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I met a guy for breakfast the other day who was matched up to me on eharmony. We had been chatting on the phone/email and decided to meet in person. I sensed huge chemistry & connection! And I felt he did too .. but haven't heard from him?? Perhaps I scared the crap outta him .. he brought up some lines on his palm and I offered some insight into what I saw. hmmm -

After leaving breakfast I was very excited and realized I haven't felt that kind of chemistry in a LONG time!! (nor even met someone I felt interested in getting to know better!) So, last night I asked the Yi for guidance ....

Truth of a possible tomance between Michael & I
1.5.6 > 34


Gosh, it seems it is saying yes. With a ton of energy & power behind this. Almost a sense of fatedness .. I would say from the 1 > 34 .. he felt it too. hmmm .. what do you all think?

and for further clarity:
What if I contact him?
50.2 > 64


This seems to give a further green light to go ahead. And I found it interesting that the final hexagram is 64 and what does 64 do but cycle back into 1.

Since the question was, what if I contact him .. I would say the Yi is showing me that it would be positive.

I would appreciate any and all advice on this. Reading for self regarding love, relatioships, etc .. is always a sticky area for me.

much love to all!!
Elizabeth
 

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"Truth of a possible romance between Michael & I
1.5.6 > 34

This says that a romance is possible and to try but there is also a warning and that is not to overplay your hand, don't overwhelm this guy, restrain your enthusiasm otherwise you will spoil everything. Hex 34 says that the romance has great potential but act with caution and do not push yourself on him, think before you do something.

"What if I contact him?
50.2 > 64"

This says yes but again, think before you act, as you need to be cautious so that you don't frighten the guy away, so before you make that phone call be sure that you are standing on a firm base.
 

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How do you get yes out of 1.5.6???

1.5
It furthers one to see the great man.

This just says it was right to go so far as to meet this man.

1.6
Arrogant dragon will have cause to repent.

This line specifically "warns against titanic aspirations that exceed one's powers. A precipitous fall would follow."
-Wilhielm.

And 34 particularly cautions against usurping the male's traditional role of making the first call:

The superior man does not tread upon paths that do not accord with established order.
-Wilhelm

So you went so far as to meet him, which was fine, but to aspire to more exceeds your powers.

Should you call him? 50.2 - 64. Again, absolutely not:

50.2
There is food in the ting. (Okay, you had one nice breakfast)
My comrades are envious,
But they cannot harm me. (So what? Was this just about proving to doubting friends that one could meet a decent person on eharmony?)
Good fortune. (Yeah, for one meal.)

64.
BEFORE COMPLETION. Success. (So yes, the first date went well, so far, so good.)
But if the little fox, after nearly completing the crossing, (If the woman, after nearly completing this ritual,)
Gets his tail in the water, (calls first)
There is nothing that would further. (there is no way a relationship will get started.)
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Sorry to be so negative. I'm just trying to match the words of the I Ching with your questions. If someone else can show how these hexagrams can be interpreted to be saying something different I'm all ears. But so far I don't see it.
 
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Hmm, yeah, I also can not make more than one breakfast of 50.2 :)
 
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Elizabeth, going to venture an educated guess. It looks to me as though power plays a key role in this chemistry between you and this guy, with you as being the dominant partner. Not that this is a bad thing, providing you both could be happy with that.
 

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Thank you everyone for the insights!! I felt from the advice presented, I needed to look a bit further into self and not so much into the idea of connecting with him. So, the question I ask was: What influences are at work here regarding my interest in Michael?

