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I know I've asked this question before, but I can't seem to get my ex off my mind. No matter what I do. I love him more than anything but I'm not sure if he'll ever come back. It's been over a year since we've last spoken to each other.

I asked if I would hear from him at the end of this year.
43.1 changing into 28

I casted a second reading, asking if we would be together in 2013 (a fortune teller predicted this for me)
30.2.5. changing into 1

I know it's easy for people to say just move on. I've tried for a year now. I can't let go of him. Without him, I am incomplete. My life is meaningless.
 

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Hi glampradachick9,
what do you think does 43.1 > 28 tells you?

43 means you get finally free from a bad habit, an obsession or a person (by fighting against) who or which is not good for you. Look at line one and there you see a warning (!). This Change into 28 which means there is too much of something. It is a very critical situation where one false move can cause the Preponderance of the Great. The challenge at 28 is to AVOID the preponderance of the Great.

30.2.5
Okay this is not easy to read but I try. 30 is light, awareness and dependency. Positions 2 and 5 are good, because in the middle of the trigrams. Both are dependend on each other, but it is no sexual relationship because both are yin. If you read the lines from the bottom to the top: 2nd means be very balanced, 5th means you get an great insight after you get balanced ;-) I know because I changed this line a couple of times and I tell you: This means a great/huge insight :)

This one changes into 14.5 (if you write down all changes) And this means: Being independend, sovereign.

This finaly changes into 1 which means, heaven itself will act. So the good in you will win, easily expressed (sorry I`m german *lol*).

If you ask me: If this guy loves you too, where is he????

Happy thinking.....ahm reading :)

Best wishes Yvonne
 

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Hello,

An obsession is a difficult thing to let go of. Some will say, "if your ex doesn't want to see you, there is no game to play." This is a tough arena, relationships. I have seen people separate, divorce, remarry, come back and sleep with their ex's, sleep with their new partner's exes and ad nauseam. The long and short of all that is: It isn't over till you say it is over.

Hexagram 41 is all about "declines" or "decreases." But, as with any decrease, it always points to the beginning of a later "flowering" IF, and this is a big if, you sacrifice. Sacrifices usually are those things that hold you back or are a stumbling block or old habits or old paradigms that no longer work. If you are willing to sacrifice and burn on the altar the old blocks, bad habits, faulty paradigms, and so forth, and do it now, you can expect big rewards.

The question is, what needs to go? Is it the emotional attachment you have to your ex one that needs to go? I dare say it is. This is why it is called an obsession. Your emotional attachment to the most resistant (insisting this relationship work) is hurting you. Seek the least resistant way and let "fate, God, higher power" show you what you need to do.

If you decide to have courage and pursue your ex, then be prepare for a long uphill battle that might exhaust you, but if you are willing to go that route, you will find MANY spiritual lessons on the way. There is no guarantee that you will get your ex back, but you will indeed grow spiritually. But, do we have to go through pain to grow? You decide, but my experiences have taught me no. the ultimate choice is your choice.

I wish you well. Take care and good luck.
 

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@jbutler: I`m so glad that I`m not the only one which is making happy little accidents *lol*. First: Thanks for your input :) Second: You talked about the wrong hexagram. You talked about 41 but the question was about 43. But don`t worry because I think 41 and what you said fits also in and so we see the intelligence into random accidents/mistakes *happy*. So everything is fine because 41 also talks about from calm down emotions und using them economical and that is exactly needed here in this case.

@glampradachick9:
I feel that I have something to add. In my experiance 30.5 is an insight, a deep insight and it hurts. So it is not a happy shiny insight, at least mostly (not always). The situation at 30.5 is: You have got more than one truth and you don`t know which is the right one.

In your case for example:Truth one: You love him. Truth second: You suffer because of loving him and so you should end up this soul massacre.

At 30.5 you will see which of both is the real truth, the true truth ;) So prepare for some aches. BUT this is a very healing ache and 14.5 will come which means you are, a happy, self confident und independent person. So the good times come back :) For the case that we still have doubts the I Ching add hexagram 1 to the end.

