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I had a relationship with him over a year three years ago. After the break-up we would not speak to each other very often but we did not lose contact either. In fact, immediately after splitting up we had some heated arguments but things calmed down eventually. So, that is the scenario.
Because I am back to the UK we have started talking more often again but only on a friendship basis. I asked the Ching.

1. How will this relationship develop in the short term?
Hex 15 with 6th moving line

2. What will this relationship be like at the end of 2007?
Hex 7 with 2nd and 6th

Neither of them seem very romantic :eek: or promising :confused:

Could you please share some ideas?
 

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I will attempt to comment on hexagram 15, and I have found from my experience is it is telling one to not get overly emotional, have a rather neutral stance. For example, I was feeling really angry with the man I love last night, and I did not see him, but its probably good because if I had said what I was feeling or anything like it, it would not have been good for the relationship. It might have felt good for the moment but it would not further it, in fact I think I would do the opposite. And I asked the Y how to deepen my relationship with him and I got 15.1 > 63. Which is being modest and being modest about the fact I am being modest. Not an easy way of being for me at times when I feel like that. So I would see line 6 as saying being very disciplined about maintaining neutral words and stance around that person.

Those are my ideas but I am pretty new at interpreting.
 

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To me it looks like you have an honest relationship (15) - maybe you want more but if you can value this for what it truly is right now then still it is a good relationship


Your second question gives the idea of this as a project you are in a sense working on - maybe that is not quite the right way of putting it but hex 7 shows an organised proceeding towards a goal and I have often found this applies to relationships as much as anything except we aren't always consciously aware we have a goal as such.
Hmmm the relating hexagram is 23 (stripping away) so I'm wondering if you do have this aim to deepen the relationship it does look somewhat ill fated. Yet the individual lines in hex 7 don't exactly shout 'give up all hope'.

Hmm still my feeling is you will be happier in the long run if you can be happy appreciating things as they are now rather than hoping for more . I agree with your assessment really, though I think what you have now is likley very genuine.

Hopefully others will give their views too - I'm not so sure of my take on this, its just an impression.

(If hex 23 is taken as the backdrop for the query it may just indicate the period where thing fell apart for you in the past, not sure..so hope others will chip in )
 
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Skipper, I think that what you said about Hex 15.6 rings true since I tend to feel rather emotional about this relationship, which was quite a passionate one in the past. We had strong feelings for each other and the break-up did not go on friendly terms. I was a foreigner is his country, my visa had expired... To cut a long story short, it does make sense that the Y might be saying that I should have a more neutral view on the situation as it is right now.

Trojan, I totally agree on Hex 7 being applied to relationships as much as anything else. Well, it might seem odd since strategy has nothing to do with neither love nor romance. At least it shouldn't have. But in a sense I might have been 'constructing' in my mind the idea that a relationship which fell apart could be put together again, even though without consciously taking any steps to make that happen. I must confess that I am not completely happy with this 'friendship basis' but if you asked me I would say that it is not realistic to consider it otherwise.

Thank you both for your helpful thoughts.:bows:

Well, I am still brooding over the sixth moving line:

" The topmost 6, divided, shows the great ruler delivering his charges, (appointing some) to be rulers of states, and others to undertake the headship of clans; but small men should not be employed (in such positions)."
 

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To be honest I did initially see the readings a different way. Looking at the whole picture 15.6 then 7.2 & 6 I thought this might be an encouragement for you to take the initiative a little if you want this relationship to deepen - hmm but the relating 23 threw me a bit . Re strategy actually i think noone likes to admit how much strategy is actually employed in love and romance issues, everyone wants it to be spontaneous but look at all the novels, take Jane Austen for example, nothing but strategy - 'the course of true love never did run smooth'.

Maybe you should ask something along the lines of 'what if i actively pursue this ?' well in your own words of course :D and then 'what if i settle for it as it is ?' and compare answers. Both your questions were a little fatalistic, you asked what would happen not what was the best course of action for you. Nothing wrong with that except maybe what you do here is quite important, maybe its not just in the hands of the gods - 15.6 made me think that


See I don't know if these readings encourage you be a little bold (15.6 does seem to ) and try to get the relationship further or not - I find the answers quite ambiguous and erred on the side of caution. Of course if you have a gut feeling about which way this goes you are most likley right.

