Negative Behavior Pattern: 2.1.2.3 > 11???

[marien]

Hi,

I had this reading last week, and am still struggling to understand. Without going into too much detail, I asked about a behavior pattern that has caused me much pain. My question was "why do I do this?"

I've worked on this issue a lot over the years, and have some sense of the causes and solutions (though sometimes there's a big difference between understanding things on a conscious level vs the emotional level). So I feel like 2 >11 doesn't make sense though it may hit something deep that I've yet to understand. The receptive/following part does seem to fit, but I can't work out the relationship with 11. This feels like one of those big readings that will work itself out over the course of years.

Found some great stuff from Hilary,

Hexagram 11 is a hexagram of intense dynamism: despite Wilhelm's translation of its name, Tai, as 'Peace', I've never found it to be remotely peaceful in practice...

This aspect of the experience comes out clearly in its hidden core - the nuclear hexagram, 54, the Marrying Maiden. She is 'swept off her feet', hoisted without ceremony out of her comfort zone and up into a realm of far greater possibilities, but one altogether beyond her control. So is this loss of control a hidden danger of Hexagram 11? Perhaps. Or perhaps it's something you have to experience to know 'Flow' from the inside...

With hexagram 11, the power of qian is no longer 'out there' to be followed; it's taken back inside, and made real through the outer trigram, Earth. Now there is a complete creative relationship between inspiration and realisation - and all things become possible:

If anyone has additional insight, I'd be so grateful.

Peace :bows:
mary

 

[my_key]

Negative Behavior Pattern: 2.1.2.3 > 11 My question was "why do I do this?"

Hi Mary
This looks to be a big call to you to look closer at what is causing these repeat behaviours on an internal level. Perhaps a time to be really honest and dig deeper than you have in the past.
This behaviour has obviously caused you discomfort over a period of time. This time you address it with renewed vigour. Question - In the past have you been attracted more to the outcomes of your old behaviour than you have to the outcomes of the new solutions?

2 - You are giving form to what you have created.
2.1 - You are not seeing what you need to see from the situations that have arisen and you are playing the same old records. Put on your winter coat things are going to get a bit chilly.
2.2 - What you are doing is the right thing for you to be doing now. Be what you are now. Don't fret you'll get it when you need to.
2.3 - Work on your inner feelings and you'll start to attract the new ways to you.
11 - Things are on the move. You are going to see and experience changes within yourself that will then be reflected in your external life. When the old tapes are in the process of being broken there are emotional storms to ride, before you reach the calm of the new harbour.

It sounds like exciting new challanges for you are underway. Enjoy the ride.
Blessings

Mike

 

[marien]

Hi Mary
Question - In the past have you been attracted more to the outcomes of your old behaviour than you have to the outcomes of the new solutions?

Mike, thanks. Wow. That question really hit me. It's so much still the old outcomes that I'm attracted to, and attracting to me. And what you said made me realize that I don't even know what the outcomes of new solutions actually are. I can think of solutions, but only as they relate to the old outcomes. So it's this huge unknown I'm trying to get to, and now this reading is starting to make sense.

You other points were spot on, too. Feels like I'm stuck in 2.1, but hoping this process is sequential. Maybe from the insight above, I can start moving into 2.2 and 2.3.

Thanks again,
Mary

 

[ginnie]

2.1.2.3>11

2.1 is about negativity and being petty. At first it is like light frost on the ground, but if you keep becoming more and more negative, you will harden into solid ice.

2.2 is a type of job that is easy for you. "Nice work, if you can get it," as the expression goes. But you have to stay disciplined!

2.3 has to do with administrative work; perhaps civil service work, working for the government. It would be quite inappropriate to blow your own horn or claim any great accomplishment. Leave fame for other people. Leave the credit for other people. Just be satisfied with getting your work done through to the end.

I don't know you, Marien. Wouldn't it be funny if your question has nothing to do with work?

Anyway, 2 is a wonderful quality. It means to learn not to judge others and not to judge ourselves, either. Just be steady. When we learn to extend ourselves with goodwill to those above us, our supervisors or leaders, they will appreciate our good attitude and give us our due. And so everybody prospers, which is the meaning of hexagram 11.

