I Ching, the Sage, Astrology, and the new physics

[gene]

Hello people,

Well, the scientific proof is in now. The Aether is real. What does this mean? That there really is a conscious universe. In other words the aether is real, and it is conscious, and here is the new unified field theory, and it works, and its experiments are replicable. The universe is conscious? Therein is the sage. He/She really does exist. And he's sitting right in your living room. Well, in every other room too. And in your own consciousness. This consciousness is what we as I Chingers call the Sage. It is a wisdom beyond our conscious wisdom. And guess what else it proves. That astrology is real. Why? Because The aether (now called the quantum hologram, because nobody wants to look like a kook by calling it aether) varies in various parts of the universe. Since the quantum hologram is conscious, so is the sun, and all the planets, as well as all matter, which is only a vibration created by this consciousness. As it travels through varies areas of the sky, it enters varying fields of energy. There is so much more to this. You can go to http://www.lauralee.com/index.cgi?search=Gregg%20Braden and hear a brief discussion of this. You will get a much greater book on this by going to "ascension.com.

In about 1887 The Michaelson Morley experiments "proved" there was no aether. But they made a few mistakes.
First one: They assumed the aether was actually material, a physical body.
Second one: They assumed it did not have a consciousness.
Third one: They assumed the movement of the earth through the aether would create a drag. They did not take into account the cancellation of any drag by gravitational fields.
Fourth one: They did not take into account that this aether would affect the experimenters machinery in the same manner as any other object, such as the earth.

I find it fascinating. Hope some of you or all of you do too.

Gene

 

[martin]

I wonder if Braden came up with the "mistakes" you mention. Actually the "drag" was invoked in an effort to save the ether theory (not to refute it) and when the physicists had _not_ taken into account effects on their instruments the ether theory would perhaps still stand.
In fact they did take it into account soon after the Michelson experiment. Their explanation is now known under the name "Lorenz-Fitzgerald contractions". These "contractions" later reappeared in Einstein's theory, in a modified form.

So if this is Braden he has it all upside down.

 

[martin]

Not that surprising for a guy with an upside down perspective, of course.

 

[gene]

Martin

I don't remember Braden saying anything about this, I get this information from several different sources. I may have misquoted some of it, as I was recalling from memory, not quoting, but the physics standpoint is correct, they, and I challenge anyone to refute it. Have you looked at the websites to see the whole story?

Gene

 

[hilary]

I listened to the interview with Gregg B over the washing up last night. It was fascinating, but the lack of detail on the experiments was exasperating. (Plus I was somehow left with the impression that the photons all came to a halt and sat there in the shape of the DNA - I'm reliably informed that photons are not known fr sitting still...) Gene, do you have links to the experiments he talked about?

 

[gene]

Actually, now that I remember, he did mention the experiments, but that is not where I got my source, and I am not sure where I did get it.

Hilary, to get more detail you need to go to http://ascension2000.com/ This is an entire book however. Actually, in a sense, a series of books. You can find some info on hyperdimensional physics on http://www.enterprisemission.com/

The question of photons sitting still is in my opinion still a little open to debate, though, I personally feel that it is the wave that is moving, (only in a relative sense, as time is only a relative marker too.) It appears that the speed of light is not an absolute, and then it is questionable whether it travels at all, it is more a matter, that, it just is. Our bodies, and all physical matter are, in a sense, simply trapped light. But this too is a matter of illusion in another sense. Due to the polar nature of the universe, the electron and proton appear to be simply a high pressure area of aether, and a low pressure area. And due to the polar nature, it appears to me at least, though I have not heard this discussed in the literature, that while a may literally be true, non a is also literally true. In other words, it is true that light moves, it is also true that it does not. It is true that time exists, it is also true that it does not. Much of this is typical taoist thinking also.

Hilary, I am going to go back when I can and listen to the Braden interview. I will likely pick things up out of it that I did not get before. That is the nature of our consciousness, we can only hear what we are ready to hear. I think there is more to this question about the photons than meets the eye.

Gene

 

[martin]

Same for me, Gene. Links to the experiments would help to make things a bit more concrete. Perhaps they are in those websites, I didn't see them.

Btw, recent developments in string theory are very interesting.
I don't know much about it (it was probably not yet invented when I studied math & physics in the seventies) but someone told me that the string people are now speculating about parallel universes that are very nearby. Those parallel realities nearly touch our plane of existence and we could go there in an instant if we only knew
how.