Re 7.6 i find it a difficult line but I think its about what happens once the battle is fought and won - giving each thing/person its due according to how it has performed ( how to apply that to a relationship beats me )

Sorry if I'm confusing you more than helping :eek:
 
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Well, you did not confuse me, quite the opposite, you have helped me think. Since I have run out of questions to pose the Y :eek: I actually asked what you had suggested.

What if I actively pursue this relationship?
Hex 64.6

Well, after this I could do nothing but draw a couple more to make sure what message the Y is putting across.

What are his feelings towards me?
Hex 7.2

What is his decision about our relationship?
Hex 40.2

To be honest, now I am really confused :rofl: The thing is, I do not believe that he is interested in getting us back together. I think that it is out of question that he might still have any feelings towards me.

So, at the moment I am trying to interpret the reading in a way that would confirm that.:D
 

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What if I actively pursue this relationship?
Hex 64.6

Well, after this I could do nothing but draw a couple more to make sure what message the Y is putting across.

What are his feelings towards me?
Hex 7.2

What is his decision about our relationship?
Hex 40.2

To be honest, now I am really confused :rofl: The thing is, I do not believe that he is interested in getting us back together. I think that it is out of question that he might still have any feelings towards me.

So, at the moment I am trying to interpret the reading in a way that would confirm that.:D
:rofl: yes I'm confused too. Hmm so if you actively pursue the relationship you'll feel a cause to celebrate but don't let it go to your head or forget the mistakes that led to previous breakups between you. His feelings to you 7.2 :confused: uum actively involved with you ? His decision about the relationship 40.2 well a sense of happiness and release after tension through dealing with nasty problems (foxes) that were hindering him/you - or i guess if he really is out of the relationship for good he feels hes solved some problems that it gave him.

Could be confusing in that maybe the Yi indicates this is a good relationship even if not romantic ..... I dunno what to think, clearly you are interested in going further with him, maybe his feelings aren't as cut and dried as you think - maybe thats why the Yi doesn't seem to give a straight answer. Maybe you could rekindle his feelings if you worked at it, 7 does seem to be coming up a few times. I'm glad you seem very realistic about all this cos i hate to encourage hope in readings if there isn't any - but here again i don't know if there is or there isn't - maybe he doesn't even know what he feels (yet) :mischief: perhaps he needs reminding of your wonderfulness, maybe more of this :flirt: maybe hes forgotten what hes missing
 
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mirian

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Hello,

I thought that I should just let you know how things have actually developed since I asked the Y about the relationship.

Well, to recap the sequence of questions:

1. How will this relationship develop in the short term?
Hex 15 with 6th moving line

2. What will this relationship be like at the end of 2007?
Hex 7 with 2nd and 6th

3. What if I actively pursue this relationship?
Hex 64.6

4. What are his feelings towards me?
Hex 7.2

5. What is his decision about our relationship?
Hex 40.2

So, I decided to be a little bit bolder instead of just waiting things to happen. I called him a couple of times and his response was very positive. He has called me as well and we have agreed that we could spend a weekend together –as friends- to catch up on things (that would be the first time that we would see each other after the break-up).
Our communication has also become a lot better.
However, it is still clear to me that he intends to keep the “friendship basis”. Would I prefer something else? Of course, but I do want to jeopardise what we have now and I do not want us to lose each other again.

Yes, Trojan, you were right, the relationship that I have with him is genuine even though is no longer romantic and perhaps the Y has not given a straight answer because it simply does not exist at the moment. And yes, maybe his feelings are not as dried as he tries to make them appear.

Well, I think that the reading has shown exactly what is possible up to now. From now on time will tell ;)
I felt encouraged by the reading and changed things a bit. Or perhaps it was the other way round :)
 

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Hi Mirian I really appreciate you letting us know how things are turning out so far. It does sound good he was pleased to hear from you and called you back and so on, as you say time will tell if it will go further but its clear he values your relationship anyway :)
 

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