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ScorpioC

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I have an insane, drive myself out of mind "crush" (for lack of a better adjective) on Y. The most I can get him engaged in is small talk. Frustrated with that, I asked, Why won't he talk to me? And got 39.1.4 to 49.
1. Going on, limping; coming back, praise
4. Going on, limping; coming back, connection

Does this mean if I keep trying he'll "get it"? Is that the 'radical change'?

Does he know I like him? 40.1 to 54.
1. No mistake (without a doubt?)

Will he reciprocate? 39 unch (a struggle) Does he want to? 53.3.5.6 to 2. (not sure about this...yes, but he'll take his time?)

I thought I had gotten pass this, but I find now its worse than ever (oh joy) now I really want his attention.
Thoughts on the above?
 
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Hi Scorpio,

I have always found it difficult to speculate on other people's feelings and wishes by asking the Yi. In this case I would suggest questions putting yourself in the picture.

That said, I understand how anxious you feel for answers (been there, got the T-shirt :D ) so I will give it a go.

Why he wouldn't talk to you? 39.1.4 >> 49 - Something prevents him from doing so. Whatever it is, it could be just in his head or external circumstances.

Will he reciprocate? 39 un - Again, obstacles in the way.

Does he want to? 53.3.5.6 >> 2 - That gives me the impression that through a very slow process there might be some sort of understanding between the two of you. But, again, this is my impression by reading all lines together, I don't see this consolidating in a relationship, if this is what you want.:bows:
 

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Did he seek you out first, or did you initiate the furtherance of a relationship? If you did, assuming he is not a shy guy, you will be put you on the back burner: in other words - you're plan B. Read my words carefully. Assuming he is a shy guy, he is testing the water in order to build his confidence. If he is sure of what he wants, you are temporarily annoying to him and may see you as possibly clingy. Please excuse for being blunt in my "opinions", but, even as an American, political correctness is not my forte. For me, "political correctness" is a euphemism for not offending the psychologically immature.
 

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Beyond_the_veil,

Nothing has been "initiated". Periodically, I have to deal with him on a mutual cause so we speak (small talk) because its polite to do so. I don't know if he's shy or not, re: relationships. As far as the 'cause'...definately not shy. I tread extremely lightly, because I feel 'transparent'. I just wish there was more opportunity to get to know him better.
 

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I just asked, Am I "plan B" to Y and got 1 changing to 2. (Honestly, I have no clue here.)
 

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You know, I can relate to how you feel. I worked for this gal who had an extremely powerful influence on me. I was infatuated with her so much that for months on end I could not stop thinking about her no matter how hard I tried. Believe me, I tried and the thought of wanting to be with her would break through. Unfortunately, there were to many flies in the ointment and things were sabotaged. If I could suggest anything, it would be to try and tailor back the hope and enthusiasm so as to protect yourself from being hurt through missteps of your own, or being let down by "Y". I do wish you the best in your pursuit, but please try your best to be as moderate as you can. Good luck. :)
 

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Can I assume from your name you are a scorpio? I'm an Aries Sun/Scorpio Moon and I can't tell you what the readings mean, but those of us with scorpio in our charts tend to pine after people who don't want us back, don't we...?
 

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Honestly, I HATE being in that emotional state! I took a real good look in the mirror....pretty sure that "cured" me. lol (ah...feel better ;) )
 
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I am still in favour of avoiding questions that try to find out what the other person has got in mind. Why not ask the Yi point blank what you can achieve if you take a certain course of action ? ;)
 

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Well Miriam, I asked what would happen if I dropped a hint if I really liked him and got 25.1.2.5 to 64. When I read anything close in the archives it didn't seem positive. On line I seemed to say

25. Innocense, success only if you know you'll succeed (??)
1. A. Maintain an open mind and follow the intuition of the heart.
2. A. You aren't out to make a point, but to do something for its own sake.
B. "Don't count your chickens before they're hatched."
5. A. Do nothing and things will improve by themselves.
B. You bear the illusions of others as if they were your own. Co-dependence helps nobody.
C. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
64. Unfinished business (??) but reading it says 'nothing to gain'
(1. A. Your assumptions in the matter at hand are premature and ignorant of their consequences.
B. You are rashly presumptuous.
2. A. "Cease and desist."
B. Slow down; curb your impatience to advance; control your enthusiasm; restrain your flights of fancy.
5. A. Look for the light, then follow it.
B. Clear perception enables you to differentiate the situation.)
I asked would he laugh at me and got 22.3 to 27
I think its best to keep my mouth shut. (suffer in silence lol ;) )
 
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Hi scorpio,

It doesn't look promising, does it? But it doesn't mean that you shouldn't do. This reading makes me think that something good might come out of this. I wonder if that is because you will see what he is really like ;)
 

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This reading makes me think that something good might come out of this. I wonder if that is because you will see what he is really like ;)

Yeah, like, "What starts out as sugar in the mouth, ends up as sand in the belly." Been there, done that.
 
