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I'm a bit confused - I asked about becoming more whole hearted and got this reading of big extremes. any thoughts?
 
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The question was, how do I become whole hearted? And just to be sure, you are male or female?
 
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I'm a bit confused - I asked about becoming more whole hearted and got this reading of big extremes. any thoughts?

An interesting answer, 32.3.4.5>29 and one you will probably have to make sense of yourself. Not sure why you see it as about big extremes.

I'm wondering if you really feel you ought to be more consistent or that you make commitments you cannot keep (32.3) But the thing is it looks like you are trying to be consistent and so on in areas where there really is nothing for you (32.4) and if you are the young man in 32.5 rather than try for constancy (as the older woman does) you need to go off and explore and do your thing without making big commitments.

32.5 is not a line I can generally make a lot of sense of. So far I figure it's saying you decide what your role is in the situation. Are you the younger man or the older woman ? And you can be either regardless of what you actually are, it depends on the situation. Hilarys book says for 32.5 :


Lasting in your character with constancy.
For the mature woman, good fortune
For the young man, pitfall

In the phase of the time where one is like the older woman it is appropriate to cultivate steady constancy. But if you are like a young man here it is not, hmm shall we say 'natural' to settle down and to things with a steady persistence towards goals because actually you need to get about a bit first.

If your heart is not really in what you do it might be for a good reason. It's the wrong thing for you. You need to be exploring not settling down and developing consistency of character.


Now I may be making assumptions but the fact that you call yourself 'count duku' just sounds like a young man.


So you may be trying over and over again (hex 29) to make yourself more consistent, more steadfast, less changeable but actually I think this cast is saying you aren't able to be that right now. It's not right for you, it's not where you are. There is no gain for you in trying to be a stable person (32.4) and making commitments you cannot keep (32.3) if actually you need to be on the highway 'looking for adventure and whatever comes my way.......born to be wiiiiillld' .



It's an interesting answer to your question but not so easy for another to interpret because we cannot see the way you do. You really need to give more input here about how you feel and so on. What is your view of the answer ?

29 is often about repeated struggles with something, usually of an emotional nature...something you go through again and again. OTOH in this answer it could even be seen as the need to have some danger, to be alive...29 can be associated with thrills and spill, risk taking, 'holding the heart fast' amidst the swirling waters.

Also I wonder if these two hexagrams together might mean you have grown used to feeling insecure ?

If we take the 2 hexagrams as a sentence we have 'enduring repeating chasms' :confused: I wonder how you might experience that ?


See I don't actually know how you can take this answer as you have given no background and none of your own thoughts. What does this reading say to you ?
 

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no - I'm actually an older guy - I picked the id name because I had been watching that star wars the night before.

the thing about extremes in the question was about how #32 increasing seemed so positive and #29 seemed to me like such drudgery. I notice you have crab as an icon - so you might be a cancer - I am too so I get more emotional or binary (good/bad) to start with.

interesting side note - I did another casting here about a year ago - 10/01/12. Coincidentally that one was 51 thunder over thunder changing to 29 - water over water. They both changed to 29 water ove water. They both were around my wedding anniversary - and I came here for readings in both cases because of an argument the night before. So now I've told you quite a bit about myself.

I also use the Alfred Huang book for readings. I keep track of my readings in there - so that's how I know a lot of this stuff. I don't think I'm impartial in doing my own readings - so I guess that's probably why i'm reaching out to you folk - for more knowledge or impartiality.

btw - are you male or female. not that it matters - but since you asked me. it's ok if you don't say

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How do you define 'becoming more whole hearted'? What that means to you, and me, is probably very different.
 

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Cancer - after reading and re reading your your comments - I will say that your original impression was correct. I am the younger man here in this reading of the changing lines - rather than the older woman

this involves subtleties & interpretations - but that is the right way to look at it. I could say that in some ways - I may not have been entirely "what ever" with myself. your "grown used to feeling insecure comment - is pretty insightful".

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no - I'm actually an older guy - I picked the id name because I had been watching that star wars the night before.

the thing about extremes in the question was about how #32 increasing seemed so positive and #29 seemed to me like such drudgery. I notice you have crab as an icon - so you might be a cancer - I am too so I get more emotional or binary (good/bad) to start with.

interesting side note - I did another casting here about a year ago - 10/01/12. Coincidentally that one was 51 thunder over thunder changing to 29 - water over water. They both changed to 29 water ove water. They both were around my wedding anniversary - and I came here for readings in both cases because of an argument the night before. So now I've told you quite a bit about myself.

I also use the Alfred Huang book for readings. I keep track of my readings in there - so that's how I know a lot of this stuff. I don't think I'm impartial in doing my own readings - so I guess that's probably why i'm reaching out to you folk - for more knowledge or impartiality.

btw - are you male or female. not that it matters - but since you asked me. it's ok if you don't say

thanks

I didn't ask you if you were male or female, Blue Angel did.

There is no impartiality at all in understanding the I Ching IMO especially in the kind of question you have asked. You have to, with 32.5, decide for yourself if you are in the role of younger man or older woman. You have to understand answers from the inside. All others can do is share their thoughts

I still think you may be attempting too much constancy you cannot sustain. But then again it's hard to know what your question was about really as you only wrote one sentence.

the thing about extremes in the question was about how #32 increasing seemed so positive and #29 seemed to me like such drudgery.

:confused: sorry can't relate to that idea. Will leave others to help you with this
 

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Cancer - after reading and re reading your your comments - I will say that your original impression was correct. I am the younger man here in this reading of the changing lines - rather than the older woman

this involves subtleties & interpretations - but that is the right way to look at it. I could say that in some ways - I may not have been entirely "what ever" with myself. your "grown used to feeling insecure comment - is pretty insightful".

thanks

Crossed posts, didn't see this, thankyou. Still don't have much else to say, perhaps others will see more.
 

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It is related to a poem I read. It said something about not being totally committed in an endeavor - relationship. I felt that - so I asked the iching that question - regarding myself. I hope that helps.

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I'm a bit confused - I asked about becoming more whole hearted and got this reading of big extremes. any thoughts?

I see more the common theme of commitment in 32 and 29 rather the extreme position. Sometimes hex 29 situations requires one to be wholehearted.
 
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Hi,

Maybe its saying you can become more whole hearted by (32) enduring your (29) emotions/feelings. Going through your life lessons and experiencing your emotions until you understand them. However, still keeping your truth, your morals and standards that ring deep and true for you. Perhaps it is a growth that is never ending, for ones heart to
be whole.

Line-3 there's nothing wrong with your heart, be true to yourself, trust yourself, hold your beliefs.

Line 4- you are in a rush to fix your heart, or in a rush to be better, but its through sticking around, staying the course, that you will learn and grow. Everything has a right time and a season.

Line 5- maybe its both, through experiencing connection with others "and" doing whats right.

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