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Iching stock: Wang Chi Iching Hexagram 36 for 2020; Coronavirus

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On March 5 2020, I published my iching findings on COVID-19 on the website below

https://taoscopy.com/forum/english-...ng-stock-wang-chi-iching-hexagram-36-for-2020

I will repeat the key findings here in this community

Iching stock: Wang Chi Iching Hexagram 36 for 2020

03/05/2020, 04:03:04 PM

Wang Chi Iching

Wang Chi Iching is a Chinese language iching bible from ancient times. A hexagram is mathematically computed for each year. For 2020, hexagram 36 Ming Yi governs the year from Feb 4 2020 to March 3 2021.

According to my computation and data mining, Hexagram 36 appears every 62 years in Wang Chi Iching.

Virus outbreak
2020 Outbreak of COVID-19 pandemic. It happened in Wuhan and other parts of the world.

1958 (2020-62 =1958) 1957-1958 Pandemic (H2N2 virus); https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-res...-pandemic.html. The outbreak happened in China and the same viral infection spread to the world. 1 million human lives were loss, with 7200 death in the US.

1896 (2020-62-62 = 1896) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_disease; Erythema infectiosum or fifth disease is one of several possible manifestations of infection by parvovirus B19. Famine in Northern China

Meaning of Ming Yi Hex 36

King Wen was imprisoned in ancient times and later released.
In 2020, most nations are lock down. Residents have to stay home (a modern form of being trapped to avoid community spreading of the COVID-19)
You can see the similarity here.

Analysis of Hexagram 36 for viral diseases
By classification, hexagram 36 is a soul drifting hexagram.
▅▅ ▅▅ parents gui water you metal (news, government)
▅▅ ▅▅ brother gui water hai water (medical staff)
▅▅ ▅▅ officer gui water chou earth (disease) – host line, chou earth month: Jan 4 to Feb 3
▅▅▅▅▅ brother si fire hai water (medical staff) (hidden line wife/wealth mou earth, wu fire)
▅▅ ▅▅ officer si fire chou earth (disease), chou earth month: Jan 4 to Feb 3
▅▅▅▅▅ child si fire mao wood (drugs)- guest line

The above reading confirms the bad news for COVID-19 appeared between Jan 4 to Feb 3 (chou earth month – officer line = illness/disease). See line 36.6, 36.2, 36.4.

The child line is the drug and is month void under the chou earth month (Jan 4 to Feb 3, ding fire chou earth). Therefore, there is no medication available.

However, by March 4 or earlier, the month is mao wood and the drug becomes the day commander. HCQ (hydroxychloroquine) and AZI (azithromycin) is now used (may be considered statistically successfully) in a small clinical trial in France to treat patients with the early stage of COVID-19 infection.

Since the parents line (WHO) is you metal which is month conflict with the time mao wood (March), the WHO becomes concern, but it cannot provide any solution.

The medical staff is hai water at line 3 and line 5. In Feb 2020, the yin wood month is coupled to the hai water. The medical staff is tied down to treat patients.

Since yin wood (February) and hai water (medical staff) match the criteria yin wood – hai water mutual damage, therefore some of the medical staff died or got infected in the line of duty.

Officer line 2 (COVID-19) illness in the lower hexagram (epicenter), and line 4 is the outer door position. As human travels, there are new epicenter. Now there are many regions affected.

Hexagram 36 (Upper trigram Kun earth; Lower trigram Li fire)
It is fire under earth. The fire cannot function properly to generate heat and light.

Hexagram 36 & Financial Market
Hexagram 36 from my unpublished book means:

36 Inauspicious. Financial luck is bad. Transaction is not successful, investing will result in losses. In time of danger and facing a high risk environment, do not stand out alone. Be cautious to avoid a disaster. Meanwhile, regulate one's expenditure to avoid further financial loss, and deficit. In time of bad financial luck, one is depressed and lost. However the bad times are temporary, there is light at the end of the tunnel.
36 Inauspicious. Stock market is shaking up and down, a stock market crash is inevitable.

In 1958 (2020-62 =1958), Dow Jones dropped 15% in the lower half of 1958. The current stock market is at between 35-40% drop. Therefore, more drop in the index to come.

