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Hope all of you had a Happy Christmas!

Some mornings, I take a few minutes of quiet time to ask "what should i know about today?" - no particular thoughts, rather a quick check on my own headline news.

This morning the Yi replied 28.3.5 to 40. Things are overloaded, the ridgepole breaks, the old tree exhausts itself trying to spout new leaves.

Hmm. Well, I certainly did not overdo it for the holidays, which were quiet, but overall, the past few years have been overloaded with problems and worries that are tough to solve (and can't simply be ignored and let go of) and have indeed been a huge strain. End result, I've lost much of my "omph", with the only goal/aspiration being peace of mind (once these myriad problems get solved, one after the other; it's not instant soup).

Searching through the index I land on this thread http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?14304-28-3-5-to-40 and can certainly empathize with the querent's feeling stuck.

Given my question - just a simple "what should I know about today", I felt the Yi really broadened the scope in its answer. So I asked what is it that is overloaded? It said 62.3 to 16. LiSe suggests not to defend one's cause or ideals too much, that they have to fit in with reality, that their value is not how they sound but how they work. With the backdrop of 16 as enthusiasm (I often associate 16 as lots of positive, perhaps unchanelled, energy, music etc.), that makes even less sense - can't say that fits my context at all!

Disconnect. I've not been propounding, promoting or defending anything. I've been in 36 and 52 mode, trying to tick off one item at a time on the list of things to solve, working quietly on my own.

How does the Yi's answer fit with the question or what is it trying to get me to pay attention to?

:bows: Thanks for your help!
 

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Reading Wilhelm's description gave me an overall direction
Hex 28
Line 3, Wilhelm:
This indicates a type of man who in times of preponderance of the great insists on pushing ahead. He accepts no advice from others, and therefore they in turn are not willing to lend him support. Because of this the burden grows, until the structure of things bends or breaks.

Line 5, Wilhelm:
An older woman may marry once more, but no renewal takes place. Everything remains barren.

And 62.3: There are dangers lurking for which they are unprepared. Yet such danger is not unavoidable; one can escape it if he understands that the time demands that he pay especial attention to small and insignificant thing.

There is something that you are ignoring, treating it as insignificant and worthless.

Then consulting with Nigel Richmond's book I came to conclusion:
28 speaks of you being too rigid to change, there is a need for an internal change but you resist/ignore it and project it into external circumstances.

62.3 speaks of the same thing:
"The tao (our circumstance) favours inner awareness and we avoid this by creating outer activity.
When the pressure for change is from our inner reality, yet this is transferred to a projection outside, there is a blockage of inner flow which shows itself in activity of our personal unconscious and this will be heard, if we do not listen it will force its way into consciousness; accidents are formed this way."

Hex 16 says wait for a change of cycle that is almost here, decrease your involvement in outer world for a while, be more attentive to the source of the energy inside, which produces the cycle of activity.

Also you can get from 40 to 16 by line 2 (three foxes), receiving a clear direction (arrow) from inner voice by listening to it, and eradicating all the foxes(doubts).

I think both readings emphasize the need to find an inner peace, and be less active in the outer world, because your inner problems/resistance is the source of outer circumstances.
 

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Wow, thank you Ashteroid for all the time and care you put into this reading; I am grateful.

I am also wholly perplexed, and please let me explain why.

Let me quote snipets from your text
"Hex 28
Line 3, Wilhelm:
This indicates a type of man who in times of preponderance of the great insists on pushing ahead. He accepts no advice from others, and therefore they in turn are not willing to lend him support. Because of this the burden grows, until the structure of things bends or breaks." And "Nigel Richmond's book I came to conclusion:
28 speaks of you being too rigid to change, there is a need for an internal change but you resist/ignore it and project it into external circumstances."
62.3 speaks of the same thing:
"The tao (our circumstance) favours inner awareness and we avoid this by creating outer activity.
When the pressure for change is from our inner reality, yet this is transferred to a projection outside,


This gives me the impression of forceful external action (be it both busy work to avoid inner reflexion or change or of barreling through obstacles regardless). A kind of bull in a china shop kind of feel.

The reality of the last year or more has been the reverse. I've been reclusive, not engaging in a lot of outer activity, striving to take things one by one and seeking advice on how best to solve them in a considered way. Some friends have been concerned about my reclusiveness, wishing to see me engage with outside activity more, yet that is exactly what would strike me as busy work, distractions so to speak from both the energy needed to solve concrete life challenges and regaining the inner peace needed to figure out where my priorities /hopes/needs are going forward once all this "crap" is behind me. I find the "resisting the internal change and thus I project it to external circumstances" particularly tough to grasp in this context.

