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How do i find the right job for me? Hex 52.6?

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I've asked, "How do I find the right job for me?" as I'm still struggling with what's available, where I fit in, what's necessary, what's ideal, what's logical. And the rest of the long list of trying to find my way.

Surprisingly, the Yi says the answer is Hexagram 52.6 becoming Hexagram 15.

The whole of idea of "stilling" is a bit foreign to me at a time when I really feel that action is called for. And what can I find or achieve by becoming motionless? That seems the antithesis of what's called for in order to make a living But it's one line, seems rather clear. How can this be right?
 

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I've asked, "How do I find the right job for me?" as I'm still struggling with what's available, where I fit in, what's necessary, what's ideal, what's logical. And the rest of the long list of trying to find my way.

Surprisingly, the Yi says the answer is Hexagram 52.6 becoming Hexagram 15.

The whole of idea of "stilling" is a bit foreign to me at a time when I really feel that action is called for.
And what can I find or achieve by becoming motionless? That seems the antithesis of what's called for in order to make a living But it's one line, seems rather clear. How can this be right?

action is required but towards which direction is the question.

This marks the consummation of the effort to attain tranquillity. One is at
rest, not merely in a small, circumscribed way in regard to matters of detail,
but one has also a general resignation in regard to life as a whole, and this
confers peace and good fortune in relation to every individual matter.

I don't see stillness as motionless here .I read it as : to be in motion first you need to still you mind.

I tried to practice on something the other day which requires a 52.6 state of mind , there is no other way. I didn't had it , too many things in my mind , so I indeed stayed "motionless" ie couldn't work at all.
 

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Maybe 52.6 means relax, don't worry about it!

But just incase you were hoping for something a little more specific, is there anything you can do now that is somehow in keeping with the advice of line 52.6?
For example do you have any projects around the house that need to be completed? Perhaps when you have taken care of all the little niggling details, small chores you've been meaning to get around to, when you've totally completed all your past promises, when all that is put to rest, when all that is still, perhaps then new energy/ inspiration will be made available.

I think 15 points to being self employed, or taking on a job that is an expression of who you are rather than just selling yourself. Certainly a positive omen for eventually having work that is right for you!
-rosada
 

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It's weird that all of these interpretations make sense. I've actually been filing and cleaning up and putting away, as Rosada suggests because that felt like an obvious way to prepare for something new. And I've also considered I should just advertise all I can do as an employee, as Pocossin has suggsted. And I so much feel what Anemos is saying, if I don't quiet my brain I won't get anywhere, no matter how I try. It's intriguing when I look at 52.6 how it seems to be telling me straight out what to do and suggesting strongly there is a clear answer, yet my mind is still all over the place. I feel like the person who can't find their glasses because they've put them on top of their head and thinks they are lost.
 
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Hi arabella, I always find doing those things you have done helps me process my thoughts and clears the way as you said for something new. x
 

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I've asked, "How do I find the right job for me?" as I'm still struggling with what's available, where I fit in, what's necessary, what's ideal, what's logical. And the rest of the long list of trying to find my way.

Surprisingly, the Yi says the answer is Hexagram 52.6 becoming Hexagram 15.

The whole of idea of "stilling" is a bit foreign to me at a time when I really feel that action is called for. And what can I find or achieve by becoming motionless? That seems the antithesis of what's called for in order to make a living But it's one line, seems rather clear. How can this be right?


I think I'd find that a great answer if I was asking your question Arabella :)

I think that 52.6 is a line where movement is more or less irrelevant in that it doesn't concern the axis of the reading . . you could be spinning round like a wild dervish or setting down to get some sleep and still be in the place 52.6 is talking of. Most times I get this line it feels as asking me to occupy myself in the most genuine sense . . when I am in 52.6 I am in full acceptance of where I'm coming from and how this has shaped my choices, of how I fulfill my place in my life and certain that, in times of trouble, even knowing what I don't want is enough to steer me clear . . I know it's not always easy to reach that place (of course!! :bag:) but being there, even for a short while, even if it's a passing mood that might soon be lost from sight by the waves of my own troubling, nagging voices, it is enough to remind me which way is which for me

I hope you don't mind but this all makes me stray into some of my own musings which are related to similar self-questioning and could possibly be helpful to your reading too, because your 52/15 reminded me of a discussion I had recently where someone asked me a question that stayed with me . . they asked me how long I can stand and look myself in the mirror without feeling any kind of uneasiness or discontent about who I am . . about how I occupy my skin, so to speak, my bare self . . and while the notion is not a foreign or novel one, what got me was the 'how long' part -how long without trying to fix something, change, criticize. And I got to thinking of where my dissatisfaction comes from or what it sounds like and I realized that we get wired to always come up with the word 'more' . . we want 'more': time, space, freedom, wealth, friends, love . . whatever it is, it comes with 'more' affixed. Like 15's Image says, where we find a lack, a hunger, a void, we go out in the world to answer it with 'more' . .

