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i chaching

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Hi! This is my first post. I have been appreciative of this forum's advice, and want to thank you in advance for listening to my questions here.

My relationship has "ended" (nothing really ends, though) due to a physical obstruction that has impeded our intimacy for basically the whole year and a half that we were together. I agree with the Taoist belief that sexual oppression for a woman is unhealthy, because I could see it was slowly tearing her down mentally over time. And now she has entered a new relationship (6 weeks after ours "ended"). And I don't blame her. She needs the sexual therapy, and I'm glad she's getting it (I'm not saying it's easy for me, I just feel that this is the most rational response for me). I also have finally found therapy (our break-up allowed me to be fully open to finally finding the right treatments), and I have been seeing steady progress. I am convinced that I will be a new man in due time, and so is my NAET practitioner (as an aside, I had enlisted the help of western doctors all throughout my relationship, but they were not able to help much at all).

I followed the advice in the Blog post: Advice for relationship readings o this website, and asked the i ching 3 different questions. First I asked "What difference would it make if I actively love her back to me over time?" and got Hex 8.4.5 > 16. The second question was "How do I feel about actively loving her back to me over time?" and got hex 59.2.4.6 > 45. The third question I asked was "After I announce that I'm healed, what are the prospects that she will feel like coming back to me over time?" And I got Hex 59.2 > 20. How interesting that when I asked the two questions about our feelings, we both got 59.2 as part of our readings!?

All of these readings make sense to me. For instance, hex 8's message "prepare in a timely manner," and hex 59 "open up. liberate," say to me to keep up with the Naet tretments and heal. Line 59.2 "free of insincerity. ready to love;" hex 59.4 "Difficulties can be resolved. Love is in reach;" 8.5 "Allow her enough room;" and 8.4 "after union is established, show attachment openly" all indicate the period following the healing, and what I would need to do to get her back. And the changing hex's: 16 (enthusiasm), 45 (Sharing Spirituality. Gathering with an intimate partner in spiritual connection) both indicate how I need to be after letting her know i have been healed, and what will happen in that time period. Then we reach the question about her feelings on the matter. 59.2>20: Opening up, liberating (once I liberate my physical problems, she will open up to me); free of insincerity (I will be free of my blockages, and she will want to leave her current relationship & come back to me); Contemplating (but she probably won't fully come back to me right away. She will need time to really think about the situation: "will he have this problem again?" might be a fear that she will need to contemplate. or, there could be something else, some other issue that she needs to get past first.

Sounds like I might have these readings all figured out. But i want to see if anybody has any more input. I would enjoy hearing other opinions and viewpoints on the matter. I'm especially looking for opinions on the answer to the question about her feelings (59.2>20), in particular the changing hexagram 20.

Thanks in advance!
Namaste!
 
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Hi,

In my experience Iching won't answer what another's experience or feelings are. Its like spying on someone and doesn't really go along with the ways of nature. Even if you take a guess, it's only a guess and not secure enough to use as guidance or direction. I'm very sorry you are going through this. So sorry its struck a cord in me and I was having a very hard time being objective and unattached to your situation or reading. So I will give you the knowledge or insight I do have that is not
biased that may be of some help. Then
perhaps another reader can give you
additional assistance in your interpretation.
Although the reading can tell you what
direction you should take or guide you on the
most auspicious attitude or action to have
now. It is usually, speaking of now. Its
speaking to you, through you about your
situation now. Although 8 seems like a good
reading to get for your questions, I think most
of the answers may be pointing to your
medical condition and your getting assistance
with that and recovery. Not so much to her.
There are a few warnings in there as well.
When I have more time and feel more
grounded with this I will explain in depth what
I see in the hexagrams and lines. Take it easy.