You need to know: The I Ching never tells you what you wishes to hear. It is like a Psychologist. The most amazing, all knowing Psychologist into the world. It knows you better than yourself and it is a spirtitual issue/thing whatever. Means: The I Ching won`t help you to get into an unhealthy relationship or obsession. It helps you OUT!!!! That is the point my dear :cool:

Do you recognize something? The I Ching didn`t answer the question you asked, it answered better, do you SEE? Meditate about 43. that is the root of your problem. There is only one relationship connection between 3. and 6. and this is not a happy shiny relationship (absolutly NOT) but something that really should END (after it is done, whatever has to be done).

If you have got questions to your oracle, just ask :)

Best wishes for your inner peace, Yvonne
 

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THank you for pointing that out. :) Interesting I just got 43.1 on a personal question...hmmm...coincidence? Happy little accident? Perhaps. I like them because it makes me believe my life is being watched by God. Anyway, about 43 line 1, RL Wing says, at the beginning of resolution, you are too weak to begin; moving forward will only leadto mistakes. The conditions and timing are not right.

I hope you do a followup on this in a couple of months to let us know how things are working out.

Take care glampradachick9.

P.S. I got a poster from my cousin last night which said: "I'm so glam, I sweat glitter." Another coincidence I know. I look for groups of threes and sevens. Anyway, take care.
 

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THank you for pointing that out. :) Interesting I just got 43.1 on a personal question...hmmm...coincidence? Happy little accident? Perhaps. I like them because it makes me believe my life is being watched by God.

:)

Anyway, about 43 line 1, RL Wing says, at the beginning of resolution, you are too weak to begin; moving forward will only leadto mistakes. The conditions and timing are not right.

I also have the interpretation of R.L Wing, but of course in german. It is great, it helped me a lot to understand the Hexagramms and lines a lot better!!! I like especially that the unchanged Hexagramms are explained, finaly *Yehaaaa*. And I can say: Yep I can confirm to R.L Wing.

I hope you do a followup on this in a couple of months to let us know how things are working out.

Take care glampradachick9.

Dito :)

About: 43.1 Yeah it can take a while (for to become strong enough for the battle) and I can tell you it IS a battle. I my experiances this hexagram is very exhausting to change, but in the end: 40 :):):) I finaly reached 40 after all and this really feels good. So it was worth the battle ;)

Best wishes Yvonne
 

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thank you guys so much for replying.

I saw a psychic the other day, and she suggested that I message my ex first. She told me that if I love him so much, I need to go pursue him.

And so I did. For hours, I kept trying to come up with ways to start a convo with him.

I sent a message to him on Facebook. I've been so worried ever since.

I'm not sure if he's received it yet, if he's waiting to respond, because so far, I got no message back from him.

Before sending the message, I casted a reading asking if I should message him.
I got 55.4.5.6. changing into 37.

After sending the message, I asked if he was going to respond to it.
I got hexagram 25.1 changing into 12.

Will I ever hear back from him? If he doesn't respond, I'm going to be so terribly hurt :(

P.S. It's my birthday tomorrow. If I could have one gift or wish...it would be him. =/
 
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Hexagram 25.1 to 12

出生时间:年 性别:女 起卦方式:直接指定
起卦时间:2012年10月04日14时23分
起卦农历:壬辰年八月十九日未时

神煞:天乙—丑未 福星—申 日禄—巳 羊刃—午 驿马—申 桃花—卯 华盖—戌
干支:壬辰年 己酉月 戊戌日 己未时
旬空:午未  寅卯  辰巳  子丑


六神  伏神    巽宫:天雷无妄(六冲)    乾宫:天地否(六合)
         【本 卦】           【变 卦】
朱雀       ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财壬戌土     ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财壬戌土 应
青龙       ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼壬申金     ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼壬申金 驿马 
玄武       ▅▅▅▅▅ 子孙壬午火 世   ▅▅▅▅▅ 子孙壬午火  
白虎       ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财庚辰土     ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟乙卯木 世
滕蛇       ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟庚寅木     ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙乙巳火  
勾陈       ▅▅▅▅▅ 父母庚子水 应○→ ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财乙未土
Hexagram 12 means you two cannot get back together. Your personality and style are too different. You have to learn to be without him. Even if you force out a relationship, it will end up in divorce.
He is leaving, regardless whether he contacts you or not.
There is a female in line 6 and she is in conflict with the female in line 3. You are line 4 (host line). The line 6 female is connected to him and probably not you. You cannot control this male. He will not accept.