But what made my head really turn from all the 'more' sentences was the thought that what I'm looking for is not anywhere near these 'more' tags but with the right 'less' ones . . that I don't need to find where a round of voices asks for more, where or how I should be maximizing things but which are the right ways to minimize . . and that by finding the way to minimize, augmentation would come naturally and effortlessly . . I'm not saying that maximizing is 'bad' or negative in any way, but that there are many ways to achieve it . . and while for some of us going for maximum is what feels right for others it might not be (I know for me it isn't . . it suffocates me and brings me the need from time to time to go into splitting mode and come round full circle)


I don't know yet how to find the right ways to fully bring this into fruition but t least I know when something feels right (often difficult but right) and that helps me keep putting my best foot forward
I hope you don't mind me pouring all this into your thread but I've been trying to find my own way forwards too and your questions have given me food for thought and a way to put my brainstorming finds into words and order . .

to go back to your reading, your 52.6 could be whispering to you to give yourself your much-needed space to equalize the highs and lows of your roller-coaster year and allow things to find their genuine place . . it could be saying that you might need to sleep over your thoughts and let them show you where you need to augment and reduce . .
Also, the first thing that came to my mind with it was your image of your coming hut-on-a-hill . . :)
things might feel like a round of 'musical chairs' right now where we think we need to race towards a chair and grasp it but your answer seems to say that what you really need to look for is not any chair but one that was 'meant' for you :) . . seems to me that the clearest way to find it is by being fully confident that it can exist . .

. . and don't forget to stop and take some deep breaths and enjoy the view along the way . . :hug:
 

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I've asked, "How do I find the right job for me?" as I'm still struggling with what's available, where I fit in, what's necessary, what's ideal, what's logical. And the rest of the long list of trying to find my way.

your long list is a good starting point. I guess you do it in a brainstorming mode , throwing ideas without processing them at the moment.

I see hex 15 as the next step. Perhaps you are already aware of Bradford's pov re h15.

he says : appraising things with fair allocation

and he explains : this means something entirely different of a more usual translation of "weightings things and making them equal ". This "handicapping" would actually be to appraise things falsely.

you have been a business consultant and i believe i don't have to say more what fair allocation means, you already know. and you did it in a way when you had to decide whether to accept the job you were offered or not. you said, yes with this job I would earn some money and be able to pay some bills , but that is not my first priority at the moment.

All the questions in your list are legitimate but you have to assign values. what is important what is not , how much important is , or isn't. And i think, this is where 52.6 comes.
 
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I don't think 52.6 is about doing things at all...quite the reverse. Its a great answer to the question...its very reassuring, it means all is as it should be but you have to trust it. You have to trust it really is okay for you to take some time and space like Dora said to settle down within yourself


To me this a definate instruction not to be frantically list making or struggling.

Noone can do that all the time especially if they are anxious but maybe you could try deliberately setting aside times of day where you will not be worrying you will be meditating and disengaging from thoughts of 'what will i do next'

It is very explicit in 52 when it says in the Image in Wilhelm " Thus the superior man Does not permit his thoughts To go beyond his situation"


So thats clear as can be isn't it. You haven't long lost your job...even if you just have week of 52.6 it seems you need it. And I think YI is saying you can afford to take it...because right now its the way forward for you...and better still you are capable of this inner stillness and much good can come from it


Suspend all plots and lists.....aim for empty head...heck this is a great excuse to lie in the sun with a long cool drink and a novel living only for the moment


Theres lots of answers that tell you to pull your finger out and get on with it...this ain't one of them aaaahhhh deep sigh :cool:

From Hilarys book she says ask yourself these questions with 52...to think as if "what if there were nothing you had to do now ? What if there werenowhere else you had to be ? Where is your inner point of balance ?"

If you can imagine all that is true for a while, that there is nothing you need to do, nowhere you need to be...and Yi is actually saying there isn't, whatever you think there isn't, then you can find the point of stillness that eventually nourishes and enables you to move forward again....but meanwhile I think its holdiay time...in one form or another.
 
