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Hi I recently gave away my inherited millions of dollars to a good person. Now I no longer have a nest egg.

& live on a small salary.

Was offered a job, yesterday, with very good benefits and would double my paupers salary. I would like to take it, but they spend a good deal of $$ training, and I would hate to leave them high and dry if I ever hear the call of the wild and have to leave the position. Or earth.

I asked about the job and got 48 lines 4 and 6 changing to 44.

Now i figure many of you are experts on 44, having gone through it on Rosada's memorizing threads, and since this reading was not given to me as a lovers secret, I am seeking the council of the esteemed posters on this board.

What do you think about taking this job? Is 44 telling me not to marry it, is this a temptation I should avoid.

I am, after all, a committment phobe happy bachelor.
 

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Hi I recently gave away my inherited millions of dollars to a good person. Now I no longer have a nest egg.
You should have taken my valet offer. I would have smacked some sense into you, at least in the name of job security... :rofl:
 

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I asked about the job and got 48 lines 4 and 6 changing to 44.

Line 48.4 is talking about the well being relined and so to you, it indicates a need to fix your life and the solution seems to be that by taking the job you will achieve that objective. But it goes further, saying that for a while the well cannot be used but by taking the job I assume that you will initially go through a training period where you will not actually be working but by learning then your future success is assured.

Line 48.6 This shows that once you have completed your initial step then you will become a full time successful employee, a valuable asset to the company.

Hex 44 is about future temptations that may well happen, but if you are aware that all that glitters is not gold then you will survive to work another day.
 

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You should have taken my valet offer. I would have smacked some sense into you, at least in the name of job security... :rofl:
ahhh good sense, thou arrivest yet again already gone....:eek:uch:
 

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Line 48.4 is talking about the well being relined and so to you, it indicates a need to fix your life and the solution seems to be that by taking the job you will achieve that objective. But it goes further, saying that for a while the well cannot be used but by taking the job I assume that you will initially go through a training period where you will not actually be working but by learning then your future success is assured.

Line 48.6 This shows that once you have completed your initial step then you will become a full time successful employee, a valuable asset to the company.

Hex 44 is about future temptations that may well happen, but if you are aware that all that glitters is not gold then you will survive to work another day.
Hi WF Happy you are back :). Hm, I saw the well being lined as my exhausted bank account. Never thought of it as the training period. hmm. I wondered if the repair could refer to a situation where I would even give away the millions, , but I can't figure that out as it is too complicated and ridiculous to describe. And it wasn't the realm of my question as I had previously inquired of the oracle regarding that.

I wondered if 44 refers to the job position being the powerful stout lady.
 

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Hi I recently gave away my inherited millions of dollars to a good person. Now I no longer have a nest egg.
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Did you have to give away ALL of it??

(I hope it wasn't a guru that's all....:p)

The Topal Benevolent Fund (TBF) is taking offers.
 

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Did you have to give away ALL of it??

(I hope it wasn't a guru that's all....:p)

The Topal Benevolent Fund (TBF) is taking offers.
:rofl:



BTW I'm spending way too much time trying to figure out what on earth peoples avatars are - its distracting me. Hollis yours could either be something like an elephant fetus or a cat washing itself ? Cyclotron's is another mystery. Topal it looks to me like your Tigger is holding a handbag ?
 

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:rofl: dear Topal, I have saved some just for you. You will receive it when you reach 21 years of age:D Dear Trojan I am confused by the avatars too mine is an elepahnt foetus, everything else i tried was too big of a file, so this is temp.:p
 

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:rofl: dear Topal, I have saved some just for you. You will receive it when you reach 21 years of age:D Dear Trojan I am confused by the avatars too mine is an elepahnt foetus, everything else i tried was too big of a file, so this is temp.:p
I can be 21 years old. In fact, I'll regress to any age provided the price is right! :D

And yes...That avatar is truly creepy Hollis....:eek:

Topal
 

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Topal it looks to me like your Tigger is holding a handbag ?
Trojan,

That's neither "Tigger" or a "hand-bag"....

Allow me to initiate you into the wonderful world of Calvin & Hobbes (and pretty much the only guy never to sell out to the syndicates!)

Topal
 

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Trojan,

That's neither "Tigger" or a "hand-bag"....

Allow me to initiate you into the wonderful world of Calvin & Hobbes (and pretty much the only guy never to sell out to the syndicates!)

Topal
Ooh never heard of that before, thanks. I'll try to erase tigger and the handbag from my mind.
 

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Hi Hollis,
I see 44 in this situation as saying you wont know how you are going to feel about this job until you get into it. You wont know what your artistic talents are until you pick up the brush. 48 seems so positive for the training being good however, that I vote you pursue it.
 