Then "And 62.3: There are dangers lurking for which they are unprepared. Yet such danger is not unavoidable; one can escape it if he understands that the time demands that he pay especial attention to small and insignificant thing.There is something that you are ignoring, treating it as insignificant and worthless."

The only thing I can think of (that I am aware of at least) that I have put on the back burner (aside from drudgery, like my ironing pile or perfect filing :D) is a dull ache in my leg that comes and goes and for which there is no logical explanation. I'll deal with it when I get my checkup in the spring. I'm wondering if that might be what you warn me that I am ignoring and could be dangerous.

I whole heartedly agree I need inner peace. I can't imagine being less active in the outer world than I am. That is how I get back to my center and can handle all that is still to handle (preponderantly material issues). It is outer circumstances (outside events) of the past few years that have caused the troubles and shaken the inner peace, not the other way around.

I'm still going to have to sit on this one and see what more comes up. No wonder these are called translations... I'm missing something somewhere...
 

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Hmmm, not the answer I was expecting from you ;)
Oh well, that is because I don't have all the information that you have in your mind.

I've looked at the internal hexagrams of 62.3 -> 16, and guess what? it's 28 again, with lines 2 and 4 -> 39

Line 2: A dry poplar sprouts at the root.
Some kind of unusual revitalization.

Line 4: The ridgepole is braced.
Again some kind of repair happens.

The question was "What is it that is overloaded?", so in that context I think you are trying too hard to restore your previous life.
Nigel Richmond writes about 28.4 "Reliance on masking the stresses we have, would be a weak support".
Maybe you should get a new kind of life? Maybe that is the point that you are ignoring?


Then I looked at the internals of 28.3.5 -> 40: 1.2.4.6 -> 63(After Completion)
Dragon choosing his path, to go up alone (6) or down to the field (2), striving for balance (63).

So, another message can be: You shouldn't ignore your friends advice(28.3), you have exceeded the limit on your reclusion time, breathe new energy into your old routine (28.5), free yourself a little (40).
Don't overload yourself trying to be too careful/disciplined (62.3), be more enthusiastic (16).
Neat and compact idea :)
 

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Hmmm, not the answer I was expecting from you ;)
Oh well, that is because I don't have all the information that you have in your mind.
I'm sorry I disappointed you, Ashteroid :confused:, but yeah, obviously, you don't have a full picture. It's all very complicated, intertwined and to an extent scary.

The question was "What is it that is overloaded?", so in that context I think you are trying too hard to restore your previous life.
Nigel Richmond writes about 28.4 "Reliance on masking the stresses we have, would be a weak support".
Maybe you should get a new kind of life? Maybe that is the point that you are ignoring?
I know that, when all this finishes getting resolved and shaken out, it will result in a new kind of life. What was before will not exist going forward; practically speaking it can't anyway. I'm not ignoring it, but I'm not in the driver's seat either, I have very few choices beyond what to have for lunch or some such.

In those types of situations, when they last a while, it can become hard to see beyond the trees, visualize a new life, and sometimes - and admittedly that is the case for me - even figure out what kind of new life I would want, would be good for me and how to go about it. That's why I said, first, I have to finish solving all this stuff, get beyond it, see what the state of affairs are and then maybe there will be more clarity to make decisions on some big issues that are very much of a Solomon nature and will have huge consequences on everything else and for a long time to come. Thus my need for reclusion! I'm not a spring chicken anymore, reinventing oneself and ones life is not as simple as it may have been, and doing it solo makes it harder too.


Then I looked at the internals of 28.3.5 -> 40: 1.2.4.6 -> 63(After Completion)
Dragon choosing his path, to go up alone (6) or down to the field (2), striving for balance (63).

So, another message can be: You shouldn't ignore your friends advice(28.3), you have exceeded the limit on your reclusion time, breathe new energy into your old routine (28.5), free yourself a little (40).
Don't overload yourself trying to be too careful/disciplined (62.3), be more enthusiastic (16).
Neat and compact idea :)
See? Now that makes sense to me. I do feel I am reaching the end of what has been a useful reclusion time, and am getting ready to tentatively and carefully stick my nose out of my cave :).

But that translation seems the reverse of the first one, which suggested I was creating too much outside activity and to chill (which is why it made no sense to me).

