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Hoping someone can help me get a bit of clarity on how these readings should be interpreted. Even though I have further info about the situation, having trouble reconciling with the actual castings, a great opportunity for me to learn more about how all this works.

Around one month ago, I met a distinguished person at an event and we had a great connection. Kind of empathic. He asked whether I could help with a project to a resolve a long-standing issue. I followed up via email as requested, however, until today, I had not heard a word from him. After a week or so I did a casting to understand why no response from him.

13.3>25

Hex 13. I read this as fellowship with men, which was definitely the subject at hand, ie. supporting a cause I believe in and is dear to my heart.
Line 3. You hold with unworthy allies. There are other interpretations of this line but unfortunately I didn't look to much deeper when I read this. So I took it to mean that I was unlikely to hear from him and that I had overestimated the situation/his capability/whatever.
Hex 25. In a fit of total egotism, I decided that I was entirely innocent, LOL, so somehow I had "fallen" for a line from him which had come from the moment (he was drinking wine, I wasn't, plus I was determined to see good in everything that particular evening).

Last night, I couldn't take the lack of response anymore so I sent a follow up email with the idea of letting the whole thing go once and for all. It started like this... "Obviously there has been some misunderstanding or unexpected circumstances have arisen in relation to..." etc. I then went on to reinforce my high regard for him, made no further reference to the aforementioned project and finished off with a genuine wish to be of service to him if he ever requires such.

Today I finally received a response which makes my take on the original reading very misleading. His father is very ill and he has been distracted from his work and will continue to be so for quite a while.

I did a bit of further looking into 13.3 and came across the idea that perhaps my motives were unworthy. Thus I did a reading to help shed light on this.

Were/are my motives unworthy in relation to G?
50.3.6>40

Seems they weren't - from where I am standing. In fact it all seems quite positive. Describes the potential, that wasn't taken up, then possible future good outcome.

So what am I missing about 13.3>25 ? How can the two readings about the same person be so different? I ask because I have had the exact same reading for at least two other people over the past 6 months and I have taken them both quite literally. Hmm, repetition.
 
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It seems to have been a real (13) but imperfect (line 3) contact - I mean, the connection was there but something is blocking anything further for now. 25 suggests the best course of action is to expect no linear development, although the connection was real.

It's frustrating but people can be open in the moment and later recollect reasons why they don't feel they have place in their lives for a new friend/associate/whatever. If you have had a few experiences like that recently it seems to be a phase. Is it possible that there is a difference between what you consciously want (that such connections develop) and how ready you are for long term connection (maybe less than you think)? Or maybe it is just a phase for you. I wouldn't assume that something is wrong or you did something wrong or the other person did. Maybe it would be useful if you asked something like, What is the best way for me to connect with other people at this time? Or any such question that you feel would be useful.
 

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Interesting information, thanks weaver. Good way to think of it "It seems to have been a real (13) but imperfect (line 3) contact"

It's funny how all I did was thank him for his presentation when he started questioning me at a personal level that was uncomfortable for me at the time. But I am quite used to it and I try not to let it get in the way too much. We had only just met, I don't see why he needed to know the ins and outs of how I came to exist, etc. I know I look different to the popular majority, but in every other way I am just like everyone else in this country. So there is a bit of hesitance around the idea that people seem to so frequently want to turn me into a story, rather than simply interact with the human they see in front of them, or not. I would never presume to ask such questions until I had established a relationship with the person and even then, it usually doesn't occur to me that another person's personal history is any of my business. Not a standard I impose on others, merely my preference.

As we were leaving he asked what my profession was and then asked for help to which I agreed. My motive for speaking to him was to thank him because I learned a lot from his talk. Since I posted the reading I discovered he is actually back in town doing business this week. Since he is well-known and I am interested in the cause he is a part of, this information came to me without any particular effort and I am glad I got a response from him before I read this news or I would have taken it personally. So our paths are clearly headed in entirely different directions and I do not expect to hear from him again.

I will reflect and think about what sort of question I should focus on - it is important for my self-development to have time interacting with others as there is a limit to what I can achieve as a "hermit" LOL!
 

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I ended up asked the same question weaver suggested. What is the best way for me to connect with other people at this time?

14.1.2.4.6 to 15

Hilary's translation
Line 1
‘No interaction with what is harmful,
In no way at fault,
So that hardship is not a mistake.’

Line 2
‘A great chariot to carry loads.
With a direction to go, no mistake.’