Blue_Angel
 
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Blue_Angel, I'm sorry to hear that this struck a chord in you as well, and that you were so affected. If you have gone through the same thing that I went through, I hope that you have fully recovered, or that you are on the road to recovery. What I have found out about myself is that I had multiple allergies and sensitivities to the foods I eat and the environment I live in. And that had suppressed my immune system so much that, in turn, it affected my sexual function. But with NAET, your brain is told to remove the block so that you are no longer allergic to these things. You do not have to avoid your allergens after they are cleared. And some were completely unknown to me. For instance, sugar... I had a huge problem with all sugars, even the sugars found in potatoes. Once sugar was cleared, not only could I eat sugar again with no problem, but also my immune system was freed up so much that now I don't even have to take antihistamines for my seasonal allergies (and we are right in the midst of the fall allergy season - I sleep with my windows open and I take NO medicine anymore! It only took 1 treatment to get to that point!!) So what NAET does is rid the body of inflammation problems, basically. So not only are my allergies cleared up, but my frequent nighttime urination problem has completely ceased (I had the problem for over 1.5 years. It went away 4 nights ago, after 3 weeks)! My sexual function is coming back little by little, too. I feel that it is only a matter of time before I have that back, and better than ever.

Anyway, back to the i ching. After reading your input and rereading all the hexagrams, maybe it is me who needs to contemplate more about getting back together? I did not mention yet that her and I have an age difference. It was not a factor in our day to day relations at all. But she did tell me that the more she worried about my physical problems, the more it made her worry about our age difference and the fact that she wants to be fair to our future kids. So the question is, is it fair to her and our kids? The fact is that I feel it is not "fair" to call me by my chronological age. Most people swear I look 15 years younger, and don't even believe me when I tell them my chronological age. I am in better shape than most people who are years younger than me. I have an impeccable diet, and am very active and positive. And especially after these treatments, I think I will live a very long and healthy life. I know there is no guarantee to that, but there's no guarantee that she will outlive me, either. So basically, I will listen to hex 8.5 and allow her enough room to decide for herself. As I mentioned, she said that she never worried about our age difference until she worried about my physical problems. Once those are gone, I am hoping that the age worry will disappear just like my allergy symptoms are disappearing.
 
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Ok, I asked two more questions of the i ching.

What are the prospects that our age difference should be the reason to keep us apart?
Hex 5.3.4.5>54

What are the prospects that our age difference will not keep us from having a successful romantic relationship? Hex 23.1>27
 

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What is NAET? Do you go to see a practitioner?
 

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It's awesome! NAET is mostly practiced by acupuncturists, acupressurists, and chiropractors.

The practitioner uses neuromuscular sensitivity testing to diagnose allergens (for me, the test was way more informative than the skin scratch test). Then, pressure points along the spine are stimulated from the neck to the sacrum, while the patient is holding an allergen. The patient is then tested for the allergen again. If the allergen has been cleared from the patient, specific acupressure points are then massaged. After that, the patient needs to continue holding the allergen for 20 more minutes. The allergen must then be completely avoided for 25 hours following the treatment. After that, you do not have to avoid the allergen anymore! Up until now, the only other option was complete avoidance of the allergen, which can be difficult and sometimes impossible. But now you can resume (or start) eating gluten, dairy, sugar, eggs, peanuts, or whatever allergen you have been cleared of with no reaction whatsoever, because your brain has told your cells that there is no longer a need to react. It basically tells your system that there was never a need to react, so stop reacting. Your brain agrees, informs all of your cells of it's mistake, clears up any symptom that allergy caused in you, and allows you to eat the foods you were once allergic to, or breathe in that pollen you were once allergic to, with no allergic reaction whatsoever.

Even my practitioner said "it shouldn't be this easy, should it?" But it is, and it totally freaking works! And btw, I do not stand to make any money from this. I also typed the above info from the brochure I got form my practitioners office, and added a few words of my own.

http://www.naet.com/
 
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Hi,

Thank you for sharing your information with us. I was hoping, and I am still hoping Ginnie, or any of the other senior members would give their insight. I'm not confident in my reading on this one. I thought I was and turns I'm not, not for this one. Also, my pm is not allowing me to reply at this time, sorry. But I will give this a shot, if for no other reason than to get you the assistance you are asking for.

