2012-10/high-fructose-corn-syrup-and-pancreatic-cancer

 

[flashlight]

Good idea, Pocossin, to remind all of this.

The standard American diet, which is spreading worldwide, is dangerously sugar (and fructose corn syrup) based. Even those who, somewhat aware, cut out soft drinks and such, don't realize that nearly everything is laced with this stuff -- unless of course one makes everything from scratch (scratch = natural state ingredients nature grew). It's the cause of so many diseases and of course, obesity.

I've never been able to fathom soda and all that jazz...And I think I've been to a fast food chain twice in my youth...