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Get a hold of the Jan. 29 New Yorker and read Steve Martin's "Seventy-two Virgins":

Virgin No. 1: YUCK.
Virgin No. 2: ICK.
Virgin No. 3: EW.
Virgin No. 4: Ow.
Virgin No. 5: Do you like cats? I have fourteen!
Virgin No. 6: I'm Becky. I'll be legal in two years.
Virgin No. 7: Here, I'll just pull down your zipper. Oh, sorry!
Virgin No. 8: Can we cuddle first?
Virgin No. 9: It was a garlic and onion pizza, why?
Virgin No.10:..so I see Heath, and he goes, "Like, what are you doing?," and I go, "I'm hanging out," so he goes, "Like, what?"...
Virgin No. 11: First you're going to have to show me an up-to-date health certificate.
Virgin No. 12: Hurry! My parents are due home!
Virgin No.13: Do you want the regular or the special?
Virgin No.14.:I'm eighty-four. So what?
Virgin No. 15: YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!
Virgin No. 16: Even I know that's tiny.
Virgin No. 17: "Do it"? Meaning what?
Virgin No. 18: I'm saving myself for Jesus.
Virgin No. 19: Somewhere on my body I have hidden a buffalo nickle.
Virgin No. 20: Don't touch my hair!
...and so forth...
Virgin 72: It WAS paradise, until you showed up.
 

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Interesting story Rosada, sounds like you really have helped that woman immensely. Like you've done what 100 counsellors couldn't do, freed her up, given her a bit of time space and energy back. Good on ya !

Actually your story fits in with the idea of 'overseeing', you kind of took a certain amount of control over what you thought needed to be done. Yes I think I can see that as a 19 experience. Problem is with the word 'teaching' I tend to think of it as formal instruction - 19 maybe is more like active participation with someone, still an element of patronage (in a good way) and kindness, I'm sure you didn't especially want to clean her house.

Bruce 9,6 is one of my favourites, it stays or else :hissy: Besides which I think 9 is often far less dull than it looks.
 
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"The goodhearted sage returns to society to help. A form of deference but overshadowed by his presence."

Line position 6 is 'controlled' by 23 and so covers the generic focus on removing the chaff from the wheat, bringing out the 'true' faith etc. A sage can represent such and the coming 'down' to help can be useful however the mingling of a sage with the 'common people' can be distracting and elicit behavioural changes that in the long term BLOCK what society is trying to achieve.

We see here the influence of this changing line where we move across the binary pair of 19,41 (only line difference is top line - so 19 is more unconditional overall, 41 more conditional).

Moving into the realm of 41 means movement in the 'decrease' where we have two forms of expression - the successful result of distillation, purification, and the total failure of such.

with/from approaching comes concentrating (distilling, decrease)

Thus the benefits of the sage mixing with the people can seed 'distillation' of mind into 'pure' form as it can confuse mind, distract it away from what should be done and so a literal decrease takes place.

The overall suggestion is thus to maintain position, to defer but to a point, to know the dangers of defering to the 'common people' where no matter how much one would like to help and 'be like them' there are issues with such; be wary.

If we focus on the infrastructure of the hexagrams dynamics we have:

19->41

110000 -> 110001

27-ness:

010001 -> 010000

The pair of 04,07 cover a generic state of socialisation (local 'purification', to become 'like us') through containment and so the infrastructure of 19->41 is reflected in:

With/From masking (04) comes uniformity (07). To put on the mask leads to uniformity and approach/deference reflects this focus on being 'same'.

Chris.
 
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trojan said:
Bruce 9,6 is one of my favourites, it stays or else :hissy: Besides which I think 9 is often far less dull than it looks.

I'll trade ya, one slightly used 9.6 for your 19.
 

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I have drawn 19 unchanging when inquiring about things like maybe taking a new course in a school and other vague but interesting ideas. nothing came of those ideas because I didnt act on them (duh) but consequently I tend to see 19 in general as a dreamy state, sand castles without foundation, nice to muse on while they last but of no substance unless you pour some concrete.
19.6, though, is a line of substance. To me, it signifies that one has something valuable to offer and that it comes so naturally, one probably can provide this just by being present. I think we all have those areas/situations where just by "showing up" we are the right person at the right time. Like Rosada's situation above.
 

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bruce_g said:
I'll trade ya, one slightly used 9.6 for your 19.

DEAL I can relax while you do the work :mischief:
 

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Actually one reason I may not be 'getting' 19 is on the one hand there this idea of approach/teaching/patronage and then on the other hand the idea that you have to work hard to get anything to happen out of 19 otherwise its just dream stuff as Listener described.

How these two tie in together I don't see.
 

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rosada said:
Virgin No. 1: YUCK.
Virgin No. 2: ICK.
Virgin No. 3: EW.
Virgin No. 4: Ow.
Virgin No. 5: Do you like cats? I have fourteen!
...

Virgins? Nah, they are more trouble than my attention span can take on a good day. :D

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Thanks for the encouragement, folks. As Chris' interpretations suggest, I was feeling my presence might have been more confusing than helpful. However, yesterday things came to a head and my friend called the police, who - fortunately actually - got confused themselves and did not come. But the mere threat of those great sage's showing up on the doorstep got the hubby to at least face reality and admit there's a problem.
 

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Hi could any of you esteemed senior members :) shed light on the 19 hexagram leading to 46? i.e. 19 changing at lines 1 and 3

I just had an audition for a short film and I asked the I Ching whether the director was impressed with me and if I would get the part. And I got 19.1.3 i.e. leading to 46.

19. Judgement

"Approach has supreme success.
Perseverance furthers.
When the eighth month comes,
There will be misfortune."

(am confused about the eight month and misfortune, when the rest of the judgement is positive i.e.

"Nine at the beginning means:
Joint approach.
Perseverance brings good fortune."

"Six in the third place means:
Comfortable approach.
Nothing that would not further.
If one is induced to grieve over it,
One becomes free of blame."

(don't understand the last 2 lines)

Then 46...


Judgement
"Pushing upward has supreme success.
One must see the great man.
Fear not.
Departure toward the south
Brings good fortune."

So that seems really positive.

The only further info I can give is that I briefly met this guy when I helped out on one of his short films 2 years ago. He also knows of me from around the acting and filmmaking traps and seemed very excited that I had applied to audition and that he was going to meet me again (i.e. I felt he respected me in that sense). So that was always an encouraging sign. Because I also do some writing and directing I'm just not sure if he wanted to make the connection (as people do in this industry) and possibly as a way to work together down the track, or whether he really wanted me for this part. Furthermore he reckons he was overwhelmed with applications to audition but only chose a very short list, of which I was obviously one. So again, to begin with, that was a great sign.

Any help interpreting this would be much appreciated :)

thanks
sofia :)
 
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she reposted this in shared readings, the situation has already moved on..she knows about the part..i mean continue working on it if you like I'm just saying...
 
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