Hexagram 25 has three conflict pair of lines. For relationship analysis, it is not a good sign for success. Although hexagram 12 has 3 pairs of merging lines, but if you cannot get to him because there is another female rival. This is problem 1. The lack of common ground is issue 2.

I am sorry that I do not have any good news.
 

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@glampradachick9: Sorry my dear, I can just agree to long yi :-(

I give you my reading too and then we have to see what will happen anyway.

55.4.5.6:
No sexual relationship connection at all here, because Relationship connections or corresponding lines have no meaning for hexagramm 55 there are the pairs of the same (yang/yang) important and at the top the 6 line is a very rude and hard/tough person who need to demonstrate his power and as long yi already said: You will never control him.

In my experiances line 55.6 has always represented a MAN, never a woman although the line is yin (!!). But the upper trigramm is male, so maybe this explains something. He will do with you what HE likes and believe me: You wouldn`t like it.

This changes into: 36.5.6 Oh my god !!!, read it by yourself because there is not much to translate I guess. Because I`m pretty sure that YOU are NOT the prince of darkness, he must be.

This changes into: 63.6 If you look back you get in danger, so this happened already I would say.

This finally changes into 37: It`s a good sign for a relationship, but it is unchanged and can also just mean that you are very balanced, maybe after things became clear finally.

25.1 > 12

As long yi said (although I didn`t understand this thing with the other women because there is no yin at the 6th position???) but in generally meaning I`m seeing things same way. Never had luck in relationship questions if I got 25 and 12 is.............the absolutly end of the story because it means: Absolutly no communication or totally disturbed communication, no contact and the both trigramms even moved away from each other. So: One of the worst hexagramms one can get if he/she ask a question concerning relationship.

But I think the psychologist gave you a good advice. Better you tried it and see it really, really clear after you recognize: There is no use.

If he answers I`m afraid you are lost, at least for the moment and so I actually hope that he will not answer although you probably can`t understand my wish yet.

Let us know how things develope.

@long yi: This is fascinating would you mind to explain how you see the second woman, the rivalry? Are you using a special kind of reading the hexagramms? Sorry for asking (maybe) silly questions but I really have no idea.

Best wishes Yvonne
 
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Forty-two, isn't the original hexagram you cast the answer?

Which means, I originally casted 25 and the changing lines went to 12.

I heard that 25 can be good for relationships and may imply some form of communication?

Maybe 12 is when I decide to stop talking to him? Who knows?

Also when you said, "This finally changes into 37: It`s a good sign for a relationship, but it is unchanged and can also just mean that you are very balanced, maybe after things became clear finally"
When you say "balanced," do you mean as in us getting back together or when I decide he's no longer the right person?

And longyi, i'm interested to know who this other lady is as well. I doubt he has any meaningful relationships at this point in his life.
 

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glampradachick9:
I`m not sure if I understand you right, you wish to know more about 25?

You asked two times and I casted the answer of both originally Hexagramms.

1: Has been 55.4.5.6 > 37 it was the answer of the question if you should call him and the hexagramms which appears by changing all the lines at 55 doesn`t show harmony but more a dangerous situation for you, because it seems that this guy is not really a good person and that also suits to 43. you had before. The changing end at 37 and 37 unchanged means: You won`t have problems with him if you keep to your role (R.L.Wing). But that doesn`t need to mean to have a great reunion with him, it just means: There will be no battle if you care about the borders, he set ;)

Apart from that you can read the hexagramms in different ways:
- inner processes
- outer Circumstances
- acting of participant persons (your ex in this case)
or all together. The last is how I read the hexagramms. I look at them and try to feel and understand which line means me, the other person, the circumstances, inner processes, outer circumstances and then I put it all together to a meaning. I try to see the whole thing, the direction of developement and the "quality" of the situation (a lot of bad lines means of course that the situation is not well and a lot of good lines means the opposite). But that is just my own way of reading and there are a lot of other ways to read the hexagramms and get a meaning. That`s why I`m also very intrested into long yi`s technique because that seems to be very different from all I know.

