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Concerning some signs she has been showing indirectly, expressing a wish someone would come forth, I asked "What do _I_ need to know about this?" Because maybe someone else, after all, is the object of her interest now.

And I got 48.3.5. There is cool clear water no one is drinking from. If only the King understood this, sorrow would pass. Changing to 7 "Recruiting Allies" - "Army". Umm - really?

So I followed up with "Is this water for me?" and I cast 29 Unchanging. "Dangerously Deep" / "The Abysmal."

What do you think, esteemed readers? This has certainly not been the most reciprocal of relationships in many ways, and my heart is a bit ouchy. But it sounds like maybe... Thanks.

- L
 

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Tricky right, given the question? In the past I would primarily go by the commentaries, but lately I have been trying to read the images and symbolism more....
 

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Hi Lavalamp,

48. Ching / The Well



THE JUDGMENT

The town may be changed,
But the well cannot be changed.
It neither decreases nor increases.
They come and go and draw from the well.
If one gets down almost to the water
And the rope does not go all the way,
Or the jug breaks, it brings misfortune.

THE LINES

Nine in the third place means:
The well is cleaned, but no one drinks from it.
This is my heart's sorrow,
For one might draw from it.
If the king were clear-minded,
Good fortune might be enjoyed in common.

° Nine in the fifth place means:
In the well there is a clear, cold spring
From which one can drink.

29. K'an / The Abysmal (Water)



THE JUDGMENT

The Abysmal repeated.
If you are sincere, you have success in your heart,
And whatever you do succeeds.

If one gets down almost to the water
And the rope does not go all the way,
Or the jug breaks
, it brings misfortune.



If you are sincere, you have success in your heart,
And whatever you do succeeds.


If the king were clear-minded,
Good fortune might be enjoyed in common

In the well there is a clear, cold spring
From which one can drink.


The well is cleaned, but no one drinks from it.
This is my heart's sorrow,
For one might draw from it.

In the well there is a clear, cold spring
From which one can drink.
In the well there is a clear, cold spring
From which one can drink.

In the well there is a clear, cold spring
From which one can drink.



Do you like this girl? I'm assuming we're talking about a girl here.

 
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Thanks. Yes Kenji, a girl. Who broke my heart utterly, whom the Oracle said just a few months ago had deliberately hurt me, said had abandoned me with my guts spilled out bleeding on the side of the road to die... Who did finally speak to me with the validation and warmth that was missing when she broke up with me, when I went over there unannounced a couple weeks ago. But who still won't write back either.

So to get these lines now seems quite a miraculous reversal, so I'm trying to check myself for an overabundance of creative/wishful thinking. I hear the words about "if the rope does not go all the way," I would be disappointed with myself if I didn't do everything I could... But my heart is a bit sore.

Funny though, I did have a dream about ropes of light....
 

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The thought of a heart lost might sting more than that of a broken one.
If I were you I would go over to her place. Be cool, friendly, do the stuff that the two of you like. Use your own best judgement of course. Remember I get the karma if I make you choose a bad choice so let's make the best possible one!:D

When I didn't talk to a girl I liked(TWICE!!! Liked doesn't really cut it.) I felt like my insides were going to burn up(literally).

How about this.
What would you do if you were going to die tomorrow?
What would you do if you were going to live forever?

Anyway good luck!
Remember my ass will get fried if you screw up because of me so use good judgement!
Good luck again!:D
 

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How about this.
What would you do if you were going to die tomorrow?
What would you do if you were going to live forever?

Anyway good luck!
Remember my ass will get fried if you screw up because of me so use good judgement!
Good luck again!:D
Then we might have to change your name to Kenji Willowfox! Heh. Willowfox I hope is healthy and doing well, hopefully the merit of helping so many people with readings is greater than the burden she took on by helping them.

Thanks Kenji.
 

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Well Kenji, we could not have been more wrong! I'll spare you the gory details, but she was very offended by my coming over.

I'm ok though, regardless of the reading's interpretation I prepared my heart for anything, and I'm at peace actually for the first time over her, it's cleancut. I have my answer, I was true to myself, and did all I could. I can do no more, and I accept her flaws (not that deciding I wasn't for her is a flaw!)

For reading purposes, there is obviously a difference between water from a living spring and water filling up an abyss. Perhaps water in the abyss has some relationship to "stagnation" or something, water that has no living source, emotions accumulated from elsewhere so it's all feelings repeated from the past, not the present, nothing new?

Live and learn Kenji, we live and learn...
 

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Hi Lavalamp,

Sorry to hear the news. I'm glad something came out of it for you although it would have been nice for it to have gone well.

I still don't know if the well is really bad here.
You had a clear cold spring to drink from and you had an abyss.
Is there anyone else that might be this cold clear spring?
Maybe someone that's always sort of there in a good way.

The well might just be you of course.
There's something I'm missing here.

Let us know how it goes.:)
Good luck!
 
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"What do _I_ need to know about this?"
Once again this type of question. I find myself very tricky to ask this. How do you know what the answer is about?

Does it describe her? It seems like you and kenji first understood that the clear water is her for you to drink

Does it describe the situation or the relation?

Does it describe yourself in the relation?

Does it describes your inner emotions regarding the posibility that she can be interested in someone else? I think it does, but that's just me

How do you know what do you need to know? :confused:

BTW
29 among other meanings is the heart and emotions, sometimes implies sadness and depression
48 among other meanings is the spirituality and vital force
 

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Well the thing is - I do believe she has feelings for me that are "Dangerously deep." And that in fact might be the whole problem. But even though I would have done just about anything for her, I can't heal her of her past pain - only she can do that.
 

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