I'm a novice at the Yi, so pardon my question: how can one arrive at two (apparently so different) translations from the same reading? How does one look at an internal hex? (If you could explain that, that would be terrific!). But what validity does an initial reading have if the significance of it shifts so much after looking at the internal hexes? :brickwall:

Ashteroid, thanks for your time and wisdom :)
 

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3.1.5 to 2

(sorry, this went long from quoting others!)

And so, I decided to ask the Yi: Please give me an image of the kind of life that would be good for me.
It's response, 3.1.5 to 2, feels like a pretty accurate statement of how things are, of what I am striving to do, as if the Yi is tossing the question right back at me.

Difficulty at the beginning/sprouting.
Hilary on the oracle:
From the source, creating success, constancy bears fruit.
Don’t use this to have a direction to go,
Fruitful to establish feudal lords.’
> keep plodding away, don't make a definitive choice (direction) yet. But who might be the "feudal princes to appoint" (legge)?

Hilary on the pairs:
Sprouting forms a pair with Hexagram 4, Not Knowing:
‘Sprouting: seeing, and not letting go your dwelling place.
Not knowing: disordered and also clear.’

Again, the reference to not letting go of your dwelling place! But of all issues at hand, that is the biggest one: which dwelling place? The one of the heart (stone house) or the place I hang my hat, get work/income? WIthout the latter, I can't keep the former. And there is no work/income possible at the former. Catch 22. I am clear on the challenge, but don't have an answer yet (4). Hoping for a miracle!

The lines and what I am hearing (which may be completely off, who knows!):
L1 - Legge: The first line, undivided, shows the difficulty its subject has in advancing. It will be advantageous for him to abide correct and firm; advantageous also to be made a feudal leader.
Hilary: ‘Encircled by stones. Fruitful to settle with constancy, Fruitful to establish feudal lords.’

Encircled by stones is an apt description of my limited ability to act and choose for the time being. I am planting seeds left and right (warp and woof), but don't know what will sprout yet. It also makes me think of my stone house...

L2 - Legge: The fifth line, undivided, shows the difficulties in the way of its subject dispensing the rich favors that might be expected from him. With firmness and correctness there will be good fortune in small things; even with them in great things there will be evil.
Hilary: Small constancy, good fortune – great constancy, pitfall.’

Hilary is gentle here -- take care of the little things, be careful of pushing big things is how I read it and again, it fits well with the current situation.
Legge makes me feel anxious with his reference to evil (and there has been evil behind some of what I am dealing with)

This in a context/back drop of 2, staying receptive and open to possibilities. Earth, if taken literally, the house has land on which I plant and things sprout. It is also a place of refuge where I do take root, but as the image of the hex strikes me, rather in isolation (the space between the 6 broken lines is an openness, but also like a void).

Trying to get more insight, I looked at the fan yao thanks to LiSe's site:
2.1 >Treading on hoarfrost, hard ice is arriving.
Every thing and every time has its Dao. The earlier one sees the signs of this Dao, the better one can act according to it. One’s degree of sight and insight decides about the direction one’s life might take. One's ability to act in time decides if it actually will.
(Changes to hex. 24 - to what extent should one consider that in interpreting the reading? How far does one go is a question I wonder about.)
6 at 5: Yellow skirt. Eminent auspiciousness.
A good heart shows in everything one does. Inner beauty shines through the outward appearance and actions. Therefore a good ruler does not have to rule. He is the rules himself, so he does not need books with rules.
(Changes to hex. 8 - same question. When asking forward looking questions, I often get 8 Seeking Union as a backdrop, which is no surprise since, wholly on my own, I do wish to feel like I belong to something larger than myself!)

Only found one thread (http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?390-3-1-5-to-2-feels-good) with this combination and appreciated Bradford's suggestion to Val who, surrounded by cliffs on 3 sides, should follow the stream to escape from the one way out (felt friendly!). Wary though about Bruce's mention of intrigues or political factions, which does echo with the evil that has been at the root of the situation I'm in.

In sum, unless I'm missing something, the Yi summed things up (go with the flow, take care of the small things, you'll find a path out, don't make any rash decisions, timing is everything ) but I don't feel it provided insight on the question posed :confused:
 

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The validity of initial reading still holds, it is just that you have changed the context information for me.
And I tried to dig deeper, by looking at the internal hexagrams, trying to extract more info.