They hope to find out more about it when the new particle accelerator of CERN is ready.

 

[martin]

And cross posts again. Thanks Gene.

 

[hilary]

I would guess that somewhere along the lines of transmission, something has got garbled. Braden does say repeatedly in the interview that he is radically simplifying his accounts of the experiments. So you never find out exactly what kind of activity was being measured in the cheek swab dna, or quite what changed in the behaviour of those pesky photons, or what if anything they did for a control.

Not that I'd understand a word of it if I did, but I could pass it by someone who does know postgrad-level maths and physics and can evaluate these things properly. Me, I'm behind by 8 to 10 years of study (having dropped physics at 13) and one brain transplant.

 

[gene]

Hilary

I am at a bit of a loss right now because I went back to the page on Laura Lee, and there are several interviews of Greg Braden. I am not sure if we listened to exactly the same thing. What I am listening to right now sounds much the same as what I heard the other day, but I am going to have to listen to the other interviews, because I remember a lot of different things than I am hearing right now. The real impact of the new physics relates to geometric designs. Many of these designs are coded into the gematria in the greek and hebrew text of the Torah and new testament. I can't think of the names of any of the authors on this right now, but I think that the major one is mentioned on the ascension2000 website. It is John something. I find this stuff very fascinating myself. And I think the real gist of this is it shows the ancient wisdom included a very very high level of scientific knowledge, that was kept hidden from the masses. And I think I understand why. It was a science of the utilization of the consciousness of the quantum hologram, which can if used wrongly, have some very dire consequences. The discussion with Greg Braden was just a very short synopsis of some of this. I recommend the ascension2000 website.

Gene

 

[gene]

Hilary

I listened to the part about the DNA and in all honesty, I need to listen again. However, if I do understand in any way the discussion, I think it relates, though is not the same experiments, to experiments that have been done, and are described in a book, which I think is called "The Field," I will try to find more. The confusion may be, it is not the light that stays in one place. It is the memory. Experiments have been done that show that water, for example, if diluted by a chemical, for example, then purified over, and over again, still has a memory of that chemical. It is not the light itself that stays in one place, it is the memory. One possible way of looking at this, and it may not be the right way, is a small piece of wood on the ocean surface. Wave after wave lift if up, but it stays in essentially the same place. This wood can be equated with the memory of a given effect, The memory stays there, even though the wave has passed on by.

An acquaintance in Seattle once told me the story of how she had cut a piece of cake with a martial arts master's sword. (How she got it in her possession I don't know.) I am only glad the master did not find out about it. Western reality and Eastern are very different. And in Eastern reality, you only use an item specifically for the thing it was intended for. Why? because the object in question has a memory. And the memory of the cutting of that cake will always be in the sword. To a westerner, that would likely not mean anything. But to an Easterner, that takes away the energy of the sword that was placed there with the great training, and replaces it with the energy of a trivial event. In the East, they still know much of what we have long since forgotten.

Gene

 

[gene]

Just a short excerpt from the book showing why to a certain extent this knowledge took so long in coming out.

There is clear evidence that any scientific effort which moves towards a discovery of the importance of these geometries in the Universe is being actively suppressed, as those in the secret brotherhoods still have a high degree of power and feel bound to ?ever conceal and never reveal? the ?secrets of the Order.? Many of these group members have deliberately arisen to power in various scientific institutions, and are thus positioned to deflect certain types of research, especially those related to free energy / anti-gravity, as we shall discuss in Volume II. Richard Hoagland and the Enterprise Mission, working with Lt. Col. Tom Bearden, have shown how such suppression efforts trace back to the 19th century, at least. The great 19th century pioneer who analyzed the behavior of the electromagnetic (EM) wave was Sir James Clerk Maxwell. His equations, known as ?quaternions,? were used to map out the full, hidden internal structures of the EM wave in full 3-D view, with over 200 equations altogether. When you analyze all 200+ quaternions as a group, you see the geometry of a tetrahedron inside a sphere. This is the hidden secret of the electromagnetic wave, the underlying structure that determines its behavior as it moves along ? and Oliver Heaviside and others, who reduced Maxwell?s equations to four basic quaternions and declared the hidden geometry to be ?occult nonsense?, vigorously removed it from all academic debate. Had this not been done, we may have ?solved the puzzle? far earlier along.