62.2 > 32

There is a passage in my favorite Iching book (by Anthony & Moog) about 62 ...
The image emplyed in the lines of this hexagram is of the little bird that is just hatching. It represents a correct conception that is materializing from a person's inner truth; it is just in the process of forming into insight. At first it is a vague feeling that, given time, can form into an image that becomes an insight w/many ramifications. One notices this in the creative writing process, where the writer is visted with a quick glance paper and as he allows it to unfold in its many ramifications, he follows it until it emerges into a complete and whole picture. Correctly understood, it is a process of unfolding, much like that of a flower; all of the petals are tightly wrapped up in the bud and are "there", but they attain completeness of expression and realization only by allowing the process to continue undisturbed. Interference by the ego, while the insight is unfolding, distorts this process and brings it to a sudden halt. The ego interferes by seeing that it can use the insight as an intrument to fulfill its opportunistic desires. Hastily drawn conclusions are the result. Invariably, they are delusions.

Perhaps I am creating the "story" instead allowing the unfolding. Line 2 seems to point toward .. there are no missed opportunities and don't get caught up in right or wrong. So, I felt an intense attraction toward the guy .. I could just leave it at that. Which is a good thing; I was beginning to wonder if I would feel that ZING again :)
If anything the interaction showed me that there is "chemistry" out there waiting - let it unfold.

And my take on 32 .. could happen w/him. But I need to follow the advice of 62 and let go of the details and allow the unfolding.

What do you all think? Am I more right on? or do you feel I am off track? I want to really say THANKS for all feedback .. this board and your imput is going to help me to take my understand of the IC to a much deeper level.

love!!
Elizabeth
 
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How about a little feedback on the offered interpretations, rather than just throwing more readings out there. We're all here to learn, too.
 

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What if I contact him?
50.2 > 64

Hex 50.2 There is food in the cauldron You have what it takes to achieve something significant, to be able to make contact, wow, such a simple thing can be very significant here.

My comrades are envious Basically take absolutely no notice of what others say, just carry on and phone.

But they cannot harm me Thats right, nobody can stop you doing what you want to do in order to achieve the result that you want.

Good fortune Well, if you contact him then you will know one way or the other the future of this potential relationship. If you come out a winner, then people cannot take that away from you.

What has a breakfast got to do with a future phone call, the question is asking about a future course of action and not about the past.
 

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Hi Bruce ..
I apologize! I probably wasn't very clear in my post - because of what you & others had posted and the varying degree of either could be a possible relationship to others seeing "no way" to you posting me being the more dominate partner -- I had thought that this isn't about him at all ... this is about me, my feelings. In truth, I really don't know what he felt towards me at the breakfast. I could guess, I am pretty intutive - but I still don't know for sure.

So, I feel you all brought such a level of clarity with your insights. I think you were very right on, that I could be the more dominate partner and pursue this relationship and possible end up with what I have always gotten. Maybe I need to "do this differently".

If it feels right between him & I, then I dont' mind being the initiator. Perhaps he is just shy, or feels intimidated. So, I feel with your educated guess .. you could be right on. As with Willowfox, that there is a possibility for a connection, but "play it cool" and don't overwhelm him.

Thank you for posting your comment - and I hope you understand that you guys did help me realize this isn't about him, a story of a possible romance .. it is about why am I feeling what I am feeling.

Thank you again -
Elizabeth
 
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Elizabeth,

Just for what it's worth, I don't see any "yes" or "no" in any of these readings. I think the Yi just illustrates a picture of the dynamics at work here. Even if you tried to change your ways to suit this man, that couldn't last. Same if he tried to "do the right thing" by being the perfect guy for you. People are as they are. Either each compliments the other or they don't. There are countless mutually satisfying relationships where the woman is the dominant of the two.

If you like this guy (and this has nothing to do with your readings), and you are interested in exploring this thing, then get together again and see where it goes. mmm, maybe that does have something to do with 1.5?
 

