Hexagram 48.2.6 changing to 53

[bea123]

Hi guys, has anyone had any experience with 48.2.6 to 53 in relationship questions, questioning ones feelings towards you?

As I'm asking about someone else's feelings how does one interpret the moving lines, as an advice for him (eg. in my case I think line 2 might indicate that he doesn't yet fully recognise what I consider as my true qualities i.e. spiritual, adventurous etc. and concentrates on quite shallow aspects and he's not opening up and just ensures that he supports me financially) or for me? Line 6 seems very positive though and 53 indicates that there will be eventual gradual progress towards the right thing so am I right to interpret it as some work needs to be done here but overall there is a potential for true love? (from the negative line 2 to more positive line 6 ending up in gradual progress - i.e. him starting to see the real me and starting to love me trully without any baggage and restrictions?

 

[bea123]

Anyone can help...?

 

[yly2pg1]

... from the negative line 2 to more positive line 6 ending up in gradual progress - i.e. him starting to see the real me and starting to love me trully without any baggage and restrictions?

To make sure you are a willing spring water that is ready for real love, be slow and steady first. And good luck!

 

[bea123]

Amazing, a whole 3 months after the above reading I have recently had an argument with my boyfriend over his high expectations he has towards me (eg. looking after his kids, being there for him all the time etc.) but leaving me in the unknown about my own needs (I want to start a family of my own). I feel like I've lost my independence but have not gained the security that a good partner should provide. I asked a question what I should do to improve this current situation (following the argument) and got again the same answer, Hex 48 followed by 53. I am obviously given a strong message here, can anyone shed some light on any possible interpretations? Yly2pg1, you were most probably right in your original answer, I'm probably just scared to be a WILLING spring water as I'm scared of being taken advantage of... Any comments highly appreciated!!

 

[bruce]

How deep is your love? Is this a journey you wish to travel for the long haul?

 

[bea123]

I definitely love him but as someone once said loving is not looking into each other's eyes but looking in the same direction. We both come from broken families and are both quite complex people. When we first met I thought we want the same thing, something we have always lacked and that is a warm secure home and a family. He was already married before and his wife left him 5 years ago, leaving him devastated. Now that we've been living together a year he is not sure if he wants to start a family again as he has 2 kids already and is thinking of moving abroad (for tax purposes so he says) in a few months time for a couple of years. He says that eventually he will buy a house and MAYBE then we can think of having a child but I get a feeling sometimes that he says it because that's what I want to hear (I'm 34 he's 44). I just don't know any more. Is one supposed to love unconditionally, no matter what? In answer to your question Bruce, I am prepared to go through good and bad with him, be there for him always and stick by him but our life's goal has to be the same and I'm just not sure if it is. Am I wasting my time here? Is this love then if I have all these questions? Maybe he does mean what he says and he is just being very cautious and afraid of being hurt again and taking things slowly? Maybe we are both just two people petrified of getting hurt as we have had very bad experiences (I saw my mother's life deteriorate in an unhappy marriage, he's also been badly hurt by both his mother and then ex-wife) or maybe he is just using me.. Does love mean trusting someone with your life unconditionally? I'm scared I will make the same mistake as my mother... Maybe his plan of moving abroad is a way of escaping the committment? On one hand I don't want to push him but on the other hand I really need to know where I stand.

We are actually on holiday at the moment in Spain with his children and my head is full to the brim of all these questions... I guess he feels I've grown a little more distant (especially after the argument) and I know it upsets him...

 

[bruce]

Hi Bea,

My question wasn't so much mine but how I interpret your reading. A tough question sometimes requires another tough question to be asked before an answer can come to light.

I wouldn't anticipate a 'clean' answer to this because it's a messy thing you're dealing with; full of complexities of feelings, wishes and reality. I don't think there's an easy answer, and I expect that Yi agrees.

Off Yi for second. Unhappy relationships seem to be the norm. Maybe something's wrong with our culture?s way of seeking love. Maybe arranged marriages actually worked better. I don't know. But I know there's many compromising relationships going on in our modern society. Maybe we as people are too needy, or we yield to loneliness too easily. Maybe we're all just very spoiled with modern conveniences and seek an instant feel better fix a little too often.

Sorry if I?ve strayed off your question. It?s a complex matter, relationships. I don?t believe that Yi makes those decisions for us, but perhaps it can ask the right questions of us. Then we can answer our own questions better.

I wish you the best.

