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I have gotten hexagram 23 many times lately. I asked what is collapsing? I received hex 7 unchanging.

I also got many responses with 19 in them, so I asked "What is approaching?" I received hex 7 unchanging.

What am I supposed to be doing? 18.6 > 46.

This impels me to come over here to share my understanding of (or rather, my confusion about) about hex 7 unchanging.

R.L. Wing says of 7uc: "Be open now and generous toward the feelings and needs of others. In this way you align yourself with humanity and increase your energies and resources."

Whereas another interpretation runs more along these lines: Become physically strong and mentally agile ... to be in a position to tell them all, the little interferers, to go straight to Hades.

Shall I take up karate or kick boxing? I'm only kidding. Obviously, this is a serious question.

How do you usually interpret 7 unchanging? :)
 

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Be resourceful, adaptable, allied with others, instructed by experience,
ready to play the hand you are dealt. Unlike the army, the militia disappears
back into the populace when that is what the time calls for.
 

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Be resourceful, adaptable, allied with others, instructed by experience,
ready to play the hand you are dealt. Unlike the army, the militia disappears
back into the populace when that is what the time calls for.

Thank you for this, Bradford. What amazing succinctness. I'm going to carry it around with me.

Quite a lot of hex 25 around here lately, and how can I be the only one experiencing unexpected, out-of-the-blue occurrences?

I hear that astrologically speaking almost the entire month of August will be terrible for communications, traveling, computer crashes; a Mercury Retrograde period. For me it started yesterday, as I have a couple of Gemini acquaintances who were losing their patience already.

Count our change and inquire if our mail was delivered. Eat less and go outside more to exercise in the sunlight. Back away from trouble rather than getting entangled in it. Be more alert and -- I am including this just for myself: Don't take personally anything people say.
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I often see 7 in anticipation of a challenging day at work. (A "day" can stretch to 36+ hrs, eating on the run and cat-napping.) It acts as a reminder not to get emotionally involved, do what needs to be done, don't get caught up in the drama of others. An expression that gets passed around among theater techs: "It may be your baby, but it's just another show to me" keeps the situation in perspective. Usually...
 

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I see 7 as a campaign of some kind, having the attitude of campaigne to something even romance. Suprising how often it comes up in unrequited love questions.

Someone somewhere also relates it to grief

I feel it can also relate to goals of large organisations , governments depts etc
 

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New at contributing and not a succinct as Bradley, but some attributes I've written for myself to focus on when having gotten 7 are generosity, enthusiasm, definite aim, and improve economic condition.
 
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I have gotten hexagram 23 many times lately. I asked what is collapsing? I received hex 7 unchanging.

I also got many responses with 19 in them, so I asked "What is approaching?" I received hex 7 unchanging.

What am I supposed to be doing? 18.6 > 46.

Can this be saying to disband the army/militia, or a defensive position, the need to hold your ground, and instead raise your view of your service toward heaven?
 

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An expression that gets passed around among theater techs: "It may be your baby, but it's just another show to me" keeps the situation in perspective. Usually...

Yeah, I really get what you're saying, Elias.
 

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Thanks Bradford, Trojan, Iams, Elias and Soooo

There are a number of aspects to 7.

There's the crowd mentality. I once went to the movies with someone, and he got to talking enthusiastically with people in the line. The line started to move. He walked along with the crowd right into the wrong movie theater, and he didn't realize his mistake until 20 minutes later. But anybody can be prey to the herd mentality, to doing what everybody else is doing. And that person, of course, could be ME.

Then there's the rational way that military operations are run. For example, Napoleon in his conquests built roads and put numbers on houses so that mail could be delivered. Did he invent the concept of the postal service? I don't know. Anyway, military people are not interested in complicated theories. They find a simpler way.

Use of force. If too much force is used, someone might destroy something.


Underground water.
Flooding. That sort of thing. That's a strong possibility.

Self-discipline.
Get things cleaned out. Be prepared.

Learning to get along with people.
This could be the crux of the matter for me. A lot of us were raised with very high standards. If a mistake has been made, for example, a person made the error and it's the person who is important, not the error. To see the people and overlook any errors; setting a goal of seeing what's right with people, not what's wrong with them.


Getting clearer on what the purpose is.
I've been going in literally five directions at once lately. I need to think about what direction I'm going in. Where am I going? What am I trying to accomplish? What can I accomplish given my limitations? And if I cannot really accomplish much of anything right now, to stop fighting and just retreat and rest.

Physical fitness. Some weaknesses we cannot help, but in other areas we might be able to bring about some improvement. For example, too much sitting at the computer is not good for our health.

Avoiding distractions.
To prioritize and try to do each day the most important thing that has to get done, not several other things.
 
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I see 7 as a campaign of some kind, having the attitude of campaigne to something even romance. Suprising how often it comes up in unrequited love questions.

Yes, because after the conflict that cannot be resolved-- hex 6-- we get the next hexagram, 7, god help us.

There is this expression in English: 'Between 6's and 7's."