"What difference would it make if I actively loved her back to me?"
Answer 8.4.5>16

To me its a good, auspicious answer, but not necessarily for what you want.
8- to me is not much of a romance/relationship hexagram. Its more of a union between family members, employer and employees, or close Dr and patient relationship. 8 calls for you to ask again regarding this, which you did, so your next reading will be important, and will give you more clarity. This way you will know if you are capable of going through with this. 8 also warns not to be late. So this is something I would say you need to act on right away. But first lets see what all the answers give you.

Line 4- I read as, you seeking outside help, which you are. Both with NAET and here with the Iching. I can also read it as you supporting her going on with another man. It seems like the line is nothing more than a reflection and says this is good by you.

Line 5- seems to say as you stated above. So yes, if she doesn't want to get back together or she puts up any resistance, let her go. But I can also read it as, you need to reach out to her, allow her the option of being apart of this healing process. Tell her about it. You need to do this before its too late, it may even be saying its too late already, but you wont know until you contact her. I wouldn't hold off. Depending of course what these other readings say...

16- you are excited because you've come across this new cure and there's a possibility of reuniting with her. But loving her back to you is doubtful and unpredictable.

I will write on the next reading shortly. Hopefully someone else will dive in with their take.

Blue_Angel
 
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"How do I feel about actively loving her back to me over time?" Answer 59.2.4.6>45 I would say the answer shows you have mixed feelings.

59- you feel your relationship dissolving. You consider what would be the right thing to do for everyone involved and you contemplate. So you are following the middle path, which is good but "you need to cross the great river" what is the great river? I would say contacting her and finding out if there is a possibility, if she would be there to support you through this, and if it works, as it seems to be now, if she would be willing to give it another go.

Line 2- you feel you can do this, be healed, and have your woman.

Line 3- you worry if she will be supportive, and if it will work.

Line 6- you feel cautious and a need to protect yourself. You have doubts, you don't know if its a good idea.

45- you are pulling yourself together, gathering all you can, to make this possible.

I would ask the Iching the big question here. Something like "how should I proceed towards (name)? Or "what is the potential for (name) and I reuniting?" The thing is, she's already started another relationship. That's all I will say. I really don't want to give any of my opinions because they may be seen or felt as negative. I do not want to give a biased reading. It is my hope every time I help interpret a reading that I am able to give what the Iching is actually saying to the individual and not what I want to say. I wish you the best in your healing and your search.

Blue_Angel
 

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Thank you Blue Angel! Those questions really helped put my mind back in the moment.
 

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First I asked "What difference would it make if I actively love her back to me over time?" and got Hex 8.4.5 > 16.
I take it to mean that the best leaders let people go when they want to go . . . Along with that, wait for her to come to you. This does not seem auspicious for a romantic relationship (as Blue_Angel wrote above) but rather for the both of you joining a group of some kind. I say that because the yang pattern here is 45, and you also got a hex 45 as the relating hexagram for your second reading. That could indicate membership in a group, or maybe the 45's indicate the process of your getting yourself together through the naet therapy. You are pinning a lot of high hopes on this form of therapy and I hope your expectations are fulfilled. Wishing you all the best ...
 
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I also seen the group factor as Ginnie stated, I just didn't know how that related for you. I see it in both 8 and 45.
 

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Well, it's almost 5 years after originally posting and going through all this. And I can tell you now that yes, I did have mixed feelings about getting back together with her. I had mixed feelings even while we were going out. In fact, I knew we needed to break up and even slightly encouraged her to break up!! I knew that if I was the one that broke up, that it just might create some kind of ego thing in her and she might want me back for no good reason. That is not unheard of. Well, you wouldn't be able to tell that from all the frantic threads I posted about wanting (needing) her back because the opposite actually happened: my ego ended up wanting her back! And I think that, combined with 1.5 years of barely sleeping, and my physical problems, probably made me seem like a madman to everybody that read my threads! Also, the "groups" thing came up a lot... I am thinking that would pertain to the fact that we both are really into music and playing music and being in bands. And that we might run into each other that way. We actually haven't. I haven't seen her since about 8 weeks after the break up.
 

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