Learning from the ancestress 33 > 22

[em ching]

Hello everyone,

Wondering if I could get some help on this reading:

What is the main lesson I need to be aware of, relating to my grandmother (and how she lived her life and related to others)?

33.1,4,5 : 22

Background: she didn't have an easy time of it but was a very proud fun-loving person, though made the biggest mistakes in her relationships.

My initiall impression of this reading was retreat from superficiality ie. retreat from going to great lengths to try and project a certain image? Or be aware that life is what it is - and not to try so hard to be perfect and follow an ideal?

Any ideas very welcome.

I also have something else I'd like to share - I finished my supply serotonin-encouraging 5HTP and have noticed a change in the past couple of days without them (namely feeling sad). I have now started on the traditional herbal remedy for depression called St.John's Wort - to see how they compare.

My question was: Is my present-moment sinking feeling due to a chemical/hormonal imbalance?

2.1,2 > 19

My interpretation here is that line 1 says I need to watch this tendency and not allow it to turn into a slippery slope (perhaps by not dwelling on these feelings) and line 2 - It's just the way I was made? Or natural to feel down? And could Hex 19 be saying that if I approach myself and the good opportunities (which I know I am lucky to have at the mo) with reception and faith - and dedication - I can make up for this, perhaps natural, tendency to depression?

One final question that I could use help on although I think I get it (though not the relating hex):

Am I to live without (a certain person)?
11.4,6 > 14

My take - there was sincerity and trust (line 4) but that was lost (line 6)... is the possession the lesson I've learnt? Or potential between us if there's mutual understanding? I know I really need to learn here, not to be so dependent on relationships which are inevitably subject to change...

Thanks for reading!

:bows:

 

[gene]

em ching

While it is difficult for me to see into this in depth, it would appear from hexagram 22 that your grandmother was very accepting of others. Those that were too difficult for her, she simply disengaged from without creating a scene or any kind of havoc or serious emotional judgement. She was apparently very loving.

Gene

 

[em ching]

Hi gene,

Thanks for your interpretation. The jist of my question though was in the realm of what faults of hers do I also have that need moving away from, in order to be happier. She was loving - but also quite self-centred - to the injury of her children in some ways - but then she was also very supportive. Accepting I'm not so sure - quite a nag! But very proud and strong - a role model in that sense. Her only weakness was... allowing men to treat her badly... no one else could get away with it mind you! And perhaps not being very trustful - but then she had good reason for that (a rather upset beginning and a good few calamities along the way) but she was always able to look back and laugh... spin a good yarn...
She also placed a lot of value on appearances - house proud and always immaculately dressed - so I thought the reading could be reflecting that.... perhaps a need to retreat from following ideals.

:bows:

 

[tigerintheboat]

The Mare Follows the Cues

I finished my supply serotonin-encouraging 5HTP and have noticed a change in the past couple of days without them (namely feeling sad). I have now started on the traditional herbal remedy for depression called St.John's Wort - to see how they compare.

My question was: Is my present-moment sinking feeling due to a chemical/hormonal imbalance?

2.1,2 > 19

My interpretation here is that line 1 says I need to watch this tendency and not allow it to turn into a slippery slope (perhaps by not dwelling on these feelings) and line 2 - It's just the way I was made? Or natural to feel down? And could Hex 19 be saying that if I approach myself and the good opportunities (which I know I am lucky to have at the mo) with reception and faith - and dedication - I can make up for this, perhaps natural, tendency to depression?

Meng, thanks. As soon as I read this, I went to take my first 5-HTP pill of the day. I need reminders!

The other day someone (Hilary, actually) said that I should try to make it easier to understand the answer by working harder on the question. Phrase the question in such a way that I would be more likely to understand the answer. So I pass this on. You asked a yes/no question that included an assumption about chemical or hormonal imbalance...tough to find these terms in the oracle.

My take on this is that you have a purpose but that, like the mare, you must be sensitive to cues along the way. You are noticing that you felt better, less sad, when you took the 5-HTP. The mare generally should follow the clues/cues.

Line 1: What you feel in potential now could harden and turn solid. The implication is that it is not solid yet. From the Wikiwing:

More generally, what you feel in potential now will soon harden into solid fact. Beginnings of earth, the realising power: things are becoming real. There’s a limited window of opportunity to opt in or out, change things or not.

I take this to mean that you do not have a solid syndrome, just the tendency, which could harden if you are careless.

