mom's health 64.5>6

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My mom has been going down hill for years. She has been taking a lot of pain meds (methadone specifically - heavy duty stuff) and I can see her health slipping away before my eyes. She is the kindest woman who would do anything for anyone and she gave me the most wonderful warm childhood, but since 2001 she has been on this downward spiral with pills in a very addictive manner (with poor Dr.'s whom do not really care about her health). she has hardened emotionally and she is just a totally different person than I am used to. She has become one of those hoarder's collecting all sorts of crap and I feel like it is just like her mind is. Very cluttered. Her teeth are all rotting out, which causes her a lot of pain as well as other things. For years I have always been trying to help her. I look up various ways to heal various things and give her the message. I am a purest at heart so I don't go the medication way, I go more the healthy food, healthy mind, stretching etc way and she never bites.

Anyways, yesterday she was over and I asked her if I could give her a reading and the question she picked was "How can I make my body feel better"? and she got 53 unchanging. We went out to eat right after the reading... (her stomach has been bugging her and she said she isn't digesting properly).. She couldn't choose what to get from the menu so we were talking about it... she ended up getting a steak like she always does and I mentioned to her how red meat is one of the hardest things to digest. She got it anyways.

It is apparent that she does not want my help. But it is the absolute hardest thing in my life to watch her and not do anything.

So I asked today (it is her birthday), How can I help my mom's health?
A: 64.5>6

I get 64 when I do not see eye to eye with someone. When our views are different. That makes so much sense to me.
Is 64.5 saying that my lifestyle will rub off on her?? Or that she is doomed and will not be affected but I will carry on a renewed generation??
When I read about 6 it makes me think of how we often butt heads and leave mad at each other because of our stubburn personalities. It also makes me think of how for the past .. say 4 years.. I have tried a different approach to talking with her where I have kept a LOT to myself, and it hasn't neccessarily helped her health, but it has helped our relationship.

I swear... mom's and their daughters... what a mess and an enigma.....

I would love some help with this one :bows: :bows: :bows:

 

[pocossin]

How can I help my mom's health?
64.5 > 6

How can the young fox cross the ice of winter? In 64.5 Bradford has 'the noble young one moves toward the light of example'. The elderly value independence but can sometimes be influenced by example. Things that cannot be done directly can often be accomplished indirectly. Wikipedia says that stomach pains are one of the adverse effects of methadone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methadone

 

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Things that cannot be done directly can often be accomplished indirectly. Wikipedia says that stomach pains are one of the adverse effects of methadone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methadone

Thanks pocossin :bows: :bows: :bows: It's hard for me to deliver a message to her... I cannot figure out how to indirectly shed light on this information ... this is so hard for me....

Dispite this, Bradford's 64.5 is a positive one for me. Thanks

 

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there are so many side effects... its scary.

 

[pocossin]

A fox is a creature of subtlety. Couldn't you outfox your mother for her own benefit? Having had a turn at eldercare, I have had experiences with teeth, diet, medications, exercise, hoarding, dementia, personal hygiene, . . . the whole list, but especially the car keys, in which I was successful. She'd say, "I want the car keys," and I'd say, "Where did you leave your car keys?" And I guarantee you we never found the car keys She stopped waking, even in the house, although she was able to walk unassisted. She loved Snickers, so I'd put a Snicker on her rocking chair on the sun porch and mention in passing that I had seen one out there. Such is life.

 

[Trojina]

A fox is a creature of subtlety. Couldn't you outfox your mother for her own benefit? Having had a turn at eldercare, I have had experiences with teeth, diet, medications, exercise, hoarding, dementia, personal hygiene, . . . the whole list, but especially the car keys, in which I was successful. She'd say, "I want the car keys," and I'd say, "Where did you leave your car keys?" And I guarantee you we never found the car keys She stopped waking, even in the house, although she was able to walk unassisted. She loved Snickers, so I'd put a Snicker on her rocking chair on the sun porch and mention in passing that I had seen one out there. Such is life.

who would have thought you could be so sneaky...but very clever. Like your mum theres not alot I wouldn't do for a Snickers bar

 

[Trojina]

FWIW 64.5 is a line I associate with expert help, good help. For some reason I've often had it when asking about people who I'm 'employing' to help me in some way..ie osteopaths etc etc and usually this line is a good auspice to let this person help me cross, help me make a transition. This line has usuallyshown these peope have the capacity to help and transform So it could be what you need to do for your mum is to find her the right help...or it could be that you actually are the right help in doing what you are doing you will come to find a way forward for her. I think this line could be seen as a vote of confidence in your capacity to help or get the right help here

the fan yao is 6.5 where also a kind of 'expert' as in a mediator is employed

 

[pocossin]

who would have thought you could be so sneaky...but very clever. Like your mum theres not alot I wouldn't do for a Snickers bar

But often I wasn't clever enough. One morning I came into the kitchen and she was holding her jaw. I asked if her jaw was sore, and without saying anything she removed her hand, and I could see that it was swollen. I picked up the phone book and said that I was going to call the dentist for an appointment, and she immediately replied, " No you're not either. I have an appointment in three weeks and I'll go then." I said, "You can go the dentist or sit there and hurt." She said, "I'll sit here and hurt then," and she did for the next three week.

