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canislulu

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1. How would a vote for Hilary Clinton be in the interest of the greatest good? H 31.3.5 > 16

2. How would a vote for Bernie Sanders be in the interest of the greatest good? H 43.4.5.6 > 26

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How would a vote for Hilary Clinton be in the interest of the greatest good?

Assuming that American politics as it stands actually allows anyone remotely worthwhile to enter the race which it hasn't for the past 60 years... off we go...

H 31.3.5 > 16

31: Attraction

Line 3: Base instincts and animal drives, totally unconscious momentum; insatiable appetite for power offering a lack of stability. If these impulses are translated into group consciousness that can be extremely dangerous helmsman ship.

Wikiwing:

'Influence in your thighs,
Holding to your following
Going on, shame.'


Line 5: Will power on the rise with the potential to affect many people... Yet, this line - despite the lack of the heart energy and her inflexibility - it is central and correct. I like LiSe's rendering of this line which underscores the idea of choice entering in as to how this position might manifest either positively or negatively:. And we have a repeat of line 3's qualities:

9 at 5: Affect one's back. Without regret.
Influences which can be felt in the back or neck are the strongest ones and the most difficult to trace. They are intense and mysterious, they go back to primitive feelings of fear, agressivity, power, trust or mistrust. If that influence is positive or negative decides most of all how a relation will be.

The background hex is an appropriate 62... Hillary has always been characterised by overreaching herself and not gauging the public or political climate of which she has long been a part. In other words: Hubris.

Background hexagram is 16: enthusiasm mixed with self-deception. She really wants the throne. And quite honestly, I think it'll be handed to her on a plate.

Sanders is a decent enough guy and represents the "people's choice" category but he's not Establishment and he's liable to croak half way through office so he was never a contender. A protest vote perhaps?

How would a vote for Bernie Sanders be in the interest of the greatest good?

H 43.4.5.6 > 26

43: Breakthrough / Determination

Line 4: Bernie is a bit clueless as to how deep politics works. His words will not be heard. He's in over his head. As 43 mentions in Wilhelm's Judgement, there is always a tendency to be overwhelmed by the forces you set in motion.This may merge with his refusal to listen to advice as to how to proceed. My way or the highway is Bernie's credo.

Line 5: He'll doggedly keep on keeping on, despite his weak position.

Line 6: "A failure to persist to the end." (Wihelm) Which means he drops out of the "race." He becomes the ghost candidate he always was.

The background hexagram is 26 Great restraint. In other words Bernie Sanders potential for power was always under control by those more powerful. His intentions for the public good were true but misguided.
 
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Thanks you, Topal, for your reflections on the readings I cast.

I know I did not ask about who would "win" and so I am not sure how the following is related to the questions I asked... but here is a little info about the election "results":

According to the latest CBS News exit polling results from Michigan:
Sanders has stayed competitive with Clinton in Michigan by winning the under-30 vote overwhelmingly (82 percent to 17 percent); and he won among those 30 to 44 (56 percent to 43 percent); Clinton won the over-45 vote by 58 percent to 39 percent.
 

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Thanks you, Topal, for your reflections on the readings I cast.

I know I did not ask about who would "win" and so I am not sure how the following is related to the questions I asked... but here is a little info about the election "results":

Well, I don't think you can separate the two. Ascertaining the potential of the "greatest good" ultimately boils down to who "wins" based on "how you vote," which is how you framed the question.

Whether or not the end result is actually directly related to the mechanism of voting is another matter...
 

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I wish I had paid more attention when I was being taught about the electoral college in high school. In Michigan Bernie won 63 delegates and Hilary won 53. (Bernie got 50.1 % of the vote and HIlary got 48 % and "other" got 1.9 %.) In the Republican Michigan primary Trump got 37.something % of the vote.

Not sure why I am sharing this here. Perhaps I'll start an open space thread.
 

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