Bruce

 

[waveringdragon]

it pains me a little to see people asking questions by which they intend to gain insight into others because i know from my own experience with the i ching that it is not always the right thing to do, so i am going to ask you before you ask such a question again to ask the i ching for guidance on asking such a question,
48.2.6 to 53,
48 to me is relative to depth of being, the innermost nature of humanity, it also at times represents developing that inner being, developing depth of being, it also at times represents learning the i ching but more than that it represents learning from the i ching, all these meanings are interrelative,
it is very easy at times to take the stop/go, yes/no guidance from the i ching and act accordingly but there is always more to it than that, there is understanding to be gleaned from understanding why you should stop or go, this is the true guidance than is inherant within the i ching,
to me this is what line 2 is very much about, one is neglecting one's education/inner development, you are a good person but you are neglecting your good side,
what i have found very much to be true is this, as i learn and develop with the help of the guidance i receive from the i ching people react to me and allow themselves to be influenced by me according to the better person that i am, as i develop things fall into place about me,
if i received this reading i would know that i had stopped learning/developing, and the i received it only last week, and the i ching would be urging me to start learning/developing again,
it is a slow process, it is a lifetime process and if you are like me sometimes you have to learn the same lesson a good number of times before it actually sinks in, but what the i ching would also be saying to me in this reading is it is a slow process because i am neglecting it,
very often with 48.2 there is one distinct lesson to be learned,
some tips on interpreting readings,
never interpret a reading from point of view of self, your ego will always lead and in the most subtle ways, always interpret the readings objectively, think of yourself as person A and interpret the readings in terms of this what the i ching is saying person A should be/do, never do too many readings within a short space of time, always try and give yourself the time to understand why person A should be/do this and if you can try and give yourself the time to grasp the eternal laws that guide all the guidance that the i ching dispenses and if you like try and understand the nature of eternal law and it's role within the scheme of things, but if you want to do that then you might have to forget about relationships : ),
it never matters where other people are at, if you are in the right place within yourself they will recognise that in you and they will meet you there, what is right is so axiomatic people just gravitate towards it, it's sort of an eternal law, if people are'nt gravitating to where you are at then maybe you need to be educating yourself a bit,
line 6 is about influencing people through what you learn, it can be a slow process too but you will have the inner understanding, steadfastness and goodness of being to bear with it,
hope this helps,
all the best,
paul

 

[luz]

Thanks, Dragon, on your tips on interpreting a reading. I'm sure they will be very helpful for many people..

Bruce, I've thought for a while now that arranged marriages are far superior. But too bad, so sad, not in this culture! I know I would love to pick my kids' spouses!

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Some tough issue, some tough questions!
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Wow. I guess so. If you have a choice. Otherwise, why bother? it's all so messy. But! be aware of what it means in your case (and in anybody's case, really), what unconditionally means. It means it's okay even if he is using you. Which is kind of liberating, because there is no real way to know... anyway, that's what I think.

 

[luz]

But! to clarify, I don't think loving unconditionally means giving up your person and/or your goals and desires. It only means not worrying about whether they deserve your love or not.

And, as far a having children.. I think that they are sort or predestined... they will happen if they are meant to happen...

 

[yly2pg1]

011010(48)
010001(4)
------
001011(53)

[Entropy reduce from 48->4->53]

 

[yly2pg1]

The mirror image:

100101(21)
101110(49)
---------
001011(53)
111111(filter)
---------
110100(54)

[entropy reduce from 21->49->54]

 

[yly2pg1]

Your Tao is in 53.
Proceed gradually and slowly.
Do not take in too much tasks yet, but keep your friend understand your willingness when time come (and when your doubts are cleared so that you are fully prepared to do so).


Looking at 53, we can further reduce 53 into:

001001(52)- stop and ponder / discernment
000010(8) - seeking alliance
---------
001011(53)

The process of 53 involves proper discernment of the situations. Seeking alliance requires finding rooms and task for each other. Harmony is upmost important that is to be protected. So, Yi advise you to proceed slowly so that both you and your friend can adapt to this new arrangement with proper considerations. The end is the usher of the marrying of maiden (54).

 

[peace]

Bea 123,

Let him go and read the book - He's Just Not That Into You.

Stop giving yourself away! You're available....it's easy for him. He does what he wants.

Sorry if this sounds harsh - You'll find someone better for you or spend the time alone you need to develop your self.

Peace

 

[stuart]

I think the reading suggests someone who has hidden himself away emotionally.This person has much to offer but maybe they are fearful of commitment.At some time in the future they will gradually become trusting and restore their fatih in relationships.I do not think this person can hide away from the world and its problems forever.If you stick it through i think gradually things will move in the right direction.

 

[jte]

"48.2.6 to 53"

Looking at the moving lines as two different aspects of the same situation:

- perhaps line 6 represents the positive, "fulfilled" aspects of the relationship, like the being together, caring for the kids, etc.

Line 2 represents the "unfulfilled" aspects - the emotional intimacy/trust/commitment that are lacking.

Given that view, then yes I'd say, 53 is advice to gradually work on that aspect of the relationship.

- Jeff

 

[bea123]

Guys, your comments, as always, have been great and really helped. Since I discovered this site I alwyas feel I can count on your help with interpretation and moral support. Really much appreciated.

I think that the majority of responses suggest gradually working towards better results (53), but I think everyone's comment bears some truth of my current situation. Loved Bruce's comment about relationships in general and living in times of instant gratification, very true. Yly2pg1, your comments now and in the past have always been very positive or at least always trying to give a positive aspect to the reading (which I love, I'm the type of a person who will only watch films with a happy ending.... Jeff and Stuart alwyas down to the point and spot on. Peace, your note has actually made me laugh, there is definitely a side of me that wants to do very that.

Will see what happens over the next few weeks/months, I think by March next year (his planned time of departure from UK) everything should become much more clear. And if anything comes up in the meantime I will definitely keep you updated!

Bea