Additional Notes
I had successfully predicted the timing of the downturn of the stock market. The use of such methodology is beyond the scope of this post and Wang Chi Iching.
 

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Thank you so much.
Does this hexagram indicate how long the disease and the down turn of the economy will last?
 

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wow how interesting, did you see my reading above yours, my personal reading I received 59.2 thats what i thought light at the end of the tunnel, but when??

Steve
 

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Thanks LL. I am wondering if this hexagram indicates that the disease and/or down turn will last the entire year or if it means that only the specific months of February and March are bad.
 
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While your prediction is interesting, I can't help but feel you're doing a bit of 'cherry-picking' here: selecting facts, meanings and information so the prediction matches what you want it to say. For example:
On March 5 2020, I published my iching findings on COVID-19 ... According to my computation and data mining, Hexagram 36 appears every 62 years
You name three pandemics and and famines, but your Hex 36, Ming Yi, sixty-two-year cycle misses many, many - or almost all! of the - pandemics and famines, including:

* 1918 Flu pandemic, the worst in recent history with 500 million est. deaths
* 1347-1351 'Black Death' when a third of the world's population my have died, and the ...
* 1959-1661 Famine in China where 25-55 million people died

So, if your Hex 36, sixty-two year cycle missed these and many, many other pandemics and famines - in fact most of them - how accurate a prediction can it be?

Hexagram 36 & Financial Market .... I had successfully predicted the timing of the downturn of the stock market.
Your prediction is dated from early March, yet there were signs well before this of at least a down-turn or a recession in the market, including the fact that at least two US Senators sold off their stock in mid-February!

And my financial planner was talking to me about a down-turn in the market way back in December or even earlier! - and he was planning accordingly way back then!

Your Hex. 36 sixty-two year cycle also misses the Wall Street Crash of 1929, and the most recent crash or 'recession' of 2008-2009. So, again, it doesn't seem to me that your reading here is very accurate or inclusive, and if you're giving us a March prediction, maybe its too little, too late?

Meaning of Ming Yi Hex 36 - King Wen was imprisoned in ancient times and later released. In 2020, most nations are lock down. Residents have to stay home ...
This is perhaps one aspect of Hex. 36 - Brightness Hidden, or Enshrouding Oneself; however, I see the connection with King Wen as being more about how he carried himself, his attitude, and less about the actual imprisonment and release.

For example, the Commentaries say this: 'Inwardly coherent and bright, while outwardle flexible and compliant ... The Sovereign Wen applied this.'

Hex. 36 is not necessarily about one's light - Li - being 'trapped' as one might feel trapped at home during a pandemic. It can also be about hiding one's light or creativity, etc, until you feel ready to share it. It can be more akin to when we bank a fire or turn down the flue to keep the fire slowly burning throughout the night, so we can then re-light it in the morning.

So for me, another way of applying the trigrams might be:

In these time of great difficulty:

Inwardly: Fire, Li, to keep our focus, to seek answers, to shine a light into the dark, perhaps too, to keep one's inner flame, passions and home fires lit! And ....

Outwardly: Earth, to be accepting and nourishing of ourselves and others. To take what we find out from our inner clarity and apply it in the real world.​

Best, D
 
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Thank you so much.
Does this hexagram indicate how long the disease and the down turn of the economy will last?

Let forget about the financial part and simply predict the next few months on the topic of possible ending of the pandemic crisis:

伏神    坎宫:地火明夷(游魂)Hexagram 36
         【本 卦】

▅▅ ▅▅ 父母癸酉金  Parents you metal

▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟癸亥水  Brother hai water

▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼癸丑土 世 Host officer chou earth

妻财戊午火 ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟己亥水  Brother hai water

▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼己丑土   Officer chou earth

▅▅▅▅▅ 子孙己卯木 应 Guest Child mao wood

In Hexagram 36, 36.4 and 36.3 officer line chou earth represent virus (disease). To predict the immediate future, I bring in the Bazi’s 12 life stage of pillar analysis and advance method of 5 element analysis.

Chou earth represents earth with moisture.

36.4 is the host line with chou earth as the viral disease.

Virus needs a host to infect (36.4 is the host line)

36.2 is another chou earth as the viral disease

Timing:

Feb 4 – Mar 4 yin wood month; earth element in sickness position. Viral diseases cause illness.