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Hi beyond the veil,

You're using my words out of context to give them your own interpretation. It is also out of context considering the whole thread.
 

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While I did use your words, my intention was to show that all that glitters is not gold. I did not, nor will I put words in your mouth. The sarcastic gesture is purely of my own volition. Fortunately, I happen to see things from two sides. Let me relate. I met a girl who happened to be very pleasing to me at first sight, but the more I talked with her she seemed to be more focused on different life aspects than I am. Hence my statement, "What starts out as sugar in the mouth, ends up as sand in the belly." While I do understand your point of view, my dialectic is for the understanding that there are two sides to every coin. Did you also not say that, "It doesn't look promising, does it?" What I am saying is that life is full of uncertainties and the quote really had nothing to do with you personally...it was just a jump off point.

ScorpionC, I know how hard it is to desire and be in want when it comes to things intimate. Girlfriend, all I am saying is go in with eyes WIDE OPEN. You can play a tight game and not win, you can play a sloppy game and wonder how you won. The hexagram 25 essentially means that even though you naturally do the right things, nothing good is promised; essentially, bad things happen to good people. That is MY interpretation of hex 25...and I am willing to be wrong.
 
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Since I will see him tomorrow night (and have spoken to him over the phone since the last function) I asked, What can I expect? 41.4 to 38. That's kind of confusing since so far, it hasn't seemed promising in any way according to the above.

(There's a part of me wondering if "the ice will melt" but it sure doesn't appear to be any "global warming on this glacier". I was intriged with your comment Mirian about what good may come out of it. At the moment, nothing has changed ... that I'm aware of. Beyond_the_viel, I understood what you meant. (We are after all talking about a crush...crush = blind as a bat, usually.)

41 I guess is decreasing, "compesating sacrifice"
Line 4
A. A decrease in error is an increase in truth.
B. The elimination of imbalance promotes union; the elimination of illusion makes room for joy.
C. The one above (the Self) accepts your aid, endorses your action, etc
38 mutual alienation
I'm not sure how this should be interpreted. I looked to 38.4 for a clue, but it just confuses me more.
 
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Hi Scorpio,

The way I see it, 38 (your relating hexagram) is saying where you both are, as it shows the difference in view, attitude, approach. That is the moment: you don't see things eye to eye (in the relationship department, anyway).

What can you expect tomorrow? Hex 41 line 4 states that "less is more". Conditions improve by decreasing. Either there is something excessive that needs curbing or there is something that is not quite right that needs correcting. That means that there is something standing between you and him.

Well, I wish I could tell you exactly what it is. In your position I would think along the lines. What is it that might look too much? Are you expecting too much of him? Are you giving away signs of anxiety? Are you showing more emotions than he can cope with?

When I said the other day that something good might still come out of this, I was referring to Hex 25, because I believe that at some point you are going to see him as he really is, which I think it would be the beginning of sorting the whole thing, in a way or the other.

Hope that helps a bit :bows:
 

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Well, here's your update. The both of you were correct. To make a long story short, he 'threw me a line' and the second I 'bit' (believed he was being nice) he 'yanked my teeth out.' He completely set me up for a decision he made, (which I knew nothing about) ... just in case it was seen unfavorable within the group. And the more I tried defending myself, the more he threw blame. Wow! I was humiliated. So I'm now the 'bad guy' and he's 'the rose'. It was when you speak, someone takes your words and completely switches the meaning. (.. boy, was he could at it!) I asure you, it has been a 'quick crush.' Even though I had no 'ammo', I remembered what you guys had mentioned here during all of that. :) Thanks!
 
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Hi Scorpio, sorry to hear that, but at least, as I said, now you know what he is really like. It's hard, I know, but you can now start moving on. That's another thing with hex 25 line 5: the problem is not you, it's the other.

Thanks for updating, it helps a lot with the interpretations on the forum. Take care.:bows:
 

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