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oponopono

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Dear all,
Thank you for this space of sharing.

I have been dialogging with the Iching for about 1 year now and more and more I grow mesmerized by its wisdom and its power of companionship through my most clouded processes.

I still feel I am a beginner student in all this, at each question/answer learning a bit more - about myself and the Iching itself.
It has showed me namely how I refuse to see the obvious in some situations (answers that immediately make no sense and after a while turn out to be completely explicit...!) and taught me to accept obstacles and stagnation as one more of the many possibly states of any given situation.

Anyway, my question to you all concerns reading time frames. If I ask say "What should be my attitude towards this person?" or "How much energy should I invest in this project?" or "What is the role of X in my life right now?" (endless examples...) I'm often insecure about how should the responses be read time wise:

How do I know the first hexagram will mutate to the second in 2 days or 2 months? - or 2 years...?
What is the time frame?
What about references to months and seasons in the texts, should they be taken literally? (43, breakthrough-resoluteness for example, says "The hexagram is linked with the third month [April-May]." should a breakthrough be expected in these months?)

Even if I give it a time spam within the question, it still leaves space for wondering :
"What is reserved for my relationship with X in the month of June?" answered with 19 APPROACH mutating to 7 THE ARMY.
How could the timing for this mutating movement be interpreted? (not in this answer in specific, but overall...)

Thank you so much for your time and attention, :)
Y- Joana
 

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Hi Y Joana,
Your question involves two quite separate issues. One is the various time frame techniques and interpretations of Yi commentary. Others have far more experience and expertize on that set of issues.

The second is the overall issue of how long is a Yi Oracle good for and what determines when it has ceased to be valid. I once asked the Yi about a weekend activity that was planned. The oracle was very positive. However, by the time the weekend rolled around the plans didn't happen at all. I asked the Yi about it, and got an Oracle answer I interpreted as saying, "Things Change."

Any divination is a snapshot taken now, or an instantaneous tangent to the current Flux. Yet there are things that happen that make that Flux change. It is like a momentum calculation which is totally valid for a wide range of future times, unless and until some new, previously unknown or expected force is applied somehow.

Does the Yi know or determine future events? Does the Yi indicate current trends that are open to change by future forces? These are fundamentally metaphysical questions each of us is free to decide for ourselves.

The power of the Oracle, for me, is its ability to explain meaning and describe how things are going at least in terms of how I perceive them.

There is a lot of room for you to develop your own answers both from comments made to you, Yi Oracles you experience, and your own thinking on the subject.

Good Luck,
Frank
 

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Dear all,
Thank you for this space of sharing.

I have been dialogging with the Iching for about 1 year now and more and more I grow mesmerized by its wisdom and its power of companionship through my most clouded processes.

I still feel I am a beginner student in all this, at each question/answer learning a bit more - about myself and the Iching itself.
It has showed me namely how I refuse to see the obvious in some situations (answers that immediately make no sense and after a while turn out to be completely explicit...!) and taught me to accept obstacles and stagnation as one more of the many possibly states of any given situation.

Anyway, my question to you all concerns reading time frames. If I ask say "What should be my attitude towards this person?" or "How much energy should I invest in this project?" or "What is the role of X in my life right now?" (endless examples...) I'm often insecure about how should the responses be read time wise:

How do I know the first hexagram will mutate to the second in 2 days or 2 months? - or 2 years...?
What is the time frame?
What about references to months and seasons in the texts, should they be taken literally? (43, breakthrough-resoluteness for example, says "The hexagram is linked with the third month [April-May]." should a breakthrough be expected in these months?)

Even if I give it a time spam within the question, it still leaves space for wondering :
"What is reserved for my relationship with X in the month of June?" answered with 19 APPROACH mutating to 7 THE ARMY.
How could the timing for this mutating movement be interpreted? (not in this answer in specific, but overall...)

Thank you so much for your time and attention, :)
Y- Joana

Hi Y- Joana,

I have been using the Yijing for a few years myself and I too have thought about the question of time.

From my experience, there is no sure way of knowing when the first hexagram will mutate into the 2nd. If you do not specify a time frame to your question, you will have to be very alert to observe any changes. But from your general reading, you should get a rough idea of how things turn out which could serve as signposts for observing these changes.

I prefer to give a time frame for my questions if possible, to make it easier for interpretation. As to how the hexagrams will play out within a set time frame, there are as I have mentions, no fixed rules. I've had cases where the readings only happened at the very end of the time frame. At other times it was fairly spread out. In some cases it happened almost all at once in the beginning.

In my opinion, I have found that it is better to set a time frame, to know what kind of answer you need and to frame your question accordingly as specifically as you can. If necessary, you should ask a few questions to throw light on a situation from different angles. The answers you get from the Yijing can be very ambiguous if you do not know what answer you are looking for. As such I personally try to be as clear as possible. This has always worked best for me.

As to your question regarding whether months and seasons in the text should be taken literally, I'm afraid my experience does not qualify me to answer this question, as I've never placed much emphasis on it.

Regards,
Byzantine
 

oponopono

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Thank you both, Byzantine and Frank, that was quite wise guidance from both of you.
I feel inspired to go on walking along with the Iching by my side, and I'm sure that this will bring me more insights about this time interpretation. But both your advice were quite helpful.

Obrigada! Thank you,

Joana
 

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How do I know the first hexagram will mutate to the second in 2 days or 2 months? - or 2 years...?
What is the time frame?

As I understand it, not everyone believes that the first hexagram mutates into the second in time. This is a recent thread which discussed that subject.
 

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