Holy?

[candid]

Holy.

You know how some words can evoke special feelings? Here?s a word, and I?d be curious what thoughts or feelings it may evoke from you. Its a word most of us have heard around this time of year all our lives. It may have meant one thing to you at one point and another thing now. What does it mean? How does it feel? Does it describe something real or is it just a human sensation? Does it point to anything worthwhile or does it lead us further away? It seems to raise more questions than answers.

May this holiday enrich you abundantly!

 

[candid]

Ok, no takers so I'll throw something out here.

I think there is 'something' holy to be seen in life. I'm not sure why or how I see it exactly, but I think its there. Its difficult for me to imagine a Universe or creation without a head. I have one. You have one. Why wouldn't a large celestial body have one? We're part of the same body, right? So, I think there's a head to life. Since I can't comprehend the whole picture, I look at the mystery with a sense of awe. This awe moves me beyond my otherwise limited existence and offers to me a vision. I think its safe to call the it, divinely inspired. The emotion of awe can also be called, holy, in regard to the head. Or, how about the heart? Isn't it a holy thing to know ones own heart? How about the heart of another? Seems pretty holy to me. What about an Arizona sunset? A Cape Cod seacoast? Or, a ride upon sixty foot waves at sea? Awe inspiring, and holy.

As far as a holy God, that's a tough one for me. Sometimes it seems evident and sometimes its beside the point. Using my primitive understanding: If I were God, I wouldn't want my children fussing over me. I'd want them to live their life as best they could, making the best decisions which will further their overall welfare. I think any good parent would feel that way.

Namaste,
Candid

 

[anita]

At one time i used to feel very apart from the Holy Set. Now, since I'm a priestess of sorts and follow my spiritual with dedication enough to hopefully taqke the Oath next year, I myself feel pretty holy! I think the closer we get to the divine core within, the holier we become.

Seasons greetings!

Anita

 

[willow]

For my religious education as a kid, it seemed that "Holy" was the word placed before anything that was set apart from questioning, the stuff that you couldn't make fun of or get a plausible explanation for - respect and do not question. So, of course there at the corner of my mind would come the alternative, "hole-y" -- full of holes, doesn't hold water, implausible claptrap.

Now in my adult understanding of the universe, I have a special reverence and respect for the "holes," the places where the Great Void and Mystery can blow through the gaps in my understanding, the places where a relationship can be established between the seen and the unseen, the known and unknown. The places where that necessary structure of limited understanding can be touched by something else, and so be able to grow and change.

I guess, in a way, what I now see is that if anyone says, "This is Holy," the important thing about what they are saying is something like, "This is a charged place (or idea or experience). There is a door between the worlds here."

 

[candid]

Willow,

What beautiful ideas and pictures to illustrate them!

Its true what you said about early impressions of the word, holy. Raised as a Roman Catholic, I definitely can recall it as you've stated. Holy is what you don't dare to question. Its sacred ground! Take off thy shoes for the land upon which you walk - is holy ground. Was the ground REALLY holy, Sister Snooty? I remember once when I was in First Communion class, I raised my hand and said, "Sister, I understand heaven and hell but would you explain this purgatory thing to me?" She asked, "what thing do you really hate doing?" I looked at her, puzzled, as replied, "taking out the garbage. My parents make me take it out every night and I really hate it!" Sister said, "well, when you die, you will have to take out the garbage constantly over and over again for a very long time." Such is what a "holy" God would require? Naaaaaa

Now, like yourself, I see the 'holes' differently. The space in-between the matter, or as LiSe says, the space between the notes. #16 I believe, LiSe?

The things I can't know have become the things which lead me on, and the things which have proven to be most reliable and constant. This means that in order to see them I have to reverse my polarity first. Holy can be seen, I think. Just need to view it from holy perspective. Indeed, everything is holy when viewed from holy ground. How can it not be?

I think this is the message of grace, which in Paul's struggle for significance, got lost in the sauce. Jesus himself may have even succumb to temptation to regulate infinity, misplacing archetypes for being his own hero figure.

This reminds me of one of Lindsay?s posts, which I've been meaning to respond to but have been pressed for time. I don't recall his wording exactly but it had to do with which was more real, the archetype or the actual reality of the moment. I think its a fantastic question. One which I chew a little on daily. I think I have a response to it and will try to express it on another new thread soon.

I wish you all a healthy and in all ways prosperous New Year!

Candid

 

[heylise]

Enjoying the posts. Willow?s hole-y holy and Candid?s gem:

?The things I can't know have become the things which lead me on, and the things which have proven to be most reliable and constant. This means that in order to see them I have to reverse my polarity first. Holy can be seen, I think. Just need to view it from holy perspective. Indeed, everything is holy when viewed from holy ground. How can it not be??

(I think the notes refer to hex.17, resonating)

I myself imagine Willow?s holes in the ceiling (or roof). Sun and rain come in, but if you want to see through them, you need to climb. One of the ladders is the Yi, the hexagrams even look like ladders.

LiSe

 

[candid]

RE ladder: "Because he sees with great clarity and cause and effects, he completes the six steps at the right time and mounts toward heaven on them at the right time, as though on six dragons." (#1)

 

[willow]

(humming)...and I'm fixing a hole, where the rain gets in...