For inner processes 37 means to be very centered, balanced and it describes a harmonic condition. I guess it must be meant as a inner process because the outer circumstances (everything goes fine and you have a great relationship with him, the other meaning) is unlikely if I look at the rest of the hexagramms and lines (if you see the WHOLE thing) because I guess that he is not Mr. Right for you.

Second hexagramm has been 25.1 the originally hexagramm to your second question. Yes maybe the first line could mean a good developement, but definitely not if the hexagramm is changing into 12 (!!!). That is what I mean if I say: Look at the whole thing. If 25 line 1 means that innocent acting causes fortune then it could also mean: It IS fortune when you give him up (hexagramm 12), because he is not good for you ;) *lol*. Sorry.

Yes I also read that 25 can mean some fresh air in relationships, but in my case 25 always was not the wished developement and it even hurt. Would be interesting to know what experiances other have made with 25. Open up a thread if you are interested, I`m at work at the moment so I won`t open up a new thread in the moment, but I would join and read if you open up one.

Is your birthday already? I ask because you live in America and I`m in Germany and so I don`t know exactly what time it is for you.

Best wishes Yvonne
Ps: And... does he call you?
 

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Information for forty two (Yvonne):

There are several ways to analyze an Iching reading:
1. Using the text of the hexagram and the text fo the change line. This is what most people do, but you are restricted by the textbook.

2. Using the Plum Blossom Iching method: each hexagram has two triagram. You analyse the relationship between or among the trigrams. Each hexagram sits in one of the 8 trigram houses.
a. The five elements, the strength of the element is taken into consideration.
b. If there is only one change, the relationship between the upper and lower trigram in the change hexagram is used to predict the outcome of an event.

3. Six line method: within each hexagram, there are 6 lines. There are 5 characters assigned to it. Each line means a certain person, item or event. Each line has a 5 element associated with it.

4. Advanced six line, the relationship of the line is connected to the time of the reading (year, month, day, hr) and the gender of the querent. Out of that, we use detective work to guess the outcome and timing of events. Sometimes, we use the reading to alter the outcome of an event such as interview or business court litigation.

5. Ho Lock Iching: Use the birthday to decode the fortune of your entire life (year by year).

6. Long Yi Iching: Use the lifetime hexagram to connect to 8 letter (birthday) plus the purple star method to decode events and fortunes. This is under development.

7. Iching - Tarot Card conversion: combine both to predict outcome of situations.

Iching learners in China do not know the six line method well at all. As a result, no one can really teach or know how to teach the six line method. There is a reason because one can use six line method to predict the stock value and an investment.

Most so called Iching experts do not know English, even if they know six line method well. In reality, few dare to claim to be an expert. No one can pass a test again and again if the reading is about predicting stock value.
 

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Okay, I'm so sorry guys, but I just wanted to cast one last reading to close this chapter in my life.

I asked if my ex ever got my message on facebook (sometimes facebook doesn't always send messages to the person)
I got hexagram 9.5. changing to 26.

Then I asked why he hasn't responded yet...
and I got
hexagram 36.1.6. changing into 52.

And yes forty-two, it was my bday, so thank you :)

Hopefully I can finally get some insight to what is going on.
 

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@ long yi: I care first about the broken hearts and then we go to science ;)

@glampradachick9: I wished to say: Happy Birthday :) (whenever it was or is) May I ask you how old you are? You can pm me if you like that rather.

Close the chapter sounds: FANTASTIC!!!!:D Okay I guess I can help you to close the chapter.