To increase your understanding of the Yi you should read some books about it, let me give you some examples from "Heritage of change" by W.A. Sherrill (I've found it in another thread here, you can skip first 36 pages about the history of Yi)

p.58
In the sense that by knowing the past one can predict the future Yi Ching falls into the category of foretelling the future. But this is not divination, which means foretelling
by supernatural means. Yi Ching predictions are based on natural rather than supernatural means.
Is it supernatural or divination that we can predict the day of the month when the moon will be full, when tides will ebb and flow, when the sun will rise or set? These are predictable because they follow
natural laws. We know when the moon was dark so we can calculate when it will be full. We know the pattern of all the tides yesterday so we can say what they should be tomorrow. It is the same principle for determining sunrise.

p.60
One should trace the situation back to see why it developed the way it did, why one got to the point where there seemingly is no way out, what caused it and what wasn't done to prevent it from reaching such a devastating state. Why is it that they didn't recognize the course the situation was taking so that they could and should initiate action to alter what seemingly is fate or destiny?
Everything that happens to man falls back on him sometime, someplace, somehow. These are the teaching of Taoism, Buddhism and Confucianism.

p.68
While it isn't vital it is strongly recommended that everyone analyzing a hexagram meditate on the information and guidance given him. To say the least it is difficult to consider all the details connected with any question or circumstance. Consequently, the full import and direction given by Yi Ching is generally not comprehensively understood until after the situation has finalized. It is only hind sight that the exact meaning and intent given by Yi Ching can be fully rationalized. In the meantime, meditation can and usually does provide a greater understanding of the matter and the suggested guidance than is possible by comprehension without this process.

p.96 Some general advice
So if you want to be "delivered" from some circumstance or situation, you must, according to the foregoing, first make yourself receptive to the new conditions ( #2, Receptive),
change or convert your mental attitude to proper thinking ( #24, Return), recognize that you and you alone are the one responsible for solving or resolving the matter in questions since everything that happens to you is dependent on yourself (#7, Army), approach the problem correctly (#19, Approach), work quietly and diligently ( #36, Darkening of the Light), from which there will be progress ( #46, Progress), bringing about the desired deliverance ( #40, Deliverance), after which, having achieved your aim, you should rest and not try to accomplish great things ( #62, Preponderance of the Small), etc.

I think you are doing great here, you have been to 36 and 40 and 62 are almost done.

p.106 about inner hexagrams
2. Our second point relates to the body of the hexagrams, that is the inner and the outer trigrams or sometimes also referred to as the upper and the lower. By way of amplification we are told that the inner trigram generally relates to self or the particular question or situation under consideration, whereas the outer relates to external conditions and external effects. On some occasions, one may want to look at them as possibly heavenly and earthly considerations.

You get inner hexagrams using the lines 2 3 4 and 3 4 5 of the original hex.
Also try this tool http://www.psychicscience.org/ching5.aspx
there is a button at the top '>>', which allows you to see the internal/nuclear hexagrams.

p.110 The most important thing here:
7. A person cannot make a final judgment regarding a question or situation without knowing the background on which it arose. We should know the hexagram which represents the preceding conditions. Just as in travelling, one can get to New York by several routes and modes of travel, so one can get into a particular situation or difficulty in one of several ways. We must know and select the right one in order to make a proper and correct judgment. Earlier in this chapter we showed several cyclic ways in which hexagrams came or were preceded by other hexagrams. Understanding this shows us that the fortune tellers using Yi Ching are only guessing (if lucky they can guess right) since they do not know and cannot determine the origin of matters on which they are making predictions. It is true they can use Yi Ching as we have described here. But they do not know underlying facts and related circumstances. Hence they should not be relied upon even though they are using such a valuable work as Yi Ching. Only the consultor or questioner has reasonable background information and even this may not be complete.

I think this thread will also help Should-I-take-part-of-the-show-Hex-21-5-6-gt-17

I don't consider myself an expert yet, but working on the answers here on this forum helps you to advance and develop your skills, and also as an external observer there is a bonus of emotional detachment, and it helps to see matters in a different more objective way.
 
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WOW Ashteroid! Thank you. You responded so quickly and what you wrote is so incredibly helpful, I am very grateful. I'm printing your message and will delve into it and the references you offered more in a little bit (mundane but necessary: dog needs a walk!)

