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I'm working now as a acupuncturist for 10 years, but also as a physiotherapist. But I want to quit there, but I don't earn enough yet to support me and my family.

It terafies me to take the step because I don't have enough income yet.

My answer from the Yi was 16 no changing lines.

And I know what that means, but has maybe anyone some personal advice. Or some personal examples how to read 16 with no changing lines.

thanks Frank
 
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I see 16. Enthusiasm as a real vote of confidence that you can successfully step out on your own. I think of 16 as the sound of the drums that would build up the courage of the troups as they marched off into the unknown. So perhaps the first step is to do somethings that simply stir up your chi. The Image specifically mentions music so literally put on some lively music at the start of the day. Sing with your family at night. Music has a way of connecting and accessing a lot of opportunities we might otherwise be unaware of.

Best wishes!
 

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Thanks Rosada,

The music, yes that's something I love.
I come together sometimes with other man and then we go singing(just making sounds) and thats the part i really enjoy.

But people around me say that i should "sell" myself more that I do acupuncture(and a part I Ching Acupuncture). So that other people can find me. but that's a part I really find dificult to do, exploit myself commercially.

on what way can I make mself more known with thinking of 16 unchanging?
 
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Your first question was "How to take the step to be fully independant?" Your answer was hexagram 16. That says (in my mind anyway) "Enliven your spirit, stir up your courage, have confidence!"

Your second question, "How can I make myself more known?" is a such a different question I think it requires a fresh toss. But if you feel the answer still lies in 16 then I think the advice is that you review your work and your abilities so that you're able to truthfully say, "Damn, I'm good". When you are feeling that positive about yourself you may find it becomes more obvious how to put yourself out there.
 

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How to take the step to be fully independent? >16

16's about enthusiastic preparation for something. You're riding enthusiasm here, and getting ready for full independence. You're getting super organized about it. 16's like gearing up for a major campaign. Exciting times.

Oh, and by the way... it's gonna happen.
 
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Hi Frank

Some ideas, just in case it could be useful

a) How enthusiastic are you about this proyect? Is this enthusiasm greater than your fears? How it manifest? (Many people indentify automatically 16 with "positive answer". It could be, and it could be not. One needs to discern if it is an enthusiasm that gives you energy and direction or confution and blindness)

b) Enthusiasm need a great and guiding idea. What is your leading idea about independence? Discern not "why" you want to leave your practice and be fully independece, but "what for". And how do you think is to be fully independece?; imagine how would be your emotional, economical, family and spiritual life achieving that.

c) Is not enough to have a gret idea or be enthusiastic: a precipitation because enthusiasm is humilliating (line 1); to lose an oportunity because doubts is a wasted enthusiasm (line 3) and a "blind" enthusiasm could lead you to pitfal (line 6). That's why, plus have a great and enthusiastic idea, you need organization (like if you would lead an army to war) and helpers (advicers, supporters, loyal people). Do you had a plan? how are you organizing the things and steps of the plan to success? what are your straights? who are your helpers? what else do you need?

d) Once you have a great plan, organization and helpers; you need to chose the right moment to do it. If you act too soon, is risky (line 1); if you don't act because of doubts, pitfal (line 3). The propper time in hex 16 is shown in line 4: do some meditation on this line.

e) talking about the propper time. Calendaric calculations shows: righ now, the project is in line 3 a time of doubts (from May 1 to June 16) line 4 would arrive from June 17 to July 31.

Best wishes
 

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I always have the feeling that "enthousiasm" is not the right word for hexagram 16. Something like "be awake, and be ready" seems to be more appropriate.
Be ready when the opportunity arrives, when the door opens.

There is eagerness and intensity in this hexagram - it reminds me of a cat watching a mouse, ready to jump - so the word "enthousiasm" is not completely inappropriate, but the hexagram seems to require first of all receptivity, intense listening.
Listening to subtle cues, the signs of the time.

Do you see the mouse, Frank? Or perhaps the bird?
 

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Good observations, Martin.
"Responsive movement" (shun dong) is how 16 is interpreted in the Tuan Zhuan.
Like moving with a beat after picking up the beat.
 
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Perhaps reviewing your work with acupuncture and focusing your attention on the amazing results. Perhaps you've sort of been taking it for granted and as you reread a few articles your basic belief and enthusiasm for the method will be revitalized. Then you wont have to worry about selling yourself, your enthusiasm for acupuncture will attrack your clients.
 