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mine is an elepahnt foetus
That's a pretty big 44 image, as well as 16.

Hollis, my gut asks: Are you on some kind of self destruct mission? Which could be in line with 44. And 48 is all about living well (no pun intended).Wellness - ok, that was a deliberate pun.

So I sorta go with what Willowfox has said, but as applied to your mind even more than with this job offer, though they aren't separate.

It seems power has been coming to you in various forms, and you keep rejecting it. This makes me ask: Are you handling life with surgical gloves? If you're going to rebuild the lining of your well, you have to be willing to take some risks, loosen up, and get a little dirty.
 

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Reviewing your question Hollis, "I asked about the job."
I'm thinking you didn't really ask anything specific, so maybe 48.2.6>44 should be interpreted as just a comment. It seems to be restating what you already know: 48.2.6 The training will develop your natural talents and put you in a position to apply them > 44. this will lead to something but just what is undefined.

Incidentally, I see 44 as being the collective unconscious. 48.2.6 > 44 could be saying that by accepting this position you are letting the world tap into your Neverland and Peter Pan like you are uneasy that it may force you to have to grow up? But consider you may find this job is actually helping you to actualize your potential! The bucket is going to draw forth wonderful things when you can dip it deep into your well!

Perhaps you should ask a second question along the lines of, "What am I committing to in accepting this position?" I think 44 actually indicates the people you would be working for would be pretty open to whatever terms you want to suggest.
 
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That's a pretty big 44 image, as well as 16.

Hollis, my gut asks: Are you on some kind of self destruct mission? Which could be in line with 44. And 48 is all about living well (no pun intended).Wellness - ok, that was a deliberate pun.
That's really interesting Meng. Gonna think that over.

So I sorta go with what Willowfox has said, but as applied to your mind even more than with this job offer, though they aren't separate.

It seems power has been coming to you in various forms, and you keep rejecting it.
But I dont want power, I want freedom.


This makes me ask: Are you handling life with surgical gloves? If you're going to rebuild the lining of your well, you have to be willing to take some risks, loosen up, and get a little dirty.

I get your point. I don't know about surgical gloves, I don't think so, I've been really hurt, like anyone living, -- when I see 44, i can only refer to my past experiences of it. And those experiences tell me to watch out.

I really appreciate your comments.
 

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Reviewing your question Hollis, "I asked about the job."
I'm thinking you didn't really ask anything specific, so maybe 48.2.6>44 should be interpreted as just a comment. It seems to be restating what you already know: 48.2.6 The training will develop your natural talents and put you in a position to apply them > 44. this will lead to something but just what is undefined.
Thanks Rosada, yes it does seem undefined.

Incidentally, I see 44 as being the collective unconscious. 48.2.6 > 44 could be saying that by accepting this position you are letting the world tap into your Neverland and Peter Pan like you are uneasy that it may force you to have to grow up? But consider you may find this job is actually helping you to actualize your potential! The bucket is going to draw forth wonderful things when you can dip it deep into your well!
That is very insightful,

Perhaps you should ask a second question along the lines of, "What am I committing to in accepting this position?" I think 44 actually indicates the people you would be working for would be pretty open to whatever terms you want to suggest.
Hi Roasada. I guess I don't want to ask anymore questions. After a while, you just get tired of hearing yourself wonder, and I'll just get in there and start the training. I like your idea that 44 represents that they will be open to me, it actually may be true, time will tell.:hug:
 

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ok Rosada, I did it. "What do i need to know about this job"

36 line 5.

looks like i'd be under a bushel.

over and out, i'll check out the training today anyway. thanks muchos.
 

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That's a pretty big 44 image, as well as 16.

Hollis, my gut asks: Are you on some kind of self destruct mission? Which could be in line with 44. And 48 is all about living well (no pun intended).Wellness - ok, that was a deliberate pun.
Hi Bruce. I thought a bout your question, which I have wondered myself for a quite while now. I never had the answer to it, and you asking helped me re-evaluate. I think, pretty much, I was going along in life pretty normal, normal but different, like anyone, and then, around 37 years of age, some things happened which thrust me into such complexity and a different set of rules than I had ever heard of, from books or other people .... Since then the answers are never easy, only the YJ can sort of guide me, (and sometimes only the most heartfelt of experience from a trusted person), and even then, only sort of, as there is quite a learning curve to using the YI for guidance.

So I don't know the answer to your question, but I do know I have not lived with surgical gloves.