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One thing I've found to be a root of conflict when asking Yi about anything to do with advancing in worldly ways, is that Yi's idea of succeeding may be different than what I consciously had in mind. This can get confusing, if the teacher answers the student about correct composure when the student's urgent feeling question is "What should I do?!?!" I think Yi answered with "Settle down, and be real."

That's an interesting point that Maria mentions about Bradford's view of 15 as appraising things with fair allocation vs just equalizing. I've always assumed that equalizing takes into consideration what one has or has not acquired justly, not a mere equal slice of a pie regardless of accomplishment or individual worth or wealth. But I'm in agreement that, in some cases 15 may mean just the opposite of how it's typically interpreted.

A personal observation about receiving 52.6. Wilhelm uses "noble-hearted keeping still." The reason this resonates with me is that keeping still is often the absolute LAST thing I want to do at the time I receive this line. So it says to me, 'even though you don't feel like it, keep still anyway - that's what makes it noble.' I realize not all translate it as noble. Brad translates a 'Authentic stillness.' LiSe as 'Magnanimous and stabile. The idea is the same: there is the you who is above this, go to that place. Sit awhile in the presence of your genuine nobility.
 

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Its really quite funny





'How do i find the right job ?'


'52.6' :rofl:


Yi is such a hippie :rofl:

'who wants a job man :cool:'

:rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMDjIbfKeXE&feature=related



Yes, the Yi is such a clown sometimes and really takes the weight off!

:rofl::rofl::rofl: :bows::bows: :hug::hug:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AROLaCFxDDc


Thanks to all of you for spending the time to advise here. Whether I go quietly along or sit with a long tall one as T is saying, the message is clear then that I need time to "regroup." I can really tune in on what each of you is saying and Rodaki's reflections make perfect sense. I'm so in the habit of thinking I have to grab that chair before the music stops! And Anemos is right, my business-person voice gets the first and last word on everything -- let's be practical, let's not let the opportunities play out endlessly, for pete's sake just pick one and get on with it.

There's a quotation from Christianity about the birds not worrying where they nest, or the beasts in the field not stressing over their next meals -- they know they are provided for. That sounds so lovely when you first hear it and then I always think, well there's no chance I can pay my bills in worms or weeds. On the flip side of that quotation, however, the birds know where NOT to nest and get eaten; the beasts instinctively realise that some plants will kill them and avoid those. And, perhaps for me, that is as much the point right now.

I did something that was very difficult but also in a way 52.6 last week. My daughters and I drove through the night to the ferry to get the first one West at dawn. We sailed to Iona in high seas and we each did something significant to us. I buried a box with the past inside it in among the rocks of a jetty on what is called "Martyrs' Beach." One of my daughters wrote all of her anxieties and hopes into a letter that she placed in an ornate porcelain-stoppered bottle and dropped into the Sea. And the other wrote a list of worries and anxieties that she burned on the beach and then recited a prayer she had written for her life. It was all in horrific lashing gales and couldn't have been more dramatic. And it being the Holy Isle, Iona, we had to go on foot. I have wanted to see the Abbey at Iona for many years; it's always stirred my imagination and, at one point, my son and I had begun writing an opera [still unfinished] about St. Columcille and how he came to Iona. In the Abbey people were anything but reverent -- it was just another tourist attraction -- and I was a bit disappointed. Even so, the light was so intense in my camera lens none of my photos came out. They all have a huge white ball in the middle of them. So there is something there.

Maybe because of the drama, or the high purpose we went with, or the physical effort it all took to get through it, I am still waiting for the effects to sink in, which I know they will. And maybe that is part of 52.6 We all had such high hopes for that day; for release from past anxieties that drive us, and for a future that makes better use of what we all have to offer. It is a turning point, a crossroads, and direction is All.:hug: Arabella
 
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It is very explicit in 52 when it says in the Image in Wilhelm " Thus the superior man Does not permit his thoughts To go beyond his situation"


So thats clear as can be isn't it. You haven't long lost your job...even if you just have week of 52.6 it seems you need it. And I think YI is saying you can afford to take it...because right now its the way forward for you...and better still you are capable of this inner stillness and much good can come from it


Suspend all plots and lists.....aim for empty head...heck this is a great excuse to lie in the sun with a long cool drink and a novel living only for the moment


Theres lots of answers that tell you to pull your finger out and get on with it...this ain't one of them aaaahhhh deep sigh :cool:


all these come very close to some of my thoughts . . :cool:

just to clarify though, since it seems that it's easy to decontextualize terms and put them under different perspectives, when I mentioned 'equalizing' I was referring to the roller-coaster year Arabella had and how it would be great to let things find their own place . . I know if I had the year she had I wouldn't want to jump on the next project just because . . so that was not a bulldozer attitude, more of a sit back and let things settle sort of thing
. . eventually I don't think we are saying very different things as far this is concerned . .

cheers!
 

