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It's kind of an experiment to ask this question, because I don't have a good idea how to interpret the answers in these kinds of questions. But, why not. Maybe someone has a good idea.

While visiting over Christmas my oldest daughter moved my Grandma's hard drive case and hooked up her new computer hard drive to her Internet connection. :mad: :rolleyes: Neither my daughter or I saw anything sitting on top of the hard drive case. Grandma said she had an external zip drive connected to the hard drive and sitting on top of her monitor, and now it's gone. I know it wasn't there when I saw the room, but I want to try to find it anyway. We just have not seen it in her computer room, but there's a lot of stuff in the room.

Where is it? 61.6 (60)
What happened to it? 48
Is it somewhere in Grandma's computer room? 20.6 (8)
Is it somewhere else in this house? 38.1 (64)

If anyone has any insights, I'd appreciate it. :sigh:
 

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61.6 Cock crowing to high heaven? I say everybody's all stirred up but nothing to fear but fear itself. Maybe it will show up first thing in the morning?
48. It's probably someplace handy but maybe fallen to the floor or in something like fallen down a well.
20.6 - 8 I say it's in Grandma's room. She'll probably have to look high and low for it but 8 makes me feel she'll connect with it.
38.1 - 64 If it's somewhere else in the house I don't think looking for it will find it, it will just turn up by itself.

Best of luck with this. Actually horary astrology is pretty good for finding lost items. Where's Willowfox when we need her?
 

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Funny, this drive is a mercurial thing (information processing) - wood trigam - and that trigam appears in each of the first 3 answers. :)

* Where is it? 61.6 (60)
High place (line 6), on top of something, maybe something that is also mercurial (wood trigram), computer? books? TV?

* Is it somewhere in Grandma's computer room? 20.6 (8)
Probably yes, same indications as in the answer to the first Q.

* What happened to it? 48
Covered by something? Not visible (water trigram - closed eye, refers perhaps also to it being displaced or covered without noticing it, unconsciously)
48 also suggests a deep place but that is less probable because of the earlier answers.

* Is it somewhere else in this house? 38.1 (64)
Guess not ...

Private Yinvestigator :)
 

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autumn said:
Where is it? 61.6 (60)
What happened to it? 48
Is it somewhere in Grandma's computer room? 20.6 (8)
Is it somewhere else in this house? 38.1 (64)

If anyone has any insights, I'd appreciate it. :sigh:

From the Yi's replies the short answer is that is gone. Ask your Grandma if she had a service call visit of any kind recently. Is there a small bathroom close to the computer room or is it close to the kitchen? Most likely was stolen or "borrowed" by someone that has her trust. The good news is that whoever took it cannot use it because it may be an older version of the drive and needs a card that goes inside the computer to work. It is possible that if it was "borrowed" it may be returned without her knowledge and will suddenly "reappear".

Now I'll polish my crystal ball and have another glass of wine. :D

L
 

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rosada said:
Actually horary astrology is pretty good for finding lost items. Where's Willowfox when we need her?
Thanks for the answers, Rosada. I wondered if perhaps 61.6 was an over-reaction, or a misperception of what happened. Yes, Willowfox, please help if you can.

martin said:
Funny, this drive is a mercurial thing (information processing) - wood trigam - and that trigam appears in each of the first 3 answers.
Veeeery interesting. So I guess there probably is a direct answer somewhere. I went in to the room again and stood up on a chair, and funny, there are dozens of zip CDs on top of this large desk where the computer sits. I didn't see the drive, though, but I'll have to look more closely at the top fo the bookcases and the desk.

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Ask your Grandma if she had a service call visit of any kind recently. Is there a small bathroom close to the computer room or is it close to the kitchen?
Yes, just the day after Christmas a man came to service the furnace for a problem with the pilot light. My middle daugther was in the computer room when the man came to service the furnace, so she knows he didn't take it. Yes, just across the hallway from the computer room is a small bathroom. Theft doesn't make a lot of sense, though, because noone except our family has been in the computer room, and noone in the family would ever take something from my Grandma, and especially something like this.

I did wonder/worry if it fell into the trashbin from on top of the computer monitor accidentally. Why do you think it's gone from the answers?

Has it left the house, or is it still here? 42.2 (61)
 
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A library... (or hidden by your own mother???)

Day: Unknown (we needed it to accurate answer)
Month: Rat
Void elements: Unknown (we need to know the day)
Key element: Aspect Money (material posession)


In 61, the key element is hidden under line 5. That means the driver is hidden (not stolen).
Line 5 is snake, fire element, under aspect Parents.

Among other meanings, aspect parents means:
something that is "set-up" or stablished; parents, grandparents, teachers, older people, a wall, a book, papers, documents; as a place, a library

Because the key element is Rat (the same than the month) that means the key element would come out of hide. So, you could find it.

But I need to know the day when you got the answer, to be sure there is not void element, wich could change the interpretation (if key element is void, it won't come out of hide... at least not in short time)

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Hi, Jesed.
The questions were all asked today, immediately before I posted them.
 
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60 is a compartment, 61 is hollow, with 61.6 my guess is, it’s in the top drawer or on the top shelf.
 

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The item is still in grandma's computer room, probably quite high up on something, maybe near books if she has any in that room, on the north side of the room. It should be quite easy to find, certainly in the next 3-5 days, if not sooner. Hex 48 does suggest that someone was using it before it was misplaced.
 