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What's the commonality or connection between 16 and 15, do you think? It's really easy to see the relationship of meaning between 33 and 34, for example, or between 11 and 12. But what about 15 and 16?
 

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Everybody thanks for the positive advise and the tips.

I have a private practice for 10 years now, only acupuncture where my heart is lying. During this years I tried a lot, contact with docters, patient information, writing articles, giving lectures, I have my own website etc.
During this years I worked also with the i ching and develloped a system to work with the I Ching and patients.

When I treat people with the I Ching I always feel how beautiful it is to work with the I Ching. It gives me real joy, so I'm very enthuisastic about that and also convinced of the power using it.
I even gave some international lectures about it.

But till now it was not enough to break myself free from my other work.
And although most patients are satisfied it's not getting really busy.

But reading your reactions I have to wait for the real moment, plan and have patience.
 

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Hi Frank,

I just visited your acupuncture website. You know, the internet can be a superb network of feudal lords: expanding your reach, bringing you new resources and ideas, mobilising armies of potential partners, customers and all. So if you'd like some website suggestions, I could send them your way. (Just think of me as another feudal lord
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I love what Rosada says about the drumbeat of enthusiasm and its power to attract clients. 'Most patients are satisfied' sounds pretty reasonable. Now, what about 'all patients are so revitalised and inspired they're practically bursting with impatience to tell all their friends and family?' If you have a big and beautiful image in mind of what you have to give, maybe the excitement will ripple outwards.
 

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Hillary,

thanks for the advice and yes I would be glad with your suggestions to make my website more accesible for patients and other websurfers.

And dobro what you asked about the pair 15 and 16 I also thought about that. Some years ago I wrote down which hexagrams I had thrown.
In the period of november 2001 till oktober 2002.
I had thrown all the hexagrams there were except 16. After this period I stopped writing it down. But I hardly ever get 16.

I find it pretty hard to be real enhusiatic because I'm scarred that people find me asking to much for attention. It's like losing control I don't know where the borders are anymore.

And I love hexagram 15, people who can act like 15 I have very much aprecciation for.
So I'm quickly "in my head" when I act enthuisiastic. I love the attention but don't know what to do with it.
 

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In the traditional sequence hexagram 16 pairs with hexagram 15.

REDUCE EXAGGERATIONS:

15 : reduce exaggerations - through re-distribution, even-out; 15 modesty comes out of a generic context(its 27-ness) described by hexagram 22 - facading, gloss over, cover up
Source of nourishment (48-ness) is described by analogy to 29 with its focus on containment/control.

16 : reduce exaggerations - through planning, think beforehand; 16 foresight, planning comes out of a generic context (its 27-ness) described by hexagram 21 - problem solving, to chew over
Source of nourishment (48-ness) is described by analogy to 28 with its focus on going the extra distance (excess); doing the extra work.
 

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I think the website suggestions are probably off-topic, so I'll send you an email.

16's enthusiasm is genuine, infectious, uninhibited and creative when it's founded and rooted in 15. When you see yourself as you are - really meet your own image, unvarnished reality without self-conscious adjustments - then you can sing your own song and beat your own drum and really not worry about what to do with the attention. I think 16 gets in trouble when it starts identifying with the big images.

Suggestion for what to do with the attention - grow something inspiring!
 
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I used to see 16 as Hilary has described it. In the last couple of years it appears more as what is behind the stimulated mind and emotions. It could be exactly as Hilary described, but it could also be a tempest in a teapot. Pulling it down to earth and dancing with it is the best way to find out which it is.
 
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Oops, I missed a HUGE condition that Hilary stated: "when it's founded and rooted in 15." Totally agree. 15 brings it down to earth.

Sorry 'bout that.
 
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peace

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Go for it!
If you want to be independent - you will have to give up the self-conscious feeling.
I agree with everyone else.
Be yourself, be inspired, put the word out and let people come to you.

I would stay focused always on what you have to offer and your "16" will come forward.

And...16 also eclipses a some point. Opportunities come and go - and if you hold onto your worth you can ride the rollercoaster out.

Keep us posted!
Rosalie
 

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Hilary, White Dog: could you talk a bit more about why 16 is ideally 'grounded in 15'. I've never seen the need for one hex of a pair being grounded in the other, but it's possible I suppose, considering that the hexes are arranged in pairs and that they're joined by a common or related meaning. Is that true of all the hexagrams?
 

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Chris I see the 'reduce exaggerations' aspect of 15 - that's pretty obvious - but it's not clear to me how 16 involves any reduction of exaggerations through planning. How does planning reduce exaggerations?
 
