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On where to hunker down for possibly the next 2 years: Hexagram 37 UC vs hex 53.5.6>15

yawiney

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I have been feeling isolated here in Hawaii and realizing if i don't leave soon i will be here for a while. My community in OR has been preping for this for a long time and is well provisioned. My girlfriend and car are in CA but i asked about going to OR because i don;t feel travel to CA is safe. Last night i asked:

"Yi How would it affect my life to fly to Oregon in the next few days?" - Hex 53.4.5 >15

3 days ago i asked " Yi, How would staying here in Maui for now affect my life?" -37 UC
My main question is, is 37 UC telling me to strengthen my relations here and stay or is it saying think about your Family in a way meaning that's why shouldn't stay.
It seems that Gradual Progress leading to humility bodes fairly well for going. Line 4 seems like a challenge that is not insurmountable and line 5 seems very good.
Thanks for any responses!
Stay safe out there!
 
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Thanks, Gonna edit my post to include it. It's in the thread title but i forgot it here.
"Yi How would it affect my life to fly to Oregon in the next few days?" - Hex 53.5.6 >15

And the one for staying here is 37UC so no resulting Hex.
 
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Mahalo! 🤙

I'm not usually concerned with the resulting hexagram, but I can't tell if you cast 53.4.5 to 56 or 53.5.6 to 15.
When you say line 4 sounds like a challenge that's not insurmountable and line 5 sounds very good, it seems more likely that you're thinking of lines 5 and 6. I just don't want to give a reading that might be on the wrong lines.

But I suspect that the 37 for staying is more about familiarity, security, the comforts of home.
 

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Mahalo! 🤙

I'm not usually concerned with the resulting hexagram, but I can't tell if you cast 53.4.5 to 56 or 53.5.6 to 15.
When you say line 4 sounds like a challenge that's not insurmountable and line 5 sounds very good, it seems more likely that you're thinking of lines 5 and 6. I just don't want to give a reading that might be on the wrong lines.

But I suspect that the 37 for staying is more about familiarity, security, the comforts of home.

Oh that's what i did wrong. It's 5 and 6. I read 5 and 6 but I remembered wrong when i posted. Gonna go edit the post.
Mahalo for letting me know.
I am still in the process of deciding and 53 came up again as the resulting Hex for a place to stay if i go back to the mainland so it's still in my cards for the mainland. I can't edit the title or the original post now since i did once already. there's no edit button showing there. Maybe i should delete this and re-post?
 

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"How would it affect my life to fly to Oregon in the next few days?" - Hex 53.5.6 >15
15 Context - Modesty, humility, making things even.
53.5 Well, you get what you want.
53.6 You have gone as far as you can go. Government job?

" Yi, How would staying here in Maui for now affect my life?"
37 UC - Family. Ohana.
You have responsibility to participate and do your part in a family.

- LL
 

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Can you still get a flight to Oregon? Anyway Modest/Progress might refer to the fact that Oregon would not be your final destination, that you would still need to eventually get to California.

37. Family sounds like staying in Hawaii would be a safe place to be, but kinda like you’re on hold where as the Oregon option - if it is still an option - sounds like you’d be making progress towards your ultimate goal.

I edited the title.
 
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Ok, so I've only glanced at it but I already see a lot going on in your reading.

I think the main thrust of it is that, well, geese are migratory. They don't settle down anywhere. Instead, they're always moving from place to place in search of a more hospitable environment. This is not an easy, comfortable way of life, but it comes naturally to a goose, like gliding through the air. It's hardwired into goose DNA. This differs from the restlessness of a wanderer (hexagram 56) who is always dissatisfied. IIRC, you said you're a touring musician. So, you know, wherever you lay your hat.

The idea of progressing toward a final destination is missing the point IMO. It's about the journey, the constant movement. Just like the woman who doesn't give birth for 3 years: for a while at least, it's about the pregnancy, not the baby. It's fine to think of that phrase as describing a goal that takes a long time to come to fruition, but there's all this other information in there. A baby is also an anchor. It means you have to settle down and build a home: what you probably won't be doing for a while if you go to Oregon.

So looking upthread, it doesn't surprise me at all that you haven't even secured a place to stay there. Psychic Donna sees a lot of couch surfing in your future. Good thing you know how to hang ten, brah! 🤙🤙

See, none of this is a problem if you're a goose. You could be alone in an island paradise with all the comforts and trappings of home--WHICH YOU LITERALLY ARE RIGHT NOW!!--and still feel the pull to be drifting through rough terrain with your flock. It's hardwired into your DNA, after all.

On the one hand, you have a very good, sensible option of staying in Hawaii, being all safe and warm and cozy. Or roughing it on the mainland with a loose-knit flock, in the thick of a crisis and not even knowing where you're gonna crash tonight. You need to be really, truly committed to living that way for a long duration if you go. Carrying that baby for three years. But there is very little doubt in my mind that you're going.

One last thing. There's this really beautiful image in your reading about the goose feathers used in a sacred dance. Everywhere you go, leaving a piece of yourself behind. To be cherished by the people you encountered, to inspire them long after you've inevitably split and receded from view.

Regards,
Donna
 

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Thanks @Rosada editing the title. It wouldn't let me do it.
I can still go from here but when i leave i likely won't be able to come back for a while.
My main question is could getting Family UC be reminding me that i would be separate from those on the mainland? And, in that case, having an influence of me going back? Or is it Just speaking to the question asked -(about staying here).
I see how it could be both. But maybe the I-ching only speaks to the question asked?
 

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Thank you for taking the time @ Changstein, Lots of good insight in there. And yeah, i have been on the road since february '19. It's been what i'm used to but I really hoping it doesn't go another 3 years without grounding. Especially now that i won't be touring for a while.
 

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So I reeaaaaaaally think the 37 is speaking to the question asked. Not gonna say the YiJing only and always speaks to the question asked, or insist that it's doing so in this case if you feel another way. But I really want to encourage you to either trust it more, or adjust your approach to make it easier for yourself to trust in it.

I'm not a fan of splitting a question over multiple readings tbh, meaning a reading for option A, another reading for option B and so on. If it were me, I would have done one reading on going to OR vs. staying in HI. I like how that just gets me directly to the heart of the matter. Some people caution against asking these kinds of either/or, yes/no questions, but I think it's the same as asking what's at issue here. The point is you have to set up the questions you ask in a way that's not going to leave you doubting whether they've been answered directly, or sidestepped or overruled. And I think that's why some people like to keep their questions very broad and open-ended.

When you split the question over two readings, you defined one reading as staying in HI, and the other as going to OR. In theory, that should unberden you of any doubts as to what each reading speaks to. If you're unsure of that, there's no point in splitting it over two readings, it isn't helping you to do so. FWIW i see the two readings as setting up a very clear contrast between the two possibilities in the way that I described, and whatever you make of my interpretation I see no reason to doubt that it speaks to the question asked. It seems to have been a successful approach in this case.

I am under the impression that you see these readings as having a very short shelf life, so on top of everything else, you're questioning whether the one from last week still applies. It's one thing to track how something changes over time. I get it. But you're basically entrusting this oracle to predict the future, right? "What's going to happen if i do this?" So why then confine the answer to the moment you asked? IMO, you are making this harder on yourself by doubting all this stuff.

You're still undecided, and even if you'd made up your mind (or missed the opportunity to choose), the reading could still tell you about your situation. Check that expiration date man, it's later than you think.

Regards,
Donna
 
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