9.5 > 26: Oh my, yes you can try to ask the I Ching such questions you did here but what answer do you expect? I can imagine no way how the I Ching can answer you to: Did he get my message? Which of all those lines could be an answer to such a question? So I would say the question was not a good choice and so I can read this hexagramm for you but I see no sense into it and I guess you will also not see any sense into it relating to your question.

9.5 describes at least a good friendship and a good understanding but that has nothing to do with your situation (???) Maybe you talked about your problem with a good friend last days? This could be meant but this good friend was at least not your ex.

26. It means to build up a huge amount of moral and spiritual energy because of reservation. This containing oneself is straining, but if you look at the end of the story, the 6th line, you see a great earning of this work at yourself :) But you had it unchanged and not line 6. It was just for to explain you what is the goal at this hexagramm. In your case it probably means to back off from the situation/your ex. This has nothing to do with the question you asked but maybe it makes neverthless a bit sense for you.

36.1.6: Wonderful :) *lol* sorry. The first line is actually wonderful because this means: You will not make yourself to an idiot and I think that is the best birthday present you can give to yourself. It means you will end up with that sh... and you will retain your dignity. That`s really wonderful :)

The 6th line means the same as before: He is the prince of darkness and he will have his own destiny but thanks god in heaven you don`t need to share it together with him.

This changes into 16.6: Did I say wonderful? I mean WONDERFUL :)

Please read 16.6 my dear I guess I don`t need to explain anything :D

This finaly changed into 52 and that means: Finaly silence. Great. I am happy. You are not, I know, but soon you will be again, promised. Think at 14.5 and 1 and soooooooo :)

Free yourself and then you will see good times will come back fast. Look for a better one than your ex was. Ask the I Ching BEFORE ;) It`s just a little hint *lol*. It works ;) I`m still a HAPPY single *lol*. A happy single is at least better as an unhappy part of a couple you know? Keep this in mind and you will make your way.

Best wishes, find your inner peace now, it is over. For you one of my favorite "I need to shed tears" songs:

I Don`t Belong Here

@long yi:
First: Many, many thanks :)

I had no idea... wow I mean that is a LOT!!!! Of course I know the first way, because it is how I read the I Ching too but, all other ways or techniques are completely new for me apart from the blossom method because I talked to Charly and Dharmamom about it recently.

I will copy your post and look for the different ways you mentioned at the internet, but most of all I`m interested into this six line method, because that is simply amazing what details you find out with it. Can you tell me where I can get books or articles in the internet or information about it at all?

What is yong li I Ching? Has it something to do with yourself or do you just used his name as your nickname?

This thing with the birth date sounds also interesting. Wow I see what I did until now is only the tip of the iceberg *ugh*. Thank you very much for telling me :bows:

I`m interested into all ways but first I put an eye on this 6 line method, so if you have got further informations I would be more than glad.

Best wishes Yvonne
 

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@glampradachick9: Ooops sorry, did a mistake :blush:

I`m tierd, nightshift...*lol*: 16.6 was not right (damned), it is 15.6. but that changes not much, because it means that you shall do 16.6 lol. Another happy accident? Who knows, but 15.6 means you shall be a little bit tough to yourself. Simply expressed: Pull yourself together.

take care Yvonne
 

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@long yi: I have to ask here, because I`m afraid I have a problem. Have you got my pm? Because there is nothing into my "sent item" folder and so I`m afraid I can`t write pm`s here.

Best wishes Yvonne
 

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Forty two:

Got your email. Reply has been sent.

There is no systematic theory books in Six Line Iching. I read many of the Chinese literature here and there on the Internet.

It is not the easy thing to learn or teach.

Long Yi Iching Theory: This is my only own theory on certain analysis as based on prior art. I do not have time to write a book or instructions to teach. The difficulty is in the translation of the text and meaning from Chinese to English.