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Dobro, for me 16 can be a bit of a trickster, in that the appearance is very exciting. I've found LiSe's "weaving images" to be very accurate, and the images that are woven are not necessarily what they appear to be. But, by grounding those, what Chris refers to as exaggerations, or what I might call amplifications, the weaving images are then tied to reality. They're tested and grounded.

Not having studied pairs very much, I hadn't made the connection to 15 until Hilary and Chris pointed out that 15 is what grounds 16, by reducing it or balancing it into proportion; or as Wilhelm says: reduces that which is too much, and augments that which is too little. He weighs things and makes them equal.
 

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Dobro, planning is a form of regulation, a focus on controlling things rather than 'playing it by ear'. Just as 15 seeks to level things out, keep words close to facts, so 16 seeks to do the same form of regulation where a plan keeps the development 'on track'.

In the binary sequence 16 pairs with 35 where 35 is focused on bringing something into the light. 35 is conditional, particular, 16 is unconditional, general. The overall intent is on some future activity, 16 with general enthusiasm, foresight, 35 with particular focus.

In the binary sequence 15 pairs with 52. As such both cover a sense of quality control, blocking 'exaggerations' with 15 being unconditional, 52 conditional.

The pairing in all of these sequences (and there are a lot more!) reflects their derivation methods where the self-referencing of a pair of qualities elicits hexagram sequences in pairs(and so self-referencing of the qualities of 01/02 gives the binary ordering etc - ANY dichotomy self-referenced will elicit sequences of categories in pairs - it is an artifact of the methodology.)

Chris.
 

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We can use XOR to give us the internal properties and methods of a hexagram so here we have (a) the 15-ness of 16 and (b) the 16-ness of 15:

000100 16
001000 15
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001100 62

This 'reads' as the expression of leveling things out in a context of foresight/planning etc is expressed by characteristics associated with 62. 62 is a 'claim for loyalty' in the form of promoting the maintenance of the collective through exaggerations of traditions. It is unconditional when compared to 56 that focuses on conditional loyalty issues.

Thus the focus on evening things out of 15 is, in a context of 16 (with its roots in devotion to another/others, the earth base), is to restrict focus to traditions, to use them to keep things 'level' at a time when the collective is open to collapse.

From the other side, 15 as context, the focus on enthusism and use of foresight/planning (16)operating in a context of 15 is to keep things level through the enthusiastic promotion of traditions where they serve as a 'levelling' force; the enthusiasm acts to unite the collective as such into the future. Thus the 'exaggeration' in the enthusiasm is in fact an agent of evening things out, reducing highs-lows to the 'facts'.

Chris.
 

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BTW - note that the qualities of 62 on their own reflect the summing of the qualities of 15 added together with 16. Thus the focus on promotion of traditions for the sake of the survival of the collective is by (a) keeping words close to the facts and (b) planned enthusiasm for the future of the collective.

The single line hexagrams can be interpreted as basic forms out of which we can make the others - see comments etc in http://members.iimetro.com.au/~lofting/myweb/WaveInterpret.html

Chris.
 

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Whitedog - thanks for the response.

Chris -

"planning is a form of regulation, a focus on controlling things"

Yes, I see that. Thanks for responding. :)

Until now, I'd thought of 15 sort of along the lines of keeping its head down (humility rather than humbling sth else) and I'd thought of 16 sort of along the lines of riding the enthusiasm that comes with getting ready for sth big. But seeing them both as regulating in some way opens up my understanding of both. Where I am now with this is: 15 tones downs exaggerations NOW, whereas 16 tones down ANTICIPATED exaggerations. How does that fit with your own understanding?
 

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The reducing exxagerations and the self concious feelings really hit me.

Also the grounding part of 15, I suddenly saw also that both trigrams of 15 are both element earth - receptivity, and 16 is wood-starting the new cycle on the outside and earth on the inside.
 
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Frank,

Going back to what Martin and Brad said earlier, particularly "moving with a beat after picking up the beat", it's important that with all this leveling of extremes, we don't "give up the ghost" in the process. The original enthusiasm of 16 shouldn't be lost in its reduction. "Moving with the beat" is moving with the inspiration of a grand idea. The idea should not be lost, just placed into a workable possibility.

Inspiration, such as what you've expressed, is the stuff of the gods - whatever you imagine those gods to be. Keep listening, and if you can, pick up on the rhythm and play along.
 
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And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

 

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Yes white dog, the drum beat of my heart. I will look for it whenever and wherever I can.

Thanks.
 

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