Mar 5 – Apr 3 mao wood month; earth element in Death (死) position. The human host died of viral infection. Chou earth as host line at 36.4

Apr 4 – May 4 chen earth month; earth element as month commander supporting the chou earth viral infection. Earth element in Burial (墓) position. People died of the illness are buried. This means more people died of the viral infection.

May 5 – Jun 4 si fire month; earth element in End (绝) position (stage of extinct). With the summer approaching, community transmission become a lesser concern. Virus does not like the hot sun.

Jun 4 – Jul 6 wu fire month; earth element in Conception (胎) position. Since hexagram 36 is kun earth above li fire which block the sunlight. Now the sunlight is strong, the 36.3 hidden line wu fire becomes strong and the brother line hai water line 3 and 5 are weaken. The medical community (brother) is now tired of the past few months of intense work.

Jul 7 – Aug 6 wei earth month; earth is in the stage of Nurture (养) position. It is also the hottest month of the year. Sunlight is strong, it may conclude the virus infection is now contained until the coming winter months.

Wei earth + Hai water (line 2 or 5) + mao wood (line 1) forms the effect of wood. Wood is medicine and drugs. This situation suppresses the virus infection and transmission problem for now.

Aug 7 to Sept 6 shen metal month; earth is in the Birth (长生) position. The virus plans for its return in the winter months (e.g. January 2021 chou earth month) if the medical community cannot identify a prevention solution or cure. The five element fire represents the wealth and now it is in illness position for fire. The financial impact is now being assessed.

Sept 7 to Oct 7 you metal month; this is the eight month of the year. Economical disaster is now being realized. You metal represents the government and regulatory bodies. It is the parent line in line 6, these organization and government leaders may have to accept responsibility on what had happened. Earth is the virus and it is now in the defeat position. WHO will announce certain countries have their virus situation contained.

The life cycle of the virus lives the shortest under hot weather in open air and surfaces. Therefore, from July 6 to Aug 22 (hottest season of the year), one would expect the COVID-19 to subside.

Based on the SARS crisis in 2003, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002–2004_SARS_outbreak; Not a single case of the severe acute respiratory syndrome has been reported in 2005 or in late 2004. In July 2003, the SARS outbreak was contained in most countries.

2020 is geng metal zi water year. After Aug 8 2020, the zi water becomes dominant. Zi water (represents medical staff) and it is coupled to line 36.4 and 36.2 chou earth. The virus does not disappear and the medical research and support system need to be in place for the time up to Feb 4 2021.

Chou earth is in the position of grave under the year Geng metal 2020. If this concept is correct, then chou earth virus and human host (host line 36.4) are in the grave position up to August 8 2020. So far, the death toll has been quite high globally.

The future also depends on the performance of each individual country’s government in dealing with the COVID-19 threat to human health.

After each market melt down, statistics and financial experts predict the recovery time of about 2.5 years. In checking the past statistics, the index gains back about 18% in the first year from the bottom number and may be another 15-18% in the second year. These numbers are useless because it does not reflect the employment situation and welfare of the working class.

A more interesting analysis should involve when the energy market recovers (price of crude oil, OPEC & Russia issues). This topic is beyond the scope of Hexagram 36.

Hexagram 36 does not indicate the future raised by your query. I developed the innovative technique in using Bazi life cycle method to evaluate the five elements involved in life cycle prediction of the pandemic. I will know by September whether the above proposed method is correct.
 

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Thank you so much! I hope you continue to post your ideas!
 

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Just to clarify

Issue #1 Wang Chi Iching

Wang Chi Iching bible assigned one hexagram per year for the past and future. In my iching mathematics research, I discovered that each hexagram appears every 62 years in Wang Chi Iching.

For those years you mentioned, you have to use the hexagram assigned by the Wang Chi Iching bible to perform the analysis of that particular year.

One cannot blindly go against what is recorded in that bible to apply hexagram 36 to very viral disease year to perform a reading analysis. Hexagram 36 is only related to 2020, 2020-62, 2020-62-62 years. I simply present the facts from human history and confirm all 3 years that are 62 years apart with viral pandemic issues. It is the result of fact finding in the discovery phase and not a iching prediction.