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love the releasing ritual Arabella, sounds wonderful
thanks for the tune too! :)
 

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One thing I've found to be a root of conflict when asking Yi about anything to do with advancing in worldly ways, is that Yi's idea of succeeding may be different than what I consciously had in mind. This can get confusing, if the teacher answers the student about correct composure when the student's urgent feeling question is "What should I do?!?!" I think Yi answered with "Settle down, and be real."

That's an interesting point that Maria mentions about Bradford's view of 15 as appraising things with fair allocation vs just equalizing. I've always assumed that equalizing takes into consideration what one has or has not acquired justly, not a mere equal slice of a pie regardless of accomplishment or individual worth or wealth. But I'm in agreement that, in some cases 15 may mean just the opposite of how it's typically interpreted.

A personal observation about receiving 52.6. Wilhelm uses "noble-hearted keeping still." The reason this resonates with me is that keeping still is often the absolute LAST thing I want to do at the time I receive this line. So it says to me, 'even though you don't feel like it, keep still anyway - that's what makes it noble.' I realize not all translate it as noble. Brad translates a 'Authentic stillness.' LiSe as 'Magnanimous and stabile. The idea is the same: there is the you who is above this, go to that place. Sit awhile in the presence of your genuine nobility.

This bit is the part I have to keep bringing myself back to. It's a situation that requires such balance and focus and yet, my mind is all over the place. What quality of decision could I make at this moment? Fairly abysmal I would think. And yet this is how I'm ready to embark on the next stage of life. As difficult as it may be, time to sit, time to breathe in and out. It goes against everything of the agitation and anxiety that I feel. And if I am being "magnanimous" now -- it is with myself. I am the one I generally sell short, sell out, and don't think much about. But who's going to look into the mirror of introspection that Rodaki has spoken about and look after me if I don't do it myself?
 
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I think Yi answered with "Settle down, and be real."

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"be real" is how i see 15 too.

I tend to agree with Bradford , that modesty is a bit misleading in regards to 15 core meaning. " be modest" doesn't resonates to me while "keep it real" makes more sense and this is how i have experienced through my reading.
Being aware were one stands , clear minded enough to assess accurately things, being able to say "this is what it is" is imo the way to carry things through.
 

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all these come very close to some of my thoughts . . :cool:

just to clarify though, since it seems that it's easy to decontextualize terms and put them under different perspectives, when I mentioned 'equalizing' I was referring to the roller-coaster year Arabella had and how it would be great to let things find their own place . . I know if I had the year she had I wouldn't want to jump on the next project just because . . so that was not a bulldozer attitude, more of a sit back and let things settle sort of thing
. . eventually I don't think we are saying very different things as far this is concerned . .

cheers!

yes i didn't think we were saying very different things :bows:
 

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. . just wanted to make sure there was no communication break down ;)

btw Arabella, many people are finding it hard to relax these days . . maybe a bit OT but astrologically speaking, there's a lot going on in the skies lately with Sun, Moon, Uranus, Pluto and Saturn all in the pot . . it can be rather electric . . :cool:
 

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And Anemos is right, my business-person voice gets the first and last word on everything -- let's be practical, let's not let the opportunities play out endlessly, for pete's sake just pick one and get on with it.

Oh, i don't think i said that. "Just pick one" is a reaction. 52, imo, isn't about no action. its a warning about reaction and advise of how to respond to the circumstances. Its actually action from your center.

or as Wilhelm phrase it better that i do

True quiet means keeping still when the time has come to keep still, and
going forward when the time has come to go forward.
 

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Oh, i don't think i said that. "Just pick one" is a reaction. 52, imo, isn't about no action. its a warning about reaction and advise of how to respond to the circumstances. Its actually action from your center.

or as Wilhelm phrase it better that i do

True quiet means keeping still when the time has come to keep still, and
going forward when the time has come to go forward.

Yes, I've looked back at this and you said "appraising things with fair allocation" and referred to my business experience -- and i jumped to my conclusion from there! :blush:

What you are saying about timing and the right time for something makes perfect sense. My own ability to have faith that i know the right time and can intuit what to do is probably what worries me. That I'll misread the signs -- miss the boat. Case in point -- I got to the ferry for Iona an hour early and was the only one in line.
 
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