I was so taken aback by her obstinance that I could not think, and I let her sit there and suffer for three weeks. I should have contacted the dentist and had him contrive a reason why he could not meet her in three weeks so she needed come in this week -- a dentist convention or a marriage in the family -- whatever. When dealing with a person with diminished capacity, truth is not always the best policy. So make a game of eldercare if you have to and get the right thing done.

 

[Trojina]

I know what ypu mean. I used to work in a home for older people with dementia. Often they would say they were going to catch the bus....but the grounds were closed, or were going to see their parents ( who had died 40 years before) but no one ever would contradict them...much easier to go along with it especially if they were happy with the idea.

I don't think you should blame yourself with regard to your mothers toothache. She was still excersizing self will/ agency. You were still you, she was still her. You couldn't think of everything and were probably already in some ways exhausted by constantly having to think from her perspective

However I think AQ is quite young...in her 20s ? so I assumed her mothers condition is not entirely due to age since her mother may only be in her 50s or 60s. Sounds possible alot of things she is afflicted with might be arrested...or even reversed with some kind of plan ?


I do think the 64.5 is an encouragement to AQ to go on using her mind to see how best to help her mum

 

[pocossin]

I do think the 64.5 is an encouragement to AQ to go on using her mind to see how best to help her mum

I wholeheartedly agree.

 

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When dealing with a person with diminished capacity, truth is not always the best policy. So make a game of eldercare if you have to and get the right thing done.

THE trickery has begun!!
In order for her to be helped with the information that I have, it must be presented backwardly, OR presented in a manner where she finds it. I mentioned something about wikipedia and how it can be used for looking up vertually anything.. She is starting to get comuter savy lately.. I told her EVERYTHING is on there, even side effects for different medications. I worked it in so that she will probably get online and wiki her meds. It seems like she will.

I am thinking the 64 is the obvious fact that we approach health differently.
6 is the conflict which comes from that, and what manifests if I directly try and help her.
.5 is that I CAN help...

:bows:

 

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However I think AQ is quite young...in her 20s ? so I assumed her mothers condition is not entirely due to age since her mother may only be in her 50s or 60s. Sounds possible alot of things she is afflicted with might be arrested...or even reversed with some kind of plan ?


I do think the 64.5 is an encouragement to AQ to go on using her mind to see how best to help her mum

Trojan, thanks for your help..
Yeah, sure, I'm in my 20's.......... we will go with that......

My mother is about to turn 60. She actually looks older than her mother. Her mother is 79 and gets around much better. My mother has a mentality of someone who should be in a home. She considers herself much older. Just like some people have the mindset that they are younger and they seem must less mature as their peers, my mother's whole persona is based on being old. She likes it. I would say she has an aura of a 75 year old, and a mind of an 85 year old. She cannot get out of bed a lot and when she does, she is always stiff. She forgets most things. It can be frustrating. Like I said, it is very hard to watch. She is honestly my greatest teacher if you know what I mean. I learn so much from her in the ways of what not to do. How not to treat myself, and also patients... And also I remember how loving and nurturing she once way.

Pocossin, thanks for your help too :bows:
Cunning like a fox we must be,
to take the deserved care for the elderly
-a little diddy i just whipped up.

When you mentioned the lady with the snickers bar, everything seemed to make sense for me. It has lit the beginning of the path I am going to take for my mom's health. THANKS.

Take care !!

 

[meerkats64]

i agree with pocassin despite fortunetelling consult medics as for 64 if i remember correctly its a trigram of water & trigram of fire but with moving line its not clear cut yes/no verdict for you i did coin tossing when i had blood loss (either colon bowel cancer or harmless piles) i had k=offspring bodyguard star on self line in feb 2011 when i consulted weeks b4 i got doctors to put camera inside me my outcome my prediction matched news from doctor that i had zero to worry about. 64 means a dicey delicate situation. i will do folder with health example from my own life on i ching & tarot method i must say when divining/fortunetelling water puts out fire & fire turns water into steam if given enough time the imagery! pray to God that things work out to your liking.