I first disclosed the above information with certain friends on Feb 1 2020 and did the analysis in January to warn them of the situation of coronavirus outbreak in other parts of the world, shortly after the Wuhan virus outbreak.

I finally share the same information in this community because I realized that all the posts in Asian Iching community think that hexagram 36 re-appear every 60 years (Bazi cycle) instead of 62 years as recorded in the Wang Chi Iching.

Issue #2 Financial market

Concerning stock market prediction of market melt-down, I did not use hexagram 36 to predict the timing of market meltdown. Hexagram 36 has no wealth line. It is hidden. Hexagram 36 is a very bad sign for individual readings on a stock.

As a result, I conduct Iching mathematics research in early January 2020 and predict the time of the stock market collapse to avoid financial losses. The funds were pull off the market by February 19 2020. I made an exception to share that mathematical information in other forum Taoscopy elsewhere in early March. The situation is not an aftermath.

I never disclosed the information in the public domain before my predicted timing because it is a business and a hobby. I cannot accept liability (40% drop Vs rise of every 100) if my prediction turns out to be wrong.

I specialized in looking at a price chart for a stock or a key business sector and attempt to predict whether the stock price will rise and fall in the next few hours and next few days by using a combination of iching mathematics and hexagram analysis. The methods remain a trade secret and cannot be shared in the public domain.

For example, the stock price of one US real estate income fund stock was 4.48 last Thursday (drop from 16.0 in Feb). The price is 9.30 this Wednesday. That same stock pays 7.5% dividend when it was 16.0. The financial advisers on the web recommend buying at 16. I prefer to believe in my own analysis than the financial advisers.

Financial gain brings human greed. As a result, I would not dare to share my iching analysis of stock value prediction. As Taoist can turn rock into gold and all of a sudden, the gold becomes the rock again. Iching mathematics helps to determine the time of entry and exit on stock trading.
 
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Hexagram 36 is only related to 2020, 2020-62, 2020-62-62 years.
So first a question: does this 62-year cycle only go back to two cycles, to 1958 and then to 1896? Or does it continue on, going back every 62 years ....?

Second point, I guess I'm really not following how you're applying this, since there are bad things, such as finanical crisis, and pandemics, and famines in a lot of other years besided these three (and I mentioned at least a half dozen of them above). Using your logic, any and all the hexagrams could then indicate famine, financial disaster, disease, natural disasters, etc. happening in any year, so to say 'bad things happened in the Hex. 36 years' really doesn't mean anything.
As a result, I conduct Iching mathematics research in early January 2020 and predict the time of the stock market collapse to avoid financial losses. ....
I didn't see that you said you'd done your financial reading back in Jan 2020; it seemed to me you were talking about what you did in March and that it all involved Hex 36, so hence my confusion.
 
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Timing: .... Feb 4 – Mar 4 yin wood month; earth element in sickness position. Viral diseases cause illness ....
So, are you saying you did this reading about the COVID-19 outbreak back on Feb. 1, and you did the financial part back in January, but you then wrote about it as if it were an early-March reading?

At this point, the skeptic in me can only say, we'll have to wait and see. But already, in some ways, I'm not feeling the love; for example:
Jun 4 – Jul 6 wu fire month; .... The medical community is now tired of the past few months of intense work.
I hate to break the news to you, but the medical community is already tired, frustrated, and angry from what they are having to deal with! We don't have to wait until June for that to come true!

Aug 7 to Sept 6 shen metal month; .... The virus plans for its return in the winter months ... if the medical community cannot identify a prevention solution or cure.
That's sort of hedging your bets, don't you think? We might have a cure, or maybe we won't? It's like saying, 'it's likely to rain tomorrow unless the meterologist are wrong about their predictions - in which case, it won't rain!'

The financial impact is now being assessed .... Sept 7 to Oct 7 you metal month; this is the eight month of the year. Economical disaster is now being realized.
Your prediction is that we'll have to wait until Aug for the financial impact to be assessed, and wait until Sept. for it to be realized? Again, that's all happening right now, and to predict that it might get worse in the coming months .... the phrase 'it's not rocket science' comes to mind ....

But as I said earlier, we'll just have to wait and see.
 
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