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Vissino

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Good afternoon,

It's my first post here. So glad to be with your company. I ching is so tricky so i need your help.

I broke up with my boyfriend a couple of days ago. He is in a difficult situation regarding his job and he doesn't want to make any conversation about our relationship. I am sure there are stil feelings for me and we have keep a communication but I am not sure if there are hopes to be together. The reason of our seperation was because I couldn't support him in a very difficult situation in his life and my reason was because i found some messages from an other girl. So we broke up by both sites mistakes. We live in different countries and our relationship was difficult from the beginning but soon he will move to my country.

Anyway, some of my questions:

we will have relationship?
hex 31

After our seperation, will be together?
hex. 60.3.5> 11 hidden line 5.5

What would be the effect between us?
50.1.2>30 hidden line 14.2

Are we going to have a relationship again?
3.1.6>20

Is he the guy I would marry?
40.1>53

What will happen between us?
39.1>63

Would we be together again?
42

Will we have a stable relationship?
7.4.5.6> 6 hidden lines 40.5 and 47.6
There are no hopes to be together?
hex 11

Our communication will stop?
24.2.3>11 hidden line 19.3

What will happen between us?
29.5>7

Will we manage to be together again?
48.2.5/15 hidden 39.5

Will we be together soon?
hex 14

Do i Have to insist for relationship with him?
14.2/30

What is he going to do towards me in April?
16.4 > 2

Our situation between us is going to change?
19.2.5.6>42 hidden lines 24.5 and 3.6

what it's going to happen between us?
hex 11

Will we manage to be together again?
9.4>1

Would be reconciliaton between us?
6.1.6>58

What is he going to do with us?
17.4.5/24 hidden line 3.5

What would be the conclusion of this situation between us?
24.1> 2

Will it be a new beginning between us?
54.1.4/7 hidden line 40.4

Will he overcome me?
31.2>28

how is going to develop our seperation?
43.6> 1

Will we have a reconciliation?
9.1.2.3.4>12

Is he going to ask me to marry him?
34.3.4>19 hidden line 54.4 (old question before we broke up)

Is he going to propose me to marry him?
25.3.5/30 hidden line 13.5 (old question before we broke up)

I apologise for so many questions, I am not new in I ching but I need someone with real experience to check my questions and give me a total answer. I am so confused. I thing we would be together again but some answers are not so clear or positive.

Thank you in advance.
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Vissino

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A clarification:
in question "Is he the guy I would marry?"
40.1>53

The answer was: 40.2.3.4.5.6> 53
So all the hexagram is destroyed and we keep only the stable line 40.1.
 

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Er...Yes, that's a lot of questions.

Maybe decrease them to a maximum of 5 that you think are the most important ones? That might be more manageable. (Unless someone feels adventurous and has much more time on their hands than I do...)
 

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This might help you choose the best questions http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/frie...42-Blog-post-Advice-for-relationship-readings

You've asked a whole series of yes/no questions, that is questions to which you only want a yes or no. I see no problem with yes/no questions but they probably aren't the best ones for newbies to the I Ching. It's better to ask just one or two questions perhaps just asking for an over view of the situation. I will try your first 4 questions

Anyway, some of my questions:

we will have relationship?
hex 31

I don't know. You seem open to one another, still reacting to one another, but the answer doesn't really say where this might go.

After our seperation, will be together?
hex. 60.3.5> 11 hidden line 5.5

Perhaps. I don't know what you mean by 'hidden line ? Was 5.5 a separate cast ? 60 is about reaching agreements that are palatable to both of you. 60.3 shows one or both of you being unrealistic in demands or expectations of the other but 60.5 shows the possibility of reaching agreements. It looks to me like something needs to change between you and you need to talk and be willing to hear one another.



What would be the effect between us?
50.1.2>30 hidden line 14.2

I don't understand the question.

Are we going to have a relationship again?
3.1.6>20

It all depends on whether you can come to a realistic way to have a relationship. By that I mean where you can be happy with the boundaries and conditions of his situation/personality etc and he can also come to terms with yours. That is what the 60 reading showed and so far that is the reading to work on IMO.

Whether you have a relationship depends on both you and he having a good look at this (20). You need some time apart I think to re evaluate demands and expectations. You have nothing worked out yet and may be a bit lost looking at 3 here.
 

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Hi Vissino

I am not new in I ching but I need someone with real experience to check my questions and give me a total answer.

No one can give you a total answer to those questions; among other things, because one can't trust those answers anymore (when you ask so many times the same question, the answers can't be trusted anymore... simply they reflect your own anxiety)

I really sorry what you are facing; I know how difficult this may sound but it seems to me that the best thing for you is to stay away from the Yijing until you gain some inner peace and calmness; otherwise, instead of making you a service, consulting the Yijing would only increase your inner turmoil.

I would suggest you to stop consulting for 10 days; and then, ask one question: how do I cope with this broken relationship?

I wish you all the best
 

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More yes/no questions. You'd be better to simply ask 'what do I need to understand about my situation with him right now ?'