Anyway, I am not gonna take the job, after going to the training, I see why the 36 line 5. That was real advice, not the YJ playing me.

and this morning, I thought about the company, and all they would invest in training me, so, asked for them, for them, hiring me, and the YJ said 33 line 6. So no, for them, and their good time and money, it is better to say a happy unequivocal goodbye. They are decent people, and it just wouldn't work out long term. And I know the YJ is not playing me with this one. Line 5 of 36 says to profit in the divination.

:bows:
 
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Hi Hollis

I'm glad you're finding the peace and direction you've been searching for. I would agree that your last reading points away from the offer.

I'm still wondering a little if the surgical gloves comment was understood as I intended it. Applying it to myself, there have been times in my life when I was so determined to live a pure and above reproach kind of way (heaven spirit) that I left part of my "earth soul" behind in the process, causing me a disconnect with living well here and now. Perhaps it doesn't apply here, but I still sorta think, just based on observing your posts here over some time, that 44 may be encouraging your heavenly senses (wind under heaven) to come down to earth and enjoy the material world a bit more. That's just the read I'm getting.

Anyway, I wish you the best in everything.

Bruce
 

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Thanks for giving us the update, Hollis. I wonder if you would mind writing out a bit more detail how 36.5 > 63 manifested?

36.5
Darkening of the light as with Prince Chi.
Perseverance furthers.

Did you just realize the job was so not you that you'd have to completely conceal your true self while doing it?

64.
AFTER COMPLETION. Success in small matters.
Perseverance furthers.
At the beginning good fortune,
At the end disorder.

Any comment on how this applied?

I'm curious because I've sort of hit the wall with my own studies of the I Ching. I no longer seem to be able to get clear cut guidance. It used to be I'd read a line and it would resonate a clear yes or no, do or don't do. Now I know too much and it's only with hindsight that I see the guidance. Like with line 36.5. You can read it now as saying you'd have to be nuts to take this job, but what about the "perseverance furthers"? Doesn't that indicate one should take the job, or at least go to the training? Do you think it was particularly beneficial that you went to the training? I mean, 36.5>63 certainly sounds like the I Ching was encouraging you to at least check it out -"success in small matters" - but why? Why weren't you advised to just pass on the whole thing from the beginning? Perhaps 48.2.6>44 should have been taken as saying "Don't bother," right from the beginning but since you put more energy into it 36.5>63 showed how the story could play itself out a little bit longer? Hmm...
 
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Hollis,

Why is the thread called 'millions of $' if the question is really about a job?

I don't think that the millions of dollars story is even so relevant to the question, unless it is to you for some reason.
 

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Rosada, I think she was being told to pass from the beginning. 44 seemed to me to indicate a demanding kind of commitment, with the 48.6 possibly indicating that, with the lid off the well, it was gonna be an enormous amount expected.

all this discussion about 44 that has gone on and varying opinions seems to skew the meaning of the hex...even if the outcome of 44 is going to be a beneficial one, it is still always a force to be reckoned with, something large and overbearing, i never see it as flexible and accomodating, except maybe in appearance!
 

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a lot i want to respond to, so , one point at a time....
 

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Hi Hollis

I'm glad you're finding the peace and direction you've been searching for. I would agree that your last reading points away from the offer.
Thanks. It was hard to tell them no. But better now than later.

I'm still wondering a little if the surgical gloves comment was understood as I intended it. Applying it to myself, there have been times in my life when I was so determined to live a pure and above reproach kind of way (heaven spirit) that I left part of my "earth soul" behind in the process, causing me a disconnect with living well here and now. Perhaps it doesn't apply here, but I still sorta think, just based on observing your posts here over some time, that 44 may be encouraging your heavenly senses (wind under heaven) to come down to earth and enjoy the material world a bit more. That's just the read I'm getting.

Anyway, I wish you the best in everything.
Thanks. I do think there is some kind of weird fracture that you are picking up on, from the readings in my posts here over time. With the presence of 44, and what 44 has been for me in the past, this wasn't the time to explore by sticking my hand in the cookie jar. Something needs integrating, no doubt. :bows: And I'll be paying attention.

:bows:
 

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Thanks for giving us the update, Hollis. I wonder if you would mind writing out a bit more detail how 36.5 > 63 manifested?

ok:)

36.5
Darkening of the light as with Prince Chi.
Perseverance furthers.

Did you just realize the job was so not you that you'd have to completely conceal your true self while doing it?

Any comment on how this applied?
Hi Rosada! well, let me back up a bit and say I was hesitant to throw one more time about the job. Chasing my own tail , using the YJ :brickwall:.

(so when I got the reading, 36, line 5, I wasnt sure if I'd just done myself in or not.)


So, to the job training. Well, I went to the trial evening. The manager told me he wanted my feedback after that evening training to see if I wanted the job.