Line 2 is a bit of a mystery to me, but I think it approves of your survey or nutraceuticals, as a survey of the field. From the Wikiwing again on Line 2:

Getting this hexagram means to go forward. Your false assumption will be straightened out, and everything will work out for the best.

Nothing to re-hash, nothing to double-check, no need to re-live the past, everything is ready.

As far as H19, well, something is nearing, perhaps this imbalance you refer to. Again, the ice is not yet solid, and you want to nip this now, before it becomes something solid and official. You do not want to be a victim, you want to be the responsible adult.

Tiger

 

[em ching]

Yes thank you tiger :bows: duly noted. We are creatures of habit after all - must keep chipping away at the ice! To become free like flowing water That'd be good!

Have you ever had any experience with St. John's Wort?

 

[em ching]

The other day someone (Hilary, actually) said that I should try to make it easier to understand the answer by working harder on the question. Phrase the question in such a way that I would be more likely to understand the answer. So I pass this on. You asked a yes/no question that included an assumption about chemical or hormonal imbalance...tough to find these terms in the oracle.

Tiger

Yes - I suppose that could help, but then perhaps you are then limiting your reading to being subjective - and your question itself may be a symptom of having the wrong end of the stick in your situation, or imposing on the reading your expectations? But then I think really thinking about the question also helps condense the answer and makes it then more useful - multiple perspectives on readings can be unhelpful if not counter-productive sometimes!

I've heard someone say that you should have no question - approaching the Yi with no pre-conceived ideas about your situation....
So that is the opposite side of that coin
But I think sometimes you can't help forming a question - wheras at other times, especially when your sitation is all-encompassing - you just want a reading to clean up your mind a bit so sometimes, no question is like the Yi is given the opportunity to tell you something you need to hear, more generally...

 

[tigerintheboat]

Questions

Yes - I suppose that could help, but then perhaps you are then limiting your reading to being subjective - and your question itself may be a symptom of having the wrong end of the stick in your situation, or imposing on the reading your expectations?
I've heard someone say that you should have no question - approaching the Yi with no pre-conceived ideas about your situation....
So that is the opposite side of that coin so sometimes, no question is like the Yi is given the opportunity to tell you something you need to hear, more generally...

I just thought yours was a tough question...how was Yi going to indicate "no hormonal imbalance."

Perhaps the best "non-question" I know is "What do I need to know now?"

But I only did a few experiments with this, and had trouble if the subject was completely open. You know, it could be talking about my health, my business, my family, etc, and if I got for example "increase" or "decrease" or something general, I didn't know what it applied to. So I like to put an area in there, like...

"What do I need to know about this emotional state I feel right now?"
"What do I need to know about my physical health"
"What do I need to know about my emotional health"

Tiger

 

[tigerintheboat]

St. John's Wort

Have you ever had any experience with St. John's Wort?

No, not really, maybe just once or twice...I have some sleep issues and I think I tried it and was unimpressed. I am trying passionflower right now. It has an additive effect with the 5-HTP; see below.

Passionflower (Passiflora incarnate)

Passion flower is calming and sleep inducing, relieves pain, and muscular spasms. It is useful for the treatment of general insomnia, insomnia in asthmatics, hysteria, cramps, and nerve pain.

Passionflower was widely used by the Aztecs as a sedative and analgesic. Its constituents include harmine. Harmine was originally known as telepathine because of its peculiar ability to induce a contemplative state and mild euphoria. It was later used by the Germans in World War II as "truth serum." Harmine and related compounds can inhibit the breakdown of serotonin, therefore their use with 5-HTP would have an additive effect.

How to Use: Take 30--60 drops of tincture forty-five minutes before bed.

St. John's Wort has its own list of side effects, but not as many as the Prozac type drugs.

Tiger

 

[em ching]

Hi tiger,

That's a good idea to put an area of interest in your Q - to keep it broad, but enable you to zero in on your answer in a helpful way.

We'll see how it goes with St. John's... it is a classic though so it must be good for some people! Apparently it encourages serotonin re-uptake, wheras 5HTP, serotonin production... so as long as there's pleanty of serotonin there (hiding ) it should be fine.
I am actually feeling better today than I have been for the past few days, so perhaps there's hormonal issues too... oh the possibilities...

Passionflower was widely used by the Aztecs as a sedative and analgesic. Its constituents include harmine. Harmine was originally known as telepathine because of its peculiar ability to induce a contemplative state and mild euphoria. It was later used by the Germans in World War II as "truth serum." Harmine and related compounds can inhibit the breakdown of serotonin, therefore their use with 5-HTP would have an additive effect.

Sounds interesting!

:bows: