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It seems to me that there are two possibilities here. 1-the person told you the truth and has done you a favor. or 2-The person has not told you the truth for strange selfish manipulative reasons.I asked what’s disrespectful about this person A telling me that person B hates me and got 22 unchanging.
Could the unchanging nature of the answer mean in this case just absolute lack of grace?
I’ve been in the process of reevaluating my relationships and as a follow up question to a reading on how to approach someone I care about, I asked what’s disrespectful about this person A telling me that person B hates me and got 22 unchanging.
I found the whole situation childish, but also got upset, as on some level felt it was equally disrespectful to both me and person B. I couldn’t find good enough explanation however, to justify my feelings, and so I looked to I Ching for help…
Could the unchanging nature of the answer mean in this case just absolute lack of grace? Or would the image of the hexagram be more of a clue, pointing to light on the mountain, as if I’ve only started to uncover the tip of the iceberg with this simple question (either in regards to this person's behaviour or the matter of respect in general)? I might have read it even somewhere here before, but this hexagram reminds me of Plato's Cave, in this situation the person A being in "power" so to say, is casting shadows of actual reality on mine and person's B canvas, mountain... ?
Usually I Ching helps me put my thoughts into words and find the right meaning, but now instead of knowing how to verbalise better what's so particularly disrespectful about this, I'm even more lost in the relativity of morals.
or 2-The person has not told you the truth for strange selfish manipulative reasons.
Since you got 22, I am inclined to think the person did not tell you the truth.
22 is not the western notion of gracefulness or spiritual respectable dignity or decency.
I would avoid this person if I were you. You said you care about them but if it’s a habit, it’s no good.
You are not supposed to know what people think of you I believe
It seems to me that there are two possibilities here. 1-the person told you the truth and has done you a favor. or 2-The person has not told you the truth for strange selfish manipulative reasons.
I am also well acquainted to people that feel this urge to inform me that the whole world hates me and it’s terrible.
One of the last I can remember a couple of months ago, a teacher of mine informed me that my whole class believes I am worth nothing.
It is true a guy wrote to me in private a couple of times to sarcastically imply that my knowledge of cinema is rather low.
Yet at the final exams I got the highest mark in the entire class in the technical test.
And I spent these last months not at ease with the class, thinking of what the teacher had said.
we all have different images in mind when we speak or think in words, so even though we use them to communicate seemingly clear meaning, the actual semantic field of the message itself gets us constantly lost in translation. to me, when i think of grace (in english)...
The change from everyone sitting around a bar,What change?
Actually, it is a terrible song about alcoholics and marital infidelity.Nice song.
Right, that is why the Image says not to think you are going to have accurate judgement: the jun zi does not presume to execute justice.So to summarize 22: it’s not as it appears it to be. There may be something hidden.
You are focusing on a word that does not adequately capture the meaning of 22, and therefore still sort of missing the meaning.
'Grace' (which has more than one meaning in English) does not appear in the Yi Jing, the Title of 22 is Bi.
Try this exercise:
1-Erase the word 'Grace' from your mind.
2-Look at Bradford's list of keywords, and replace 'Grace' with each of of them, one at a time. Then you'll probably get it:
Dressing up, beautifying, decorating, embellishing; relation of form to content, Elaboration, costumery, vanity, cosmetics, fashion, facade, veneer, posturing, Refinement, style, grace, elegance, charm, class, etiquette, protocol, formality, Nearsight, limited vision, myopia, glamour, fascination, sham, illusion, pomp, Superficiality, public image, fancy surfaces; proximity’s effect on apparent size, Aesthetics, beauty way, highlighted substance; the cultural artifact as substance
Yes, he did include the word Grace in the list,
but your association with the word Grace in your example of the Deer is more like Agility, Nimbleness, Dexterity, Gracefulness,
Those things are not 22.
22 can indicate you only need to see what's right in front of you.
Sorry legume for hijacking your post.
(What a funny name though
In my language it’s something to eat).
Tested by her environment in the sense that her environment was trying to get that freedom away from her?there's a story, i think from Carol Anthony, that got stuck with me. she wrote about her experience of having used I Ching for a while and eventually finding some inner freedom and then all of a sudden being constantly "tested" by her environment. but, i believe, this serves only to gain necessary know-how for maintaining that freedom and self-worth permanently.
Which is not a good advice on buying something after all, certainly not a house.22 can indicate you only need to see what's right in front of you.
I recall Brad's example of mountain goats who can only live by using very short sight, they are on ledges, if they started gazing out over the landscape they'd fall off.
I love those songs.Actually, it is a terrible song about alcoholics and marital infidelity.
Ok so I'd better not buy this huge elegant house I think.Right, that is why the Image says not to think you are going to have accurate judgement: the jun zi does not presume to execute justice.
I want to single out this sentence for future bumpers into this thread.22 says i don’t understand the full picture behind what’s right in front of me, doesn’t mean i don’t need to see more.
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