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Question about hexagram 42 re: expecting 'help' from a VIP commensurate with the help I gave. Answers: Hexagram 42.5 and 42 unchanging

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So a couple of months ago I intervened in a corporate takeover situation. And as a result helped a very powerful person keep his position.

I really admire the older man and followed his career for years. This was a HUGE risk but I felt so compelled to do as an outsider, it as if a larger force were pushing me.

Nothing happened thereafter ( this was 2 months ago ), but the impact I made was very significant and I can't help but feel wishful that the older man would reach out to me and help me, just like I helped him. or at least THANK me.

The questions I asked the I-Ching were:

The first question yesterday. was "What does X think of what I did for him" and the answer was 42, line 5, to 27.

from Richter, about Hexagram 42: "It is favorable to undertake great acts. A major auspicious omen".
Wilhelm about Hexagram 42, Line 5: "If in truth you have a kind heart, ask not. Supreme good fortune. Truly, kindness will be recognized as your virtue"

I feel it was very accurate as to what I did for him. It was a huge thing that i did to save his firm's reputation and his reputation. Yes I had nothing to gain from this but I expected at least a thank you.

Then today I asked " Will X help me the way I helped him?". The answer was 42 unchanging.

I understand. Increase is very good and suggests indeed, that I will receive something in return. The remaining question about the answer I received is, is this something general that could come from anywhere or is it something good that will come from the specific person I helped?

Does the answer mean that HE will increase me or that I will receive overall 'good karma' from my actions? I feel like it indicates that he will help me but I am not sure?

He has my contact information as I cc'd him in the emails I sent to the firm internally. All I get for now is silence.
 
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42.5 to 27 - maybe he thinks, or chooses to believe, that you did what you did out of the goodness of your heart because it was the right thing to do, and not because you wanted something from him (27). But 27 is still there in the background.

42uc - I don't know...it could be any of the things you said, or an unknown because of the unchangingness, or maybe two months isn't really a long time in the larger scheme of things...

One thing that's going through my head from 42uc (for this question) is that you don't, can't, or shouldn't have a role here: there's no relating hexagram, no role for you. I wonder if this means don't reach out to him in any way at all. (Not that you said you were going to, but a mere innocent "hello, hope you're well" might be too much.)

Why? Well...if 42.5 is what he currently thinks of you, that's a really, really lovely and uncynical opinion, and I imagine it's easy for powerful people to be cynical, probably because so many people do want things from them and in fact try to ingratiate themselves exactly for that reason. I imagine people like him have learned to be wary.

In other words, I don't think it'd be a good idea to risk messing with the 42.5. For some reason the 42uc makes the whole thing feel quite fragile to me. It points back to 42 from the first reading, but pointedly yanks away a role for you. I even wonder if it points to the original 27-relating and says, "Do not wake this up! Let it blank! Do not give him any reason to think you want anything from him!"

Obviously all of that is me guessing and I could have it all wrong. There's a big difference between trying my best to interpret this, and absolutely knowing what's going on as if he'd told me.
 

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42.5 to 27 - maybe he thinks, or chooses to believe, that you did what you did out of the goodness of your heart because it was the right thing to do, and not because you wanted something from him (27). But 27 is still there in the background.

42uc - I don't know...it could be any of the things you said, or an unknown because of the unchangingness, or maybe two months isn't really a long time in the larger scheme of things...

One thing that's going through my head from 42uc (for this question) is that you don't, can't, or shouldn't have a role here: there's no relating hexagram, no role for you. I wonder if this means don't reach out to him in any way at all. (Not that you said you were going to, but a mere innocent "hello, hope you're well" might be too much.)

Why? Well...if 42.5 is what he currently thinks of you, that's a really, really lovely and uncynical opinion, and I imagine it's easy for powerful people to be cynical, probably because so many people do want things from them and in fact try to ingratiate themselves exactly for that reason. I imagine people like him have learned to be wary.

In other words, I don't think it'd be a good idea to risk messing with the 42.5. For some reason the 42uc makes the whole thing feel quite fragile to me. It points back to 42 from the first reading, but pointedly yanks away a role for you. I even wonder if it points to the original 27-relating and says, "Do not wake this up! Let it blank! Do not give him any reason to think you want anything from him!"

Obviously all of that is me guessing and I could have it all wrong. There's a big difference between trying my best to interpret this, and absolutely knowing what's going on as if he'd told me.
wow thank you this is indeed so helpful, especially that you don't know the details.

Yes you are right, I did it because I hated seeing what was happening. Ironically because I didn't belong there, I am not an employee of their firm and I had no direct connection to the situation, I was in fact able to help. As you mentioned, no there is no role for me at all. In fact in order for this to have worked the way it did... I had not NOT have a role.

There is also a legal component to this, the company he sits on the board of ( the plot I stopped was a motion to try to remove him from this board ) is about to IPO ( prob in 6+ months ) and they can't risk anything until the company IPOs. My involvement allowed them to go ahead with the IPO ( the move I prevented was meant to sabotage the IPO ). If there was any sort of help of any kind, it could be construed as something that could be fought in court. Meaning they could argue that I am a 'plant' or something like that. IPOs in the USA are heavily regulated and are subject to a lot of legal scrutiny.

I have asked this to other intuitive people and they said 'he will come to you waaaayyyy down the line when the dust is settled' meaning 1.5 year or so. This makes sense, it would be past the IPO and 6 month IPO window.

It's just that the irony is, it would be nice to have his help now. But I will have to wait. I wasn't planning to contact him at all since anything that would look like I am asking for something in return could present legal liabilities.

I am now an official whistleblower against the person who tried to take him down so there's that too, at least I am protected by the government so they can't come after me. One thing I forget about is that in the USA whistleblowers can receive a percentage of government fines from financial institutions of up to 30% of the award. Meaning if the SEC finds the firm to have violated securities laws, then whatever fine they pay may come to me. This is relevant also but I honestly don't care. But it may affect how he sees his role. This will take a few years to play out anyway.

But thank you this confirmed it.
 
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Oh, okay, thank you. I can see the similarities there, but also that I made it too personal about him when it's more about the legal situation.

Similar bottom line, though, probably: sit tight, don't rock any legal boats... (Eep. Big scary world, sounds like to me.)
 

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