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The overall picture with Hex 1 is one of rich, fertile, creative energy. There is something there. Enjoy the joy you feel in this dance - and while the general message with hex 1 is to act, inspire, be the catalyst to move things forward, changing line5 says you are onto something, but be patient as things currently appear confusing. Trust in the process as the way reveals itself to you. Line 6 - Be cautious about trying to hard to force things to happen - wait for him to call - as Karcher says "don't try to dominate the relationship. Resulting Hex 34 - you've already taken heed to avoid letting the ego lead this dance through listening to the advice of our members - because there are other ways to influence without being too direct. Walker says "the IC teaches us a different way of acquiring and using power to lead to greatness and enduring influence - through modesty, gentleness and equanimity. Savor what you are feeling right now without taking action for the moment. The way will reveal itself to you in time.
 

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Willowfox,
Thanks for clarify your thoughts on 50.2. I can see how you came by your interpretation now. As usual however, as one stares at the words a bit longer the meaning can reverse itself again and now I'm seeing that even with reading "There is food in the ting" as refering to more than the actual meal and meaning that the seeker has good reason to feel confident, still I think "My comrades are envious, But they cannot harm me. Good fortune," does not necessarily mean, "Ignore advice of jealous friends, go ahead and call." Could we not also see the IChing as reasuring her that since what she has is worthy, she should ignor the doubts she herself is filling her mind with (being her own "envious comrade") and not think that she needs to lower her standards and make the first call. "Good fortune" could mean that if she will refuse to settle for anything less, eventually she will have "good fortune" either because he calls her, or she meets someone better who does.

Rosada
 

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50.2 changes to 56, not 64, if i am not mistaken. FWIW, i really liked rosada's impressions and although I think there is definitely food in the til, 2 is an early line.....something about" letting it cook a while longer" seems to resonate for me...56 could mean you'd be back on the eharmony site lookin around if you move too quickly on this.
 

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:)if it was 50.3 to 64, the advice wuld be not to call him, not to be impatient
 

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As listener rightly pointed out Hex 50.2 changes to Hex 56.

This question seems to be difficult for some people for some reason, should she make contact, there is only one very simple answer, yes. She won't know if she doesn't try.

As I said before Hex 50.2 gives every indication to make contact, a phone call is all that is needed, just to say hello and whatever, so why not?

Now, Hex 56 sheds a new light on the question, the traveller and all things pertaining to travel, such as phone calls. This phone call is like a journey of discovery, she won't know the answer until she gets to the destination. It also indicates that she should try and learn as much as possible about the situation, she has to find out more about this guy before making any kind of formal commitment. This phone call is important because it could well change her life. This hex says make that call, go on the adventure, explore the possibilities.
 

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oops .. I had made a typo :-(

When I was reading about 50 > 56 .. I went back & looked in my journal .. I should have typed a 3 instead of the 2! The hexagram for: What if I contact him was: 50.3 > 64

I can feel the sense of connection/chemistry but also confusion referred to in 1.5.6. I decided to go ahead and just send a general email stating I had nice time getting together, we seemed to have common ground/things to talk about and just wished him a good day. He wrote back, just stating "yea, he did too, had busy day and maybe we should get together if I feel like it".

So, I thought, ok, got my answer (thanking the universe), he really isn't that interested. So, I let it go. Got home last night, he send another email telling me how much he liked me and how beautiful he thought I was. LOL I laughed to myself as I felt like hex 1 was unfolding before my eyes and the definite attraction that is there, but the mixed messages/confusion. (btw - I haven't written a response yet .. just being with it all for a bit and think about my words carefully)

I thank everyone for their imput!! This has been so valuable in gaining deeper understanding of the guidance/message of the IC. This is certainly a life-long study isn't it? :)

Namaste!
Elizabeth
 

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Aha! Yes, with 50.3 the chance of more than 1 breakfast is considerably higher. :D

Good luck, you two. :)
 

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50.3 Good fortune comes in the end.

Cool! Thanks for giving us the feedback, Elizabeth.
 

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And 34 particularly cautions against usurping the male's traditional role of making the first call:
Rosada's observation is apt. And another rule out there is that traditionally, a guy waits three days before making further contact. I applaud your move to upsurp tradition and reach out for clarity. An email was a soft, open gesture for communication. Enjoy the dance!
 

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