Long Yi
 

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@long yi: Got your pm :)

Good to know that pm works. I will answer now :)

best wishes Yvonne
 

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出生时间:年 性别:女 起卦方式:直接指定
起卦时间:2012年10月06日17时42分
起卦农历:壬辰年八月廿一日酉时

神煞:天乙—寅午 福星—午 日禄—申 羊刃—酉 驿马—寅 桃花—酉 华盖—辰
干支:壬辰年 己酉月 庚子日 乙酉时
旬空:午未  寅卯  辰巳  午未

六神  伏神    巽宫:风天小畜        艮宫:山天大畜
         【本 卦】           【变 卦】
白虎       ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟辛卯木     ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟丙寅木  
滕蛇       ▅▅▅▅▅ 子孙辛巳火  ○→ ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母丙子水 应
勾陈       ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财辛未土 应   ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财丙戌土  
朱雀 官鬼辛酉金 ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财甲辰土     ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财甲辰土  
青龙       ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟甲寅木     ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟甲寅木 世
玄武       ▅▅▅▅▅ 父母甲子水 世   ▅▅▅▅▅ 父母甲子水  

【本卦】
  《小畜》:亨。密云不雨,自我西郊。《彖》曰:《小畜》;柔得位而上下应之,曰《小畜》,健而巽,刚中而志行,乃“亨”。“密云不雨”,尚往也。“自我西郊”,施未行也。《象》曰:风行天上,《小畜》。君子以懿文德。

● 九五:有孚挛如,富以其邻。《象》曰:“有孚挛如”,不独富也。
The overall hexagram: Hexagram 9

There is one yin line (female line) at line 4 and five yang line (5 male lines). From his perspective, you have many male friends. This is his first discomfort.

You assume a leadership role in this relationship and it is impossible for him to feel what is in your heart (what you really wants). This is the second discomfort.

(Six line: line 4 is host line. He thinks of you. 妻财辛未土 (female with earth element – ram. Unfortunately, this ram sits empty under the year of the dragon and under the hour of your reading. This means that you are lonely without knowing what you want. In addition, this ram earth plus the day of the reading (rat water element at house of spouse) hurts each other. Thus a hurting relationship is non-beneficial to both.
From the big picture, you do not accept any of his opinions. The relationship is an unclear one (more than friends, not a couple). This makes the future marriage impossible. Since the female like to be in the pilot seat with the leadership role, she (you have many problems).

Romance and partnership is about monopoly of the female’s heart and soul. Since you have many male friends (from his angle: too many love rivals for him), it is very difficult for him to love you because you are every dominant in this relationship.

Back to the six line analysis, you are in line 1 (host line), thinking of the relationship (parent’s line = marriage document). The 5 element is rat water element.

As stated earlier, line 1 and line 4 combination (rat water + ram earth) are mutually destructive unless something is done to prevent the damage. Since he does not appear in line 1 and you are in a very low position, you are not in any bargaining position.
Line 4
滕蛇       ▅▅▅▅▅ 子孙辛巳火  ○→ ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母丙子水 应
庚子日 (辰巳).
Your soul wants to move forward into a marriage arrangement with him, but the marriage document in the change hexagram. This is a message you sent in facebook.

The line 5 is align with you house of spouse, but the original line is the empty spot in the house of spot. That line is children snake – 5 element fire. The change line is into rat water. Again fire and water cannot mix and reach equilibrium.

There are two female lines in line 3 and 4
勾陈       ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财辛未土 应   ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财丙戌土  
朱雀 官鬼辛酉金 ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财甲辰土     ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财甲辰土  
己酉月 (month of reading; house of marriage, metal – rooster)

Line 3 female has a man behind the line. This is the inner hexagram. The main line female (dragon, earth) in line 3 produces the metal (rooster, female). This is extremely emotionally draining to the female. The female is at the inner door position. The relationship between the man and woman is a very complicated one.

Who is that female? It may be you because this is the lower inner hexagram.
The line 4 is another female (can also be you who he knows).

The hidden man in line 3 is in conflict with another character in line 6
白虎       ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟辛卯木     ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟丙寅木  
The brother line in light six is rabbit wood that conflicts with rooster metal in the line 3 hidden position.
己酉月(寅卯) – month of reading

Line 6 5 elements in hexagram 9 and also hexagram 26 are both in the last line. The person is far away and is taking a step back (from rabbit wood to tiger wood, tiger wood is a departure position 驿马—寅.
Since these two elements are in the empty slot under your house of marriage (month of reading), he is leaving and not looking back.