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Thank you so much to everyone who helped. Willowfox, the north side of the room was accurate in an interesting way.

The large desk/bookcase made of heavy wood sits against the north side of the computer room. On the very top of the desk sit dozens of zip disks. All of the answers (top line, wood trigram, north side of room) were pointing upwards to the disks. But, there was no external drive sitting up there, so I had to find another way to solve the problem.

I talked to Grandma, and asked her if she could remember putting it away somewhere else. Grandma said no, she was positive she was backing up her Genealogy research just a couple of weeks ago, because she couldn't get her software that had saved all of the data running from her C drive to work. I reminded her she'd asked my brother to help her figure out was wrong with the software, and asked if he'd come by in the past few weeks. She said no, but he did visit for Christmas, so we called him to ask him if he knew where the external zip drive was.

My brother reminded Grandma she'd been backing up all of the zip drive data with her A drive, not the large, bulky external drive. He reminded her she hadn't been using that external drive for a while now. Grandma doesn't know where it is. It's gone.

So, in fact, the drive she was looking for was the A drive. Just the information (61) inside the computer (60), which is along the same lines conceptually as the image Bruce provided. Also, the drive was "hidden" in the "established library", it was just the A drive in the computer, which Grandma had forgotten she'd been using (textual analysis of 61.6 )

Hmm. Technical clarification. Not the floppy drive, another drive above the floppy drive. It might actually be D instead of A.
 
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Dear autumn

jesed said:
In 61, the key element is hidden under line 5. That means the driver is hidden (not stolen).
Line 5 is snake, fire element, under aspect Parents.

Among other meanings, aspect parents means:
something that is "set-up" or stablished; parents, grandparents, teachers, older people, a wall, a book, papers, documents; as a place, a library

autumn said:
the drive was "hidden" in the "established library",

Lovely outcome... I had learn quite a bit about it.

In mathematical method (wich is the one I used) it is said that the answer is about what you are really concerned about, no matter how you phrase it. So, even if you phrase the question about an external zip dirve, the answer was about the real concern: the information saved by your Garndmother. Great. Thanks a lot.
 
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Cool. I think Rosada got it right with 61.6: lots of talk and fuss but missing the mark; talk going outward rather than looking inward. Looking back on it now, it’s interesting with everything pointing inside: 61, 48, 20. Yi must have had a good chuckle!
 

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Thanks, Bruce and Thanks for giving us the complete feedback, autumn!

Sounds like 48. The Well was the I Ching's symbol for the computer. Interesting, gives me a new understanding of Wells and also of computers.

Also interesting line 20.6. Wilhelm says, "Contemplation of his life. The superior man is without blame." Sure enough when she thought back about her life, she discovered she hadn't been using it at all and therefore hadn't lost it. So the IC gave us literal right on guidance! Oh, and 8. Holding together - I was seeing this as indicating connecting with the equipment, but it also makes sence when you think of her connecting with your brother helping jog her memory.

38.1 is the first line after 37. The Family, but it hasn't yet fully entered 38. So it seems to discribe the question, "Is it somewhere else?" as meaning has it gone out, beyond the Family, ie. Grandma's room? As it changes to 64 which can mean a whole universe of possibilities, this seemed to say, "If it's not in the family room it could be anywhere." But also the line says it will come back without having to run after it, and it did!

Very satisfying. Thanks!
 
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Again, thanks for helping. This was my thought process through the whole thing.

Another human being would communicate the actual answer to my question, "where is it?" as, "It's not the external drive you are looking for, you are mistaken; the information is not in the auxillary black box that was an appendage to the hard drive case, the information is hidden right next to the floppy drive in an external drive that appears to be part of the computer case."

Or, through a literal reading of the text: 61.6 (60). Information (61) misconstrued- out of balance- not where it is supposed to be- (line 6) outside of its structure (60). Or, using the images of 61 and 60: up close is 61- focus on the information - in the background is 60- don't look for the structure. Or, as a literal, concrete picture- look upward, above the floppy drive, on top of the desk. When I asked, "Is it in this room," it was a very similar question to "where is it", and I got a similar answer. Line 6 of the Tower-being seen, without blame (or cause for change- nothing has happened). I took 20.6 as "you can see it if you look upwards". So, I did, and I saw what I needed to see- the information 61 (disks) without the form of the external drive.

However, I did not know looking at those disks was significant. Looking at the disks didn't jog my memory-but it's what could have jogged my Grandma's memory. After all, I was looking for something for her. And interestingly, what I felt most intuitively is that I needed to look at those disks to figure out where the drive was.

What's interests me is the difference between how the answer was communicated here and how it would be expected to have been answered by, say, a GPS locator- or the five senses. These answers are different. They don't say, x coordinate 14, y coordinate 97, they operate out of a whole, unified sense of meaning. The real meaning of the question was, "where is this thing my Grandma is looking for", and to answer that question in a conscious way, you would reference what she is really focusing on- which was the zip disks themselves, and that's where I was pointed.
 

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So, the Zip drive is gone, right?? Nice case of the Yi answering something it wasn't directly asked for though... Like saying "hey, if you are looking for the information, it is there; the drive is gone..." :D

L

PS: BTW, was it a USB or FireWire version of the drive or the older version as I was saying and therefore useless to anybody?
 

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I don't know- since it wasn't mine- but she did mention it had a USB port. Most likey you are right- it was old.
 

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