There is no direct way to prove that those from the secret groups inspired this political move on Maxwell?s work, but it is exactly what we would expect based on their own system of beliefs that they are sworn to uphold on pain of death. An even more obvious example was the demonizing of the ?aether? concept through using the results of the Michelson-Morley experiment as ?proof.? 19th century mystic Madame Blavatsky predicted that the aether would be removed from discussion, and that ?the pillars of science would come down along with it.? We will discuss this more fully in volumes II and III. Even now, the anti-aether bias is so strong that you will be almost immediately dismissed if you try to bring it up in a scientific discussion ? but we are not concerned, as time and proof will heal this wound.



Once we do accept the existence of a fluidlike aether at various levels of density, where each density has a different quality of vibration, then we realize that certain clear geometric forms will emerge at the various ?pure? frequencies. Indeed, geometry is the single most important aspect of the aether?s behavior in terms of being able to construct stable structures, such as crystals. Without the geometry, matter would not be possible, as geometry is what allows the ?field bubbles? of the aether to clump together in precise, organized patterns, forming specific molecules. Otherwise, the best we could hope for is that the spheres would line up pole-to-pole, and otherwise be free flowing around each other ? and this behavior would not be complex enough to build matter. The tips of the geometries have more strength to attract each other than the other areas on the surface of the sphere, as we shall discuss below, and this allows the spheres to organize into non-random ?matrix? patterns.


Gene

 

[candid]

Gene,

?In the East, they still know much of what we have long since forgotten.?

I question whether this is true. The ?easterners? I?ve had opportunity to chat with about such things as Yi, seem completely clueless, other than some possible new age ideas, probably read from some western magazine or have seen in a western movie (not the cowboy kind). There?s one young Chinese woman I call ?rain beating on my window? because she?s so persistent in wanting to know about Yi and related matters. Me, an old western chap, teaching a bright Chinese woman about ideas originating in her home land. It?s an irony, really.

But your main point isn?t lost on me at all. I believe also that every contained energy has a memory. I think it?s a beautiful idea. But I do wonder whether a Samurai sword used for cutting a wedding cake is really a bad memory. Perhaps more for the Samurai than for his sword? The sword, unlike the swordsman, acts as an integral part with its environment. Well actually, the swordsman does too, but perhaps he forgets.

 

[gene]

Hi Candid

Your point is well taken. By Easterner's I guess I mena the old Tai Chi masters, and the Buddhists Taoists etc. Now days the East has become very westernized, and the old ways have been replaced by McBurgers, and McFries.

To some masters, the cutting of the wedding cake would be bad only in the sense that it does not have the same energy as the energy of the training. I doubt the old master lost any sleep over it, of course he didn't know. Another analogy would be the karate gi, or uniform, which gets washed every day, for obvious reasons, and the belt, which is never washed, because that would be "washing the energy of the training out of it." Not that it doesn't remember, it just gets a dose of a different kind of energy.

Gene

 

[candid]

Gene,

An idea I?ve been particularly intrigued with lately is that consciousness exists in all things. (How else could things have memory?) It?s pretty basic to ancient earth religions, but in these modern times, where the Devine is seen as coming from above, it?s a somewhat foreign idea.

Joseph Campbell tells a story of large tree that had grown through his front porch. A large vine grew next to it, wrapping itself around the tree. When the vine blossomed, the flowers opened toward the sun, before the sun was even fully risen. His point, of course, was that the plant has intelligence built into its life. Perhaps harder to see or imagine in a rock, but I find no problem seeing a rock as having intelligence. Everything which is shares the one intelligence from the one source of intelligence. This is the unity of the universe. Now, if only we humans could get over ourselves and cooperate with this intelligence.

That said, the destructive powers at large also play its part in this story. Life grows at the rate of death. One makes the other happen. From becoming, to being, to becoming again. This is easier seen in the plant world cultures than in the hunter cultures, but it?s true for all things.

 

[gene]

Candid

That is exactly what the new physics is all about. The law of one. It is all one. It is all one consciousness.

Gene

 

[candid]

eeyup.. gathered that. I'm not inclined to try and figure it all out scientifically, but I think it's cool that others like yourself do.

 

[gene]

Hilary

The first part of the following article might be what Braden was referencing.

http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/Articles/2-5/Benford.htm

Gene

 

[gene]

Martin

This is not where I got the info on the michelson-morley experiment either, but it does discuss it, and I think it is an interesting page.

http://www.keelynet.com/gravity/searl3.htm

Gene