In Iching romance reading, if you get hexagram 26 as the change hexagram. The female is too strong, and normally the romance will not lead to marriage.

If we examine the relationship between the upper and lower trigram in hexagram 26. Line 1-3 is Chien (metal), line 4-6 is Ken (earth, keeping still). The earth produces the metal.
艮卦生體:
有東北方之財。或山田之喜。或因山林田土獲財。或富貴帶土姓人之財。物當安穩。事有終始。占婚姻以體為主,用為婚姻。用生體,婚易成,或因婚有得。

In the Chinese literature, eventually you will take a long time to find a good partner. Love takes a long time to develop. Your shortcomings are summarized as follows (regardless who is the male):

1. You cannot take the pilot seat. Your way or the highway: means no way. You have to change.
2. Too many male friends give the wrong impression to the male that there are too may rivals – you are not focused in love and romance with loyalty to one single male friend.
3. Engagement into a male – female situation without any clarification is the wrong approach to find happiness that lead to marriage.
4. If he does not know and understand you, but he sees all the pitfalls. He will run. It is not worth his trouble.
5. You find it painful and exhausting to love someone who does not really care because he does not know you and cannot feel your heart.
6. Love is about affordability and desirability. If someone finds you undesirable (based on misunderstanding or no heart-felt), nothing works.

I do not have time to analyze the second reading because this weekend is the Canadian Thanksgiving weekend. Since you place trust in me, I will give you my comments on the first reading. You have to wait for me to have time to review the second reading.

You are a smart, educated and talented person. Your strength can also be your weakness. Iching teaches you to hold still and do nothing. Please do some self-reflection. Love with male friends is about quality and not quantity. You may be desirable to male, but you have really rubbed the male you loved a very wrong way. You cannot blame others. In a relationship, no one likes to be told what to do and have his opinions ignored.

In addition, relationship must be established in a proper, normal way and not in a manner that lacks clarity, and being indefinite. He is not the ex because he is never offered the position of being your trusted lover with a firm understanding of who you are and how you feel. Passion fades out like a candle. True love can solve many obstacles in life.

Relax and self-reflect. You have closed the door on yourself and drive him away. Try not to make the mistakes next time.
 
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Hexagram 36.1.6 to 52
出生时间:年 性别:女 起卦方式:直接指定
起卦时间:2012年10月06日17时42分
起卦农历:壬辰年八月廿一日酉时
神煞:天乙—寅午 福星—午 日禄—申 羊刃—酉 驿马—寅 桃花—酉 华盖—辰
干支:壬辰年 己酉月 庚子日 乙酉时
旬空:午未  寅卯  辰巳  午未


六神  伏神    坎宫:地火明夷(游魂)    艮宫:艮为山(六冲)
         【本 卦】           【变 卦】
滕蛇       ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母癸酉金  ×→ ▅▅▅▅▅ 子孙丙寅木 世
勾陈       ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟癸亥水  ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟丙子水  
朱雀       ▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼癸丑土 世   ▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼丙戌土  
青龙 妻财戊午火 ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟己亥水     ▅▅▅▅▅ 父母丙申金 应
玄武       ▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼己丑土     ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财丙午火  
白虎       ▅▅▅▅▅ 子孙己卯木 应○→ ▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼丙辰土  

Hexagram 36
Line 4:
朱雀       ▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼癸丑土 世   ▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼丙戌土  host line – officer line with ox earth element. You have him in mind and this element ox earth merges with your date of the reading (house of spouse, rat water)
You have lost hope to be with him.

Line 4:
白虎       ▅▅▅▅▅ 子孙己卯木 应○→ ▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼丙辰土  guest line with your soul in it (children line [ your soul], rabbit wood). He thinks of you, but not as a lover because this line has no place in your house of marriage. This is a change line to give the officer line in the grave yard. This means that he has given up on you.
If you compare hexagram 52 line 1 and 4 官鬼丙戌土 (dog earth) and官鬼丙辰土 (dragon earth). The man is in conflict with himself whether he is doing the right thing.
Line 1 and 4 (tiger and bird) means you two do not agree on things. There are disagreement, may not be fights.

