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Hey everyone,

I’m a newbie with the Iching and currently try to study and understand it more day by day.

I’m struggling with the tossing I recently had, regarding my past love relationship. I had a very intense relation with this girl I met two years ago, to my mind it was very special and mutual. But she was also struggling with mental illness which quite ruined her a few months ago. She decided to leave me and isolate in order to cure herself, saying she would never be the same again (also left her appartment, guessing she went to her family). Unfortunately I had no contact with her ever since.

I really miss this special bond we had, and asked the Iching yesterday to show me the common future I could have with her, if any at all. Got the hex 50 without changing line, and don’t quite understand how to interpret it.
Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks folks :)
 
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Hi FlyKg
I really miss this special bond we had, and asked the Iching yesterday to show me the common future I could have with her, if any at all. Got the hex 50 without changing line, and don’t quite understand how to interpret it.
Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks folks :)
The 'common future' shown by Hex 50 is based in the idea that the greatest good fortune comes to you from 'Establishing the New'. It advocates, in the image, that you rectify your position in order to fulfill the will of heaven, which by extension invites you to let go of what you would will to happen in the future.

50 is nuclear powered by hexagram 43 'Eliminating', So again saying at a deeper level that your will is not something to adhere to and that the common future is one of each of you going gracefully your own way with Heaven's Blessing.

... of course, there may be other ways in which you you would prefer to view your consultation.

Good Luck
 

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I’m seeing The Ting here as representing a giant soup tureen holding all of us suggesting we’re all in this lifetime together, and thus we all share a common future. Not an image of a shared personal future but still a good omen for feeling your time together was positive or at least to view this separation as not anyone’s “fault” but simply as a part of life.
 

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Hi FlyKg

The 'common future' shown by Hex 50 is based in the idea that the greatest good fortune comes to you from 'Establishing the New'. It advocates, in the image, that you rectify your position in order to fulfill the will of heaven, which by extension invites you to let go of what you would will to happen in the future.

50 is nuclear powered by hexagram 43 'Eliminating', So again saying at a deeper level that your will is not something to adhere to and that the common future is one of each of you going gracefully your own way with Heaven's Blessing.

... of course, there may be other ways in which you you would prefer to view your consultation.

Good Luck
Thanks for you answer my_key,

I must admit, it is not the interpretation I hoped for but maybe the one I needed to read. I guess you’re right, I might need to let go of this relationship, even though it’s not what I deeply crave.

May I ask how the nuclear hexagramm influences the tossing? I mean, I’m aware the initially tossed hexagramm represents the energy flow in which we currently find ourselves, but what’s the exact role of the nuclear one? And the transformed one if there’s any?

I really wish there’s a common path still ahead for the two of us, maybe just as friends. But I guess there’s no way to be sure and if I learned anything from my modest life experience, the Wu-Wei approach to such things remains the best way to go.
 

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I’m seeing The Ting here as representing a giant soup tureen holding all of us suggesting we’re all in this lifetime together, and thus we all share a common future. Not an image of a shared personal future but still a good omen for feeling your time together was positive or at least to view this separation as not anyone’s “fault” but simply as a part of life.
Thanks for your answer rosada,

Sure the common time together was splendid, and that’s something I’ll always cherish in my heart, but on the other hand her condition was a real obstacle for the both of us. I do hope she’ll get better with time, but I still secretly nourish a common future together.. my own reading of the Ting let me a bit confused on that point, I mean you can interpret it really in different ways, that’s the reason why I posted here. Both you answers gave me an insight I didn’t get so far, which I now need to integrate and hopefully which help me accept this situation.
 

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I can see this hexagram also saying consider your time together as sacred like the offering in The Ting and therefore you can feel assured you weren’t mistaken in your feeling that time was special. Very special. Maybe God just slipped in this moment for the two of you to keep her nourished while she goes through this next most likely difficult stage of her journey. She’ll be able to think of you and be strengthened. And for you, rather than giving the usual advice like “Try to forget her” I see with 50. The IChing is saying ”Treasure the memory.”
 
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Hi FlyKg-
Thanks for you answer my_key,
You are welcome. My pleasure.
I must admit, it is not the interpretation I hoped for but maybe the one I needed to read. I guess you’re right, I might need to let go of this relationship, even though it’s not what I deeply crave.
Remember, for even the slightest, remotest, infinitely small chance of something being able to return to a common path it must first be let go. Wandering from any path is the only way that allows for arrival at a point from which return is at all possible.

May I ask how the nuclear hexagramm influences the tossing? I mean, I’m aware the initially tossed hexagramm represents the energy flow in which we currently find ourselves, but what’s the exact role of the nuclear one? And the transformed one if there’s any?
Others may have different perspectives on these key tools that can be used to enrich any divination message.

Nuclear trigrams reside at the core of the primary hexagram. As you see the primary hexagram as energy flow within a situation you might like to see the nuclear as the unseen, subtle essence that sparks and fuels the flow energy along the path of the primary hexagram . It can also be recognised as the underlying colour, flavour or vibration e.g 'Establishing the New' emanates from, is stimulated by, and its waves fused and guided by / from a deeper sense or higher vibration of 'Eliminating'.

The secondary, transformed hexagram or relating hexagram can mean various things depending on the situation and the question. It's meaning or what it represents, within these broad brush boundaries, lies wholly in the hands of the querent: there is no right or wrong.

It can speak to the outcome of the situation or be viewed as the setting, the background, the circumstances, the sea that the question swims in, the blanket it is wrapped in, the colour of the filter it is best viewed through and much more besides.

You can even develop your own themes of understanding over time and experience. If it resonates with you, then it is right for you. Trust what speaks to you in any reading and go with that flow.

Good Luck
 
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You might get something out of this blog post by Hilary.
The more the merrier. If that happens, rather than hijacking the thread, though, it might be worth admin moving it to a new thread in ED. These are important concepts to explore and understand what are the rich diversities of meaning that are open for embrace.

Would greatly welcome your contribution too, Hans.
 

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