This job is in a field that my family is kind of known for. We are known in the region for this enterprise. I'm sure this is part of the reason I was hired.

I wouldn't have to conceal my true self, but the part of me that is me, and not my family, would suffocate. If I could have done it for a year or so, ok, but the company put a lot of money and time into training someone. The guy training me had been with them for 25 years.



I'm curious because I've sort of hit the wall with my own studies of the I Ching. I no longer seem to be able to get clear cut guidance. It used to be I'd read a line and it would resonate a clear yes or no, do or don't do. Now I know too much and it's only with hindsight that I see the guidance.
i can relate.

Like with line 36.5. You can read it now as saying you'd have to be nuts to take this job, but what about the "perseverance furthers"?
if it was past tense, and i was already in the situation, say, a job, or relationship, with this line, i would pay attention to 'perseverance furthers'. seeing as i had not made the choice yet, i took a different reading of that line: 'profit in the divination'. meaning: head's up. take the oracle seriously. this is a very distressed situation, depicted in the line. if i was a mom with hungry kids to feed, and this was the only job offer in sight, i would take the job.

Doesn't that indicate one should take the job, or at least go to the training?

Do you think it was particularly beneficial that you went to the training?

I mean, 36.5>63 certainly sounds like the I Ching was encouraging you to at least check it out -"success in small matters" - but why?

Why weren't you advised to just pass on the whole thing from the beginning?

Perhaps 48.2.6>44 should have been taken as saying "Don't bother," right from the beginning but since you put more energy into it 36.5>63 showed how the story could play itself out a little bit longer? Hmm...
it was helpful i went to the first evening, then i came to understand the line 5. i could see that i would be very very unhappy in the job. exhausted, and dirty, exposed to harsh elements, and working with people who knew my family and would be very curious about them. gossip, etc would be a peril.

why wasnt i advised to pass on the whole thing?

so many reasons are possible. i don't know. i wonder that i have over used the YJ in the past, and am slightly off the curve with it. if i respect the oracle, and don't go chasing my tail or my fictions, i and the oracle are more in sync again.:hug:

why wasn't i advised to pass on the whole thing? i have another friend who also notices that she isn't getting the clear cut readings she used to.... do you think it's the times we live in?

or maybe i get answers to the nano second, and not beyond. i really dont know.

it may just be another learning curve into the unknown.
 

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crystalline, the title of the thread had some meaning to me..... the whole reason i went looking for the job, was because i gave up some security.
 

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Rosada, I think she was being told to pass from the beginning. 44 seemed to me to indicate a demanding kind of commitment, with the 48.6 possibly indicating that, with the lid off the well, it was gonna be an enormous amount expected.

all this discussion about 44 that has gone on and varying opinions seems to skew the meaning of the hex...even if the outcome of 44 is going to be a beneficial one, it is still always a force to be reckoned with, something large and overbearing, i never see it as flexible and accomodating, except maybe in appearance!
hi there bamboo. yes, about the 44.

& that's an interesting take on 48 6. lise translates it as "The well is gathering. Do not cover it. Be true. Great auspiciousness."
makes me think something better is coming.

:bows:
 

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Thanks for the clarification, Hollis. The fact that your family is known and you would have to keep your true self hidden is so perfectly delineated by 36.5. Amazing.
 

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hi there bamboo. yes, about the 44.

& that's an interesting take on 48 6. lise translates it as "The well is gathering. Do not cover it. Be true. Great auspiciousness."
makes me think something better is coming.

:bows:
Interesting. 48.6 is translated as an auspicious line in every translation I have, but in the Sorrell's book, they talk about it in a less than auspicious way. Their interpretation always sticks with me ....And I remember the reading of a student who was propositioned by an older, rich married man and drew 48.6. On the one hand, abundant resources (of a sort) but on the other hand, did she really want to leave the cover off of her well? her reply was no;)

but yes, it could also mean something better is coming. it could be that this is just a sampling of your many opportunities to line your well
 
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Interesting. 48.6 is translated as an auspicious line in every translation I have, but in the Sorrell's book, they talk about it in a less than auspicious way. Their interpretation always sticks with me ....And I remember the reading of a student who was propositioned by an older, rich married man and drew 48.6. On the one hand, abundant resources (of a sort) but on the other hand, did she really want to leave the cover off of her well? her reply was no.
yeah, i've always been perplexed by the sorrell's 48 6. it sticks with me too. (and thinking about it, and it kind of fits here....do i really want to be an open resource considering the history of my family.) also their 55 line 1 is unique ....maybe something better is coming. today a scout has approached me and is considering to use our premisis for a movie. now that may be millions of dollars. hehehee!
 

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