Line 2 is the man that you once have a connection to him in the house of spouse.

Line 3
青龙 妻财戊午火 ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟己亥水     ▅▅▅▅▅ 父母丙申金 应
This person has a hidden line (a female). The relationship between the man and the female is a deep seated one. Since this line appears in the inner hexagram, the man may be him who is pig water and the female is horse fire. Water and fire do not mix. This connection is not intimate. Watch and no hug and kisses.

The day of the reading rat water (house of spouse) activates the female to come out of the hidden line to become the female in line 2 of hexagram 52 which is in conflict with the man in line 5 of hexagram 52 (brother line, horse fire).

Line 5 (brother line)
勾陈       ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟癸亥水  ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟丙子水  
This old acquaintance (man) has moved on (pig water to rat water) with one step forward.

Line 6
滕蛇       ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母癸酉金  ×→ ▅▅▅▅▅ 子孙丙寅木 世

The marriage document line (rooster metal) is moved to become children line (your soul, tiger wood). Metal harms wood. Soft metal and hard wood. The change tiger wood is your soul. It has not softened. You are leaving anyways because tiger wood is the empty element under the house of marriage.

Overall picture:
Hexagram 52: 3 pairs of conflicting lines in this hexagram (1,4, 2,5, 3, 6). For marriage analysis, no deal for marriage or a relationship.

Holding still.. do nothing, expect nothing. You two cannot reach agreement on anything. Stop your courtship.

Hexagram 36 also means no marriage, in particular that if there were once an intimate relationship. Both parties are half foot in and half foot out.
Again, there is no good news. One cannot force another person to comply with the way you do things.

Hexagram 52 is the same as King of Cups.
The teaching is:
If you are already in a relationship and draw the King of Cups in a love tarot reading, you may need to start expressing your true feelings. If you are prohibiting yourself from sharing your own emotions, you may have difficulty connecting with your love partner. If you or your partner have a tendency to be explosive, it’s a clear indicator that you are failing to express your feelings consistently. Set aside some time for you and your partner to communicate. Make sure you make room for your partner’s feelings as well. By acknowledging each others emotional needs, a whole new level of intimacy awaits you.
Or
Because the King of Cups tarot card can be associated to creativity and intuition, it’s time to use these skills to attract new love into your life. If you are single and the King of Cups comes up in a love tarot reading, you may need to start visualizing the type of relationship you want. The more clear you become, the better the chance you will meet your ideal mate. It’s also important to really listen to your own needs and emotions. You may need to acknowledge your own true needs and desires that you require in a relationship. Don’t sell yourself short. You are in a position to truly attract what you want.

Please remember, a king has a queen. One must judge whether the queen position is taken by another female or still vacant.


Conclusion

The relationship fails because you have seen thing one-sided and do not know how to share your feelings and communicate the issues involved.

Empathy means put yourself in his spot and look at you. What is acceptable and what is not.

Learn from this lesson and life moves on.

There is no point asking the Iching or me. If you really want closure, talk directly to him in a meeting as mature adults in the month from Nov 5 to Dec 4 2012.
 

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@long yi: Thanks for the lesson :bows:

I understood: Chinese horoscope, changing of the five elements, and tarot all mixed up with I Ching, right?

Still have got no idea how you determine host, guest, brotherline and so on, but I`ve learnt already a lot alone by reading so I will keep watching you ;)

Many Thanks :)

@glampradachick9:
Oooooooookay a "bit" different from my reading *lol* but the consequences are quite similar so I hope this had been the last thing you needed for to go onward on your street of life. Yong Li told you a lot about "what can Iself do for having a harmonic relationship" and I (old woman ;-)) can just agree, so your spiritual birthdays presents are given now, I hope they help you at your new start :)

All the best Yvonne
 

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