Seems to me the question is a self-blaming question. "Why do I do this?" implies that you think you're doing something wrong. I don't know all the details of your situation, but the answer is to make peace. What is involved with that is an inner shift, where we decide that how we do something is more important than what we do.

 

[gene]

Without knowing too much of the background, I can't give too much of an answer. But I suspect 11 has to do with things falling back to their "natural" state, which is probably what you do in this given situation, is fall back to your natural state. The reason Wilhelm calls it "peace" is because everything is in harmony, at least in the sense of being in their proper place. The problem with acting out of our "natural state" is that we are on automatic pilot and not really aware of where our "airplane" is flying to. Hexagram 2 line one says, "when hoarfrost is on the ground, solid ice is not far off." One of the many subtleties of this line is that we must pay attention to the signs. When we are acting from our natural state, we do not see the signs. In this case, we do not see where our behavior is leading us. I am reminded of the great line in "Star Wars" where Yoda is counselling Luke, and he says, "many years have I watched this young man. Never his mind on where he was going. Never his mind on what he was doing." And this is the state of the naturally minded human. We are on auto pilot, and we never pay attention to where the ship is taking us. Now, when we look at line one of hexagram 11, it says, "when ribbon grass is pulled up, the sod comes with it." In other words, when we tear up the structures the bind us to certain personality traits, we also find the glue that holds it together. In other words, our own subconscious tendencies are now brought to light. This same idea is expressed in a sense, in hexagram 35 line four, where "hidden things" are brought to light. Then they can be dealt with, else they scurry away and we must search them out once more. This is all the time I can take to discuss this right now, although I think there is much more to it. If I can I will say more later, but it isn't all that likely.

Gene

 

[gene]

One more thing I might say here, quickly. Line two carries a similar charge, in that it says, "without purpose." In the context it is a positive thing, but applied here it is more negative, because we are engaging in negatively charged behavior because it is automatic and not thought out. And, while in the context in the book it works to one's advantage, when we just react, we are not allowing things to work the way they should for our greater good. It is only when we HAVE a purpose, that we can allow things to happen automatically, WITHOUT a purpose. A little irony there. The line teaches us to go step by step, just as in line one, we saw the first step, and understood the step that follows. It will take conscious effort to exchange one behavior pattern for another, and that is reflected in the line, "straight, square, and great."

Gene

 

[marien]

2.1 is about negativity and being petty. At first it is like light frost on the ground, but if you keep becoming more and more negative, you will harden into solid ice.

Seems to me the question is a self-blaming question. "Why do I do this?" implies that you think you're doing something wrong. I don't know all the details of your situation, but the answer is to make peace.

Thanks Barbra. My question wasn't work related, but you still tuned into exactly what I've been going through. Been experiencing those cold hard feelings lately-- not quite ice, but definitely not flowing. And your second point woke me up. There's a lot of self blame involved, so that was a call for me to get out of that kind of thinking.

A bit of context then. The behavior pattern has to do with the choices I make in relationships, and is related to codependancy, family of origin issues, etc. I recognize it as a pattern as I went through a massive substance abuse problem at a young age, and I recognize the behavior. Even if I refrain from drugs and alcohol (which I've done for thirteen years ), there's still a tendency to transfer those impulses, and to "use" in other contexts. So it has happened again recently that I've chosen a man who is basically heroin to me, and I'm trying to get myself into a longterm relationship recovery plan. That was the essence of my question...

Gene- your reading was most amazingly accurate in that sense. Everything you said relates to this process, and especially that part about finding my natural state. Based on yours and Barbra's readings, I asked the Yi to comment on my inner state and progress thus far. I got 61.2.4 > 25 ompom: I'm feeling so much better today, like the feelings are flowing again. There was something intangible to me about 2 > 11, like this huge space opening up, though it was the opposite of what I was experiencing at the time. And maybe I had become too insensitive to my own readings (too analytical), so Yi offered something that would be harder to grasp in my usual way. So yes Gene, I'm working on allowing things to happen without purpose. Basically letting go of the addictive behaviors, and opening up to the unknown. Thank you so much.

:bows:
Mary