Is he the guy I would marry?
40.1>53

Well 40.1 says there's nothing mistaken to be corrected so one can carry on as normal. Does this mean you will marry him ? No idea if this means you are better off letting him go OR there's not much wrong here anyway. I must say I lean towards letting him go but I'm not sure of that since previous reading 60.3.5>11 showed you might work things out



What will happen between us?
39.1>63

You are struggling, it's a hard situation for both of you perhaps. Let it go for a while then see if you can talk. The 31 uc suggests his silence shows he is still reacting to you.

Overall I get the strong impression you need to leave this be and take time to look at what went wrong. Don't try to call him or anything. During that time you may realise there are just too many problems for this to work or you may come up with some solutions to how you can be together in a more harmonious way. You have asked as if either this relationship is destined to be or it isn't but so much of it depends on whether it is even possible for you two to be together. If you can work things out to suit both of you then it's okay.

If it were a business relationship you'd talk about the 'terms and conditions' and the 60.3.5>11 shows that 'terms and conditions' are what are needed between you. But the 11 as relating I think shows so many factors that sweep you along, that are out of your control, it can be quite hard without real love and commitment to working at staying together.
 
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Vissino

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Thank you so much for your help. Thank you very much trojina for your interest on my questions.
I think almost all of my questions confirm that we will be together but it will haven't got happy end.He will hurt me. And the reason seems to be an other woman again.

Prospects?
4.2.4>35 23.4
I think 4.2 confirms that there will be an other woman and 4.4 I will have illusions. But 35 I will see everything clearly.

Is he going to hurt me;
33.3.4.5> 23. 12.4 & 20.5
Absolutely yes. After retreat and friendly retreat, separation 23.

What must I do so as to avoid hurting me;
25.1.4/20 12.4
Just nothing? He is mine so he will come to me when he is ready 25.4?
I think 20 has the meaning do not make any offer.
 
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When asking the I, You ask the authority to whom You can lend totally trust. "He" or "She" will never betray You. Like said above, Yes-No-questions can be confusing...
My suggestion for how to ask: Dear He/She/Father/Mother: This is my situation... How to handle it ?
From hereon the I will open in pictures Your situation and confront You with events and - sometimes - how "the noble man" acts upon that, like 'this is the way it can be succesfully solved'.
(This just to point out a better way to ask than Yes/No-questions.)
Btw: stick on to the very first question of Yours and if You don't understand the answer to that You wouldn't probably understand answers coming to forthgoing questions - I guess.
 
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Vissino

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Dear Svenrus thank you for your remarks.

I asked to give me an advice about. The answer was:
3.1/8
I suppose it confirms to not do anything. Maybe 8 means he will come to me..
 
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svenrus

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I must confess, since my avatar is mentioned, that I'm very attempted to answer and I got a lot of suggestions out of the translations of The I that I possess, but as I'm not a diviner - and in such a generous matter as Yours I'll leave it up to the above, to see, helpers (feudal lords) which You are appointed to seek (in the answer given by I Ching).
 

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Hi Vissino, I'm in a similar situation and like you I started to overcast tons of questions. I reckon the best thing you can do is stop worrying and find calm. Read a book, take a walk and avoid IC for a couple of days, or weeks, like Sixth relative told you. Anxiety only gives more turmoil.

For me the key has been taking a rest from IC questions. I'd wait few days and then I started with just one question, the post Trojina recommended you is very helpful. I feel what you are feeling right know because I'm at the same page. But it's more an attitude to the matter and communication with the other person than ask hundreds of questions. Sometimes our eagerness to be close to that person drive us crazy and we start to lose control on ourselves. My advice is to relax, and try to find a way to be patience and observe from outside this situation (I know how hard and difficult it is).

I wish you all the bests too! Keep calm! Everything has a solution, so why worry about. And if it doesn't have a solution, then, why worry about!
 
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Vissino

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Svenrus I like your answer about helpers. I haven't thought about it.

Raupe thank you for your support. You know how I feel.

Before we broke up I was asking a lot of questions and most of them answered me the same think "separation"
So I don't think that my answers are confused but today I asked something and the answer was:
57.2.6/ 39. It's absolutely clear that I have to make a break from I ching. So I will.
 
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svenrus

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Sorry to interrupt - I agree basically with raupe - but why not use this break from the I Ching to dive deeper into it's answer on the subject, leaving the coins, cards..... and read ?
May the force be with You

:bows:
 
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Vissino

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Thank you Svenrus. I am watching the videos and are really worthy.

Wish there is someone to write me opinion about my question:
What must I do so as to avoid hurting me;
25.1.4/20 12.4
Just nothing?I must stay sincere to myself 25.1. He is mine so he will come to me when he is ready 25.4 "Siu: What really belongs to the man cannot be lost to him. As long as he remains steadfast to his own nature, he will commit no error"
I think 20 has the meaning do not make any offer.

Or

25.1 Blofeld: Moving onward with integrity brings good fortune.
25.4 Legge: The fourth line, dynamic, shows a case in which, if its subject can remain firm and correct, there will be no error.
20 Shaughnessy: Looking Up. Washing the hands but not making offering; there is a return with head held high.
12.4 Ritsema/Karcher: Possessing fate, without fault. Cultivating radiant satisfaction.
I must continue my life without him and accept whatever the fate wants.

It's really important this question to me.
 

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