Line 4
‘It is not for you to dominate,
No mistake.’

Line 6
‘From heaven comes help and protection.
Good fortune,
Nothing that does not bear fruit.’

Line 6 has my attention because I have this idea in the back of my mind, that I am protected by something greater than my conscious mind can understand. I am frequently prevented/protected from becoming too entangled with certain types of people. Not that I act as if it removes any responsibility from myself but there is something within, say a feeling that I get - kind of a "wrong way, go back" sign. It leaves me unsettled when the facts don't match the feeling.

Over the past few years I have been learning to rely on that sense more and more, but I still tend to pursue validation of these feelings in the facts of the situation. I am annoyingly truthful and quite direct including about how imperfect I am, which seems to put certain people ill-at-ease. My logical brain says to me after the confusion has passed, if someone is uncomfortable with my way of being they are probably not someone I should be around.
 
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It sounds to me as though he was drawn to you, perhaps attracted to you, and therefore quite emphatic about talking to you and telling you to get in touch. But by the time you did he thought better of it, for reasons that I'm pretty sure aren't to do with you. You felt the initial push from him and you want to know what happened. That's all. I don't know if you'll ever find out satisfactorily (25) but it won't matter in a bit. I have a hunch there are qualities in you which you are only half aware of and that draw people who behave unusually intensely around you but don't follow through. If you were aware of what these qualities are, the whole process would be less confusing or frustrating and you could graciously accept their attention.

To me (and I hope someone with more pedigree comes along to interpret this for you as well) the second reading says that there is a lot in you - you have a lot of qualities. It's not your fault if you're going through a dry period socially (line 1). Don't underestimate yourself (line 2 - I think - I'm not very clear about this line). Although probably a lot of people are drawn to you, you can't push these contacts or interactions into any specific direction (line 4). Perhaps there is a latent spiritual quality in you - seeking, or even that you could end up as something of a counsellor or teacher (line 6) - I'm guessing here? But most of all I read the cast as saying that you have a lot to value in yourself but should scale down expectations - be moderate or modest. Expect to be treated politely and reasonably and to treat others that way. Don't necessarily project into the future, just enjoy the time you do spend with people and the exchange you have with them. The more small social interaction you have with people - smiling, saying hi, exchanging a small remark - the less any specific one will be weighted which might be a good thing right now.

I often find the commentary here useful:
http://www.iching123.com/14_text.htm and if you read line 6 it also talks about spreading benefit and contributing. That might be something like volunteer work or might be as small as spreading good will by smiling at people and making their day more pleasant.
 

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Well that is even more interesting. For the past 6 months or so, my highest priority every day is to take a walk and to acknowledge/greet everyone that makes eye contact. To "see" people. It has been so effective in making mine and everyone else's day more pleasant that even when I forget to look up, random strangers say good morning to me. And oh! the dogs and cats and birds, one of my friends thinks its like a disney movie when he goes for a walk with me. I started this approach to deal with my fear. For most of my life people have been yelling obscenities out of their car windows as they go by. Still happens occasionally, but I just file that in the comparative behaviours basket and laugh at them for not being original. "hmmm, must be a tourist". I know I have something almost compelling about me, but I have never "owned" it to the point where I adjust my thinking to accommodate that idea as the truth.

Also, I write poetry on a blog, for example, the second line of my last poem is "I'm on the side of the whole world". Surprised me how many (I had previously thought) crotchety-ranters in the blogosphere related to what I wrote and now we have an outburst of people writing about unity and getting back to their humanity. It's a beautiful thing, yet I am merely a messenger and doing my best to follow "the mandate of heaven". Such lines as being on the side of the whole world fly out of my mouth or onto the page before I even know what I am saying. I could so relate to that text in the link you provided. Muchas Gracias. :bows:

So I might as well accept that this is the way it's going to be for now and treasure what an amazing gift that is, even if it doesn't get me fed and housed. The other day, an older man was walking along the street picking (stealing?) flowers and herbs from people's gardens. I complemented him on discovering where the hidden stash of food was should a catastrophe ever come. He said to me, "There are too many people in the world now." "No" I replied, "There is plenty of room, there are just too many people in the world who have forgotten how to be." His expression turned to utter delight and he virtually skipped down the road. Definitely a treasured moment for me.
 
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That's a lovely line - being on the side of the whole world. Thanks for that thought. It seems you are connecting beautifully with people already!
 

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