And thank you for this "I think you are doing great here, you have been to 36 and 40 and 62 are almost done." It's been such a long road, that sometimes I can no longer see if it is progressing or not (thus feeling stuck sometimes, or buried under). Your writing that was a big fat ray of sunshine :). Indeed, I agree, "as an external observer there is a bonus of emotional detachment, and it helps to see matters in a different more objective way. " -- which is why, though sometimes I feel i am imposing, I have reached out for the wisdom here as I am (obviously!) not detached enough to perceive the readings in an objective way.

:hug: Thanks Ashteroid, you get your angel wings from this (not so random) act of kindness.

Off to deal with canine bladder issues, **that's** something I can deal with and in a timely manner :D
 

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[Moderators: Should this part be moved to exploring divination? it's no longer dealing with the above reading per se...]

"Tracing back the situation to see why it developed as it did... You should know the hexagram that represents the preceding conditions" makes huge sense to me. I downloaded the book (may well have to get it printed, the PDF on my PC is really slow to navigate), printed the tables of derivation and read the entire chapter with care.

I'm feeling like I did in Physics class nearly a half century ago, where the prof's experiment seemed completely logical and comprehensible, but when trying to replicate it, there is a risk of setting off an explosion.

One learns by doing though...In the book it suggests choosing a hex that represents what one is aiming for, recognizing the starting point and charting the cycle of events to get to the desired outcome. It gives a few examples which make sense and seem straight forward. I understand how they got from A to B.

A little while ago, I'd asked the Yi: You give me a lot of 8's (and 8 is indeed one of my desired outcomes), so what can I do to achieve 8? It answered: 18 UC. And I asked what kind of 18 are you talking about? 32 UC it answered. I read the conversation as: to successfully achieve union, I have to deal with/get rid of lasting corruption (and indeed, corruption or things akin to it, is the root of the situation I have been in). So in that, the Yi was spot on. (But like a friend of mine who can't cook, telling her to preheat the oven, make cake batter, pour it in the pan and bake at 300° for 45 minutes.. details on the cake batter are missing :) )

I figured this would make a good reading to learn the derivation method, especially since there were no changing lines to worry about. If horses could fly....

The tables for 8, 18 and 32 don't combine at all. So what to do when you can't find a starting point to chart the path to the desired outcome?

Otherwise, I know that to get from 18 to 8, lines 2, 3, 5, 6 have to change. So though the Yi had not given me changing lines, perhaps studying those that must change to get to 8 might shed light.
18.2>52
18.3>4
18.5>57
18.6>46
Which tells a story I can put like this (tell me if I'm off): In stilling inside (52) to make quiet and allow intuition to come forth, I'll not know yet (4)what path to take, but with patience, I'll can move gently step by step (57) to progress upwards (46), eventually achieving 8. I like that, it's a good story, and it does fit with what has been going on of late (guess I am kind of between 4 and 57!).

But the hex resulting from those individually changing lines don't appear in the 3 derivation tables either.

So I tried the tool you suggested Ashteroid, to discover the inner hexes. And the first inner hex of 18 to 8 is 54>23 (an ah ha moment, that pair touches on the genesis of it all), but then I get confused when it goes to inner hex 2 (63 to 2) and inner hex 3 (64 to 2) and inner hex 4 (back to 63 to 2). Like being on a road with too much signage!!!

But I feel incompetent, having failed my physics exercise, which was to track how to get to 8 from 18 using the derivative tables.. (I did not blow up the lab, though..):hissy:
 

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You are welcome, flashlight :hug: Thanks for the wings, they are great but now I can't wear any clothes :)

About the image of a good life, 3.1.5(Arduous beginnings) -> 2(Receptive)

I think both lines say that you need to work with the right people, 'employ assistants', or allow them to enter into your life because of hex 2.
Line 5, Wilhelm:
An individual is in a position in which he cannot so express his good intentions that they will actually take shape and be understood. Other people interpose and distort everything he does. He should then be cautious and proceed step by step. He must not try to force the consummation of a great undertaking, because success is possible only when general confidence already prevails. It is only through faithful and conscientious work, unobtrusively carried on, that the situation gradually clears up and the hindrance disappears.

Yes carry on, step by step, you got that right.

Hex 2 also says to accept whatever is offered to you, don't judge, just follow along.

Now, we can follow the pathway of lines, 3.1 -> 8, then 8.5 -> 2.
3.1 leads to 8, so that's why I think you need to find the right helpers for your task. These are 'feudal princes' that will help you advance.

And 8.5 has a full thread here, I'm just lazy to find it.
8.5 says wait for the right people/opportunities/game to come to you, don't run after them. If they don't like you - let them go.