Someone somewhere also relates it to grief

Even when we are letting go of unwanted burdens, there seems to be this sadness.

I feel it can also relate to goals of large organisations , governments depts etc

Hierarchical organizations.

And families run in a top-down, hierarchical way, in which everybody knows their duties and their true place.

Having lost my job-related identity recently, shall I join the army? i don't think they'd take me. I'm too old. Related to that, I saw this gray-haired lady walking down the street the other day carrying silver-colored 2-pound weights, one in either hand. She strode along looking so very elegant. I wondered if she was coming from the gym, or had just decided to take these silver weights out whenever she goes for a walk.

I sat down at the computer at around 7:30 am, thinking I'd just say one thing and leave quickly. It is now 11:47 a.m. It is over 4 hours later. Yesterday I didn't get off the computer until around 5:30 p.m. Time flies when we're having fun. I had told myself that I wouldn't go near the computer today, since i overdid it yesterday.

Guess I did not listen to myself.
 
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and instead raise your view of your service toward heaven?

My first reaction is that you're right, but I've got so much on my TO DO list to take care of first.

That suddenly reminds me of the Rules of St. Benedict, in which the day is divided up so that those in the monastery had enough time for everything.

Thanks for reminding me. We obviously cannot stop entirely doing practical things. Buttons must be sewn, books must be balanced, and so forth. But no matter how beautiful the buttons or how perfect the bookkeeping, these are all trivialities compared to what is actually of greatest importance in life.
 
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We obviously cannot stop entirely doing practical things. Buttons must be sewn, books must be balanced, and so forth. But no matter how beautiful the buttons or how perfect the bookkeeping, these are all trivialities compared to what is actually of greatest importance in life.

Funny, my first reaction to the first part of this statement was, sewing buttons and balancing books is a beautiful service to heaven, if done with joy. Reminds me a bit of: "Before enlightenment, chopping wood. After enlightenment, chopping wood." The beat goes on.
 

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Funny, my first reaction to the first part of this statement was, sewing buttons and balancing books is a beautiful service to heaven, if done with joy. Reminds me a bit of: "Before enlightenment, chopping wood. After enlightenment, chopping wood." The beat goes on.

Thank you, sooo ... Sometimes when I get lost in the clouds, I forget to chop that wood.

Found an old notebook yesterday from several decades ago in which I had asked a question like, 'How might I feel most secure?' And the answer was 7.2.4 > 16.

I think I understand the response better now: If I attack my task or if I attack other people, I'll certainly lose my peace of mind. To avoid apprehension, don't attack the tasks and don't attack other people. That's simple enough, but not for us who are used to tackling projects with a great deal of tension.
 
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Found an old notebook yesterday from several decades ago in which I had asked a question like, 'How might I feel most secure?' And the answer was 7.2.4 > 16.

I think I understand the response better now: If I attack my task or if I attack other people, I'll certainly lose my peace of mind. To avoid apprehension, don't attack the tasks and don't attack other people. That's simple enough, but not for us who are used to tackling projects with a great deal of tension.

Being a task attacker too, I can empathize with this. It's always worked for me, and got the job done with great enthusiasm. However what I didn't realize until it was pointed out to me by a coworker, was that I'd become so intensely focused on the task and determined to bring it to completion, that my usual cordiality would be replaced by a stern task-master, which only served to rob them of their enthusiasm.

So the retreat of line 4 applies first to the general of line 2. Sometimes the leader has to just back off and chill out in the midst of the troops.
 

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Being a task attacker too ... got the job done with great enthusiasm.

Thanks for empathizing, sooo.

Funny how the two words 'attacking' and 'tackling' contain a common root. Let me go over here to the big dictionary ...

Maybe the root of those two words comes from a European word that means to seize, grasp, and throw down -- I visualize this as wrestling something to the ground. It implies an assault, some degree of hostile force.

But maybe attacking a task is the opposite of having any enthusiasm for it. A lot of the things we have to do are rather meaningless, after all. But we have to do them anyway. "Hafta get it done ... Gotta go, gotta go get."

In the long run, people cannot work this way without serious health consequences. For the army or the militia to stay physically fit, it also needs to know how to really relax.
 
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Following Up on many hexagrams 7 unchanging

I think they mean I can step up and take on more of a leadership role in several areas of life, if I choose to do so, since the 'powers that be' are weak and nobody is doing certain things that certainly need to be done.

I'm having trouble figuring out my priorities, however.

I am quite sure that in my confusion I have already gone off on several ridiculously unnecessary tangents and wasted at lot of time and energy.

BTW, Sooo, I don't see the word itinerate very often. Usually we see the word itinerant. You are obviously very literate, as well as being itinerate!
 

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Revisiting this hex 7uc thread from many years ago, I wanted to say what it was all about. I was about to lose a certain doctor's services in a clinic. I would need to find another specialist in a different clinic. This was a case, as Trojina has pointed out, where the hex 7uc was referring to doctors and hospitals. A clinic was collapsing, and a new doctor was approaching.
 

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