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Vissino

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Well, I have a family friendship with my ex's family for years. His mother loves me like her child. After our brokeup with her son she supported me a lot. She tryed to help me.. to reconcial... We haven't communicated 1 month because she was in another country. I think she is back but she hasn't called me yet and I am really anxious. I don't know what is the reason. Maybe my ex asked her not to... or maybe she sees our relationship it's so complicated that she wants to be out of this. Anyway I asked I ching if she is going to contact me (59,1,5/ 41 hidden line 61.5). The answer isn't so clear to me. So, maybe there is someone who can help me and see better..

~Interpretation 1~
59.1 Perhaps, the "horse" is his mother.. so, maybe this line shows communication. She will come to me like a horse... Otherwise, who is the horse?
59.5 The pain of brokeup. The way I feel I think. Also, I have withdrawn (61.5 the line of the ruler. I think she has all this charasteristics of the ruler. She has the strength of character to influence all who are subject to her. I am sure that she tries a lot to change the mind of her son so as to be with me again. She supports truth and she is sincere.)
41 loss... nothing... no communication...

~Interpretation 2~
If line 59.1 is past then she tryed to help me. I am alone in present feeling 59.5. She knows that I suffer (61.5) but she can do nothing 41.

I can't understand. this is way over my head.
 
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Hi Vissino. I hope your situation does get better first of all. First, I think yes/no questions are tougher to answer, so maybe rephrasing it would help, but I'll do that at the end. I do think the resulting hexagram 41 indicates your present situation, decrease in communication. That hexagram does say to have confidence with this reduction, maybe it takes a bit of time for her to communicate with you, maybe she's busy with her own affairs. I think you do very good at interpreting the lines. 59.1-- she is a strong support for you in 'dis-solving' your issues, lessening your pain. I think IC usually focus on the present, so I would disregard your second interpretation. If it is communication you want to keep with her, you might want to ask about: In the coming weeks (days/months/year) how will my communication with X be? You can also ask about your friendship with her in this way in order to verify what you can expect from it. Good luck and Cheers.
 
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Vissino

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Thank you for your answers! Hexagram 41 was never good for me. I don't see communication from the answer... But I think she will contact me anyway. I wish I knew what my answer means.
 
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mirian

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Hi Vissino,

At the core of 59 is the idea that usual structures have now been dispersed, so whatever you have been used to is now fluid, not set in stone anymore, in the process of re-organisation. So what is required of you is to learn how to go with this new set of things that will start taking form. There is a lot of letting go here, starting by your anxiety, worries, preconceptions about the past.
In answer to your question, she might contact you, but both lines 1 and 5 are suggesting that somehow this will be resolved, without causing harm. Line 5 brings relief in times of affliction. And I don't think the horse represents anyone, it is just the energy, the forces at play.

Just to add, in my personal experience you do feel that you don't know exactly where you stand as with hex 59 it is not easy to see what things are going to be like, after all this dispersing. But, as I said, your lines suggest this coming to a point of clarification to ease your anxiety.
 
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Vissino

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Hi Miriam! Do you mean that this painful feeling I feel will be resolved and 41 is the decrease of the pain?
How can you see communication? Because I can't...
 
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mirian

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Hi Vissino,

I don't think that hex 59 is about communication, at least it is not the essence of the hexagram. And I don't think that whether or not your former mother-in-law will contact you immediately is that relevant here. I think this is a small point in the big picture of your reading. A lot of your pain comes from the difficulty to deal with this phase in your life. I had a strong experience with hexagram 59 myself in the past. What you feel is that the structure you had, the things you could rely on, what you knew and were used to, is now as fluid as a body of water, stretching away to the horizon. So where do you stand? In which direction is this taking you to? Where are the boundaries to keep you safe? They all seem to have gone. But your cry is not being unheard. There is somehow help coming your way, in one form or another. But you need to go with this new flow, and part of this process is freeing yourself from the fear and anxiety that got a grip on you.
 
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Vissino

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Miriam your interpretation gives a hope that I will be fine finally... It seems that my pain will be relieved... thank you!
I have put some boundaries finally so as to avoid more wounds.

Sometimes I ching answers what it wants to answer. I can't see communication either. 61.5 seems to represents her. Maybe she is trying a reconciliation.

I asked why she doesn't communicate with me: 7,2,5/8 (2.5)
7.2 I think that she supports her son
7.5 she is trying to help her son and take the lead of our brokeup.. and save the situation... 2.5 she keeps a moderate attitude.
8 seeking union...Alliance...

I think she really tries for a reconciliation between us but she keeps a 2.5 attitude.
 
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I can't see communication
In 59 you have a situation where there is fog but the wind disolves the fog eventually. So, there are obstacles for communication but those obracles will be disolved eventually.
 
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mirian

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I asked why she doesn't communicate with me: 7,2,5/8 (2.5)
7.2 I think that she supports her son
7.5 she is trying to help her son and take the lead of our brokeup.. and save the situation... 2.5 she keeps a moderate attitude.
8 seeking union...Alliance...

I think she really tries for a reconciliation between us but she keeps a 2.5 attitude.
This is the sort of question that gives rise to all sorts of speculation. "Why A doesn't speak to B" ? Because A is busy doing other things? That's the way A feels? Or A doesn't want to speak to B in the first place?

Judging by your post, it appears that what you really want to know is if there will be a reconciliation between you and your ex and you believe that your former mother in law can help. So why not ask the Yi about the chances of this to happen, rather than trying to gauge a third party thoughts?
 
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Vissino

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Finally, I sent her a message.. She hasn't received it that means she is still abroad.

Miriam I don't think I should ask because I have already received an answer from Iching. I had asked a question for this year about my relationship -What it's going to happen with my relationship in 2016? 35,2,3/50 (64.3)

I interpretated as:
35.2 progress in sorrow (my sorrow, i ching showed me sorrow and now I know it's from our brokeup), Then one obtains great happiness from one's ancestress (his mother)...
35.3 a cooperative advance (So why I believe she will manage to change the mind of her son).. 64.3 someone who is alone and is not able to advance (me)..
50 transformation...
I believe that something is being cooked and our situation is going to transform...
 
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mirian

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Personally I don't see this as the question that would define whether or not there will be a reconciliation. In the context of what will happen to your relationship with this person 35.2.3 > 50 is not really saying that you will be back together. I'm not saying that you won't, I'm just saying that based on this reading we cannot tell.
 
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Vissino

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Hi Miriam! My interpretation emanates from answers I have received.

The first time I asked about relationship with him again I received 31 uc.
New beginning between us? 54,1,4/ 7 (40.4)
Will we manage be together again? 48,2,5/15 (39.5)
Reconciliation? 9.4/1
What is going to happen after that? 24.1/2
Will we be together no matter what happened? 39.3/8


So why I still believe in a reconciliation.
 
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mirian

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Hi Vissino,

Thank you for sharing. I hadn't seen your previous posts and I was only commenting on one reading in particular (35.2.3 > 50). Now I can see the whole context of your interpretation and understand where you are coming from. :bows:
 
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Vissino

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I was thinking that I have never asked if she is trying to persuade her son to have a relationship with me:
22.4/30

Very interesting answer!
22.4 Confusion...
Someone wants to unite but it looks like a robber.. but he wants to woo... he is a suitor or partner..
and 30 clarity... clinging...

I think she tries to change his mind.. clear or clarify the confusion and make him cling to me..

PS. Hex 22 makes me think of her.. a very elegant person... who likes adornments... always very beautiful..

What do you believe? Do I interpret correctly?
 
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