Now, the fan yao thing, you've got it wrong. LiSe says you should take the lines individually, i.e.
3.1 -> 8, fan yao a) 8.1 -> 3;
3.5 -> 24, fan yao b) 24.5 -> 3.

a) Michael Daniels, 8.1 Be truthful with others and you will be fortunate.
The friends/helpers should feel sincere about/with you.
b) Michael Daniels, 24.5 Resolve to make a fresh start.

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About post #7, I just wanted you to understand "how can one arrive at two (apparently so different) translations from the same reading?".
It is possible because you have to apply your context to the general rules/laws that Yi presents to you.
I don't have the full info so I did my best to guess the overall direction/theme.
Background information, previous knowledge, context is the key.
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Otherwise, I know that to get from 18 to 8, lines 2, 3, 5, 6 have to change. So though the Yi had not given me changing lines, perhaps studying those that must change to get to 8 might shed light.
I also don't know what to do when the hexagrams don't fit into the table.. sorry. Perhaps you are at a junction, changing your path. Yes as a Man you are free to choose your path. And the tables Sherrill writes about, are only for the natural cycles.

But from 18 to 8 you should follow by changing one line starting from the bottom, i.e.
18.2 -> 52.3 -> 23.5 -> 20.6 -> 8.

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And about internal/nuclear hexagrams, I only look at the first sub-level, and you tried to go deeper than that. I think these reveal more and more deeper and larger cycles of the universe.
 
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You are welcome, flashlight :hug: Thanks for the wings, they are great but now I can't wear any clothes :)
Yes you can, just takes a little imagination :D You can have wings and keep warm / be elegant for New Year's Eve!

Now, the fan yao thing, you've got it wrong. LiSe says you should take the lines individually, i.e.
3.1 -> 8, fan yao a) 8.1 -> 3;
3.5 -> 24, fan yao b) 24.5 -> 3.

a) Michael Daniels, 8.1 Be truthful with others and you will be fortunate.
The friends/helpers should feel sincere about/with you.
b) Michael Daniels, 24.5 Resolve to make a fresh start.
I think we misunderstood each other. In looking at the line by line changes, I wasn't looking at the fan yao, but trying to construct the story line. I seem to recall someone (Rosada, Ginnie or Trojan -- ah, sorry for not being able to cite the right person off the top of my head) suggesting reading each changing line was a good way to do that. In this particular instance, what came out seemed to make a lot of sense.

I also don't know what to do when the hexagrams don't fit into the table.. sorry. Perhaps you are at a junction, changing your path. Yes as a Man you are free to choose your path. And the tables Sherrill writes about, are only for the natural cycles.
Oh good, I'm glad I'm not the only one who got stumped by that!!

But from 18 to 8 you should follow by changing one line starting from the bottom, i.e.
18.2 -> 52.3 -> 23.5 -> 20.6 -> 8.
:confused: uh, did you skip the first and fourth changing lines on purpose? Because if one is to work changing one line at the time starting from the bottom, I get 18.1>26.2>22.3>30.4>13.5>49
And if you did skip them on purpose, how does one choose which lines to ignore? Wouldn't it be like in research - choosing the data to fit the theory rather than the other way around? You lost me there Ashteroid!

Thank you for your help! I'm learning a lot and it feels wonderful. Have a wonderful Sunday wherever you are on this planet!
 

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I did skip lines 1 and 4 because you want to get from 18 to 8, and the lines that need to change are 2 3 5 6.
If you will change all the lines you would arrive at 49, not 8 right?, you need to change the pathway.

3.1.5 -> 2, yes you can look at each Moving line individually, but you also can look at them in vertical order, as a progression, from lowest to highest (only moving) and make a story too, it will be more like Sherrill does in his tables.
3.1 -> 8, 8.5 -> 2.
 

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"cpacuba" (argh, no cyrillic characters!) Ashteroid :)
It's fun being a student again!
 

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Ooh, I'm impressed )
You meant spasibo (transliteration), "спасибо"

I'll reply: Наздоровье 'Na zdorovie'
 
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never had to write it without cyrillic characters before, so clueless about transliteration LOL! My Russian as a fourth (or fifth, if you count Latin - and my Latin and Russian kept getting mixed up, it was rather funny at the time) language is old, rusted and totally useless, so no need to be impressed, I couldn't even order dinner at a restaurant at this point :) Wish it were as wonderful as your English! :bows:
 

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