Questions about my son Hex 13.4.5.6>36

[blackberries]

Hi there. I've picked up the I Ching after a very long hiatus and am delighted to rediscover its wisdom and usefulness. I've turned to quite a few of the readings on this site to aid my understanding and am impressed by this forum, so thanks to Hilary for establishing it, and thanks to all of you for contributing.

So ... there is a line of I Ching questioning I've done that troubles me. It has to do with my son, who's only five years old, and I'm quite sure I lack objectivity where he's concerned. In brief, a few months ago I looked at his astrological chart, and I was very surprised to see what appears to be the chart of a leader of some kind of group, but possibly a very ... unusual group--I dunno, a punk rock band? A group of renegade fighters? A computer company that is somehow mixed up in dark stuff? To me this sounds kind of crazy, and it certainly is the kind of stuff that is worlds apart from what I am involved in, so I am just not sure.

I hadn't thought about that in a while, but tonight I asked the I Ching, "What kind of adult will my son be?" I received this answer:

13 Fellowship with Men
lines 4, 5, and 6 moving

becomes

36 Darkening of the Light

This reading reminded me of the astrological chart. I might also mention that these are not hexagrams I normally receive for readings regarding my own circumstances.

I also asked, as a follow-up, "What of this idea that my son might be leading something? What is the nature of what he will be leading?"

I received:

51 Shock, with line 6 moving

becomes

21 Biting Through


Of course my son's fate and karma are his own, and I cannot control his destiny; I can only help him to develop himself to grow up prepared to meet that destiny. But I am his mother, and these images and ideas disturb me.

Am I overreacting? I would be interested in knowing what any of you might think about the nature of these hexagrams and what they might mean to you in light of asking about a child's future.

Thanks very much,
Angela

 

[blackberries]

Oh, and I had the audacity to ask the I Ching again about this. Stating that I was worried, I inquired, "What about joy, creativity, domestic happiness in my son's life, and what about his safety?" (These being things that I value for myself!) Again I got

51 Shock,
this time with line 5 moving

becomes

17 Following.

I will sit with this for a while ...

 

[willowfox]

"What kind of adult will my son be?" I received this answer:

13. 4, 5, and 6 > 36

Personally I think you are letting your imagination run away with you, time to apply the brake of common sense and good reasoning.

The lines suggest that your son will be somewhat of a loner as an adult until he meets that someone special, he will not be a fighter, it will be in his nature to probably always find a compromise when confronted with aggressive people. It would also seem that your son will be totally devoted to whoever he chooses to be his friend/partner, so one could consider him to be a very reliable, steady, dependable and affectionate man, a man with upright principals. He will certainly not be some kind of renegade or outcast but neither will he be one of those people who have the need to be into everybody's business, it would appear that he will be fairly close to his family.
And it goes on to suggest that your son will be a very determined person in life but a person who shuns the glitz and glamour of life, a man who keeps not only to himself, a quite private man but a man who stays in the background, not so much shy but sensible.

 

[willowfox]

"What of this idea that my son might be leading something? What is the nature of what he will be leading?"

51 Shock, with line 6 moving

This line does not suggest a leader of anything but rather a sensible person who knows when to not only see trouble coming but to also jump out of the way very quickly thus avoiding any problems for himself in life. The line suggests that your son will be no fool, others around him may be stupid but he will not be.

 

[willowfox]

"What about joy, creativity, domestic happiness in my son's life, and what about his safety?" (These being things that I value for myself!) Again I got

51 Shock,
this time with line 5 > 17

Your son will be able to handle all the problems that life throws at him because he will learn to become emotionally balanced and nothing will faze him in later life, as said before he will know when to get out of the way of on coming trouble, so he will be safe. Happiness will also be his but not right away, that will take a bit of time to come about, and as for creativity, perhaps not but could well be a good and studious student when school days roll around, you must teach him about the bad guys at school, those he will need to learn to avoid. His school days will be very important, in the fact that he must avoid certain groups of no gooders at all costs.

 

[Trojina]

No point worrying about how your son may be on the basis of his astrological chart - whatever you read about aspects in books its always exagerated about a million times. If you believed what astrology books say most people would either be a mass murderer or a 'great leader' or mother theresa or something 'great'

Why not focus on your relationship with him now - afterall you are the biggest shaping factor in his life. Wondering why you're jumping the gun so here. The child is only 5, way too early for him to carry the projections of what hes meant to be like as an adult according to astrology books, the Ching or anything else. Be with him as he is now -

 

[Tohpol]

No point worrying about how your son may be on the basis of his astrological chart - whatever you read about aspects in books its always exagerated about a million times. If you believed what astrology books say most people would either be a mass murderer or a 'great leader' or mother theresa or something 'great'

Why not focus on your relationship with him now - afterall you are the biggest shaping factor in his life. Wondering why you're jumping the gun so here. The child is only 5, way too early for him to carry the projections of what hes meant to be like as an adult according to astrology books, the Ching or anything else. Be with him as he is now -

Absolutely agree with Trojan. "Be with him as he is now."

And yes, I think you are overreacting hugely. But I guess Mothers can do that...

I'd let things unfold as they will, and not put to much credence in fortune-telling about how your son may or may not be from any esoteric source. With even unconscious feeling from you based on likely erroneous projections and possibilities these can be picked up on by the child in very subtle ways which can then shape them accordingly making it a strangely self-fulfilling prophecy of your fears.

So let it all go so his future is as open as possible.

Topal

 

[blackberries]

Thanks for your replies. In my defense, for the most part I am with my son as he is now--after all, he is five, which pretty much requires that I be with him in that manner. Parenting is a pretty large job that requires presence, so I took for granted that people would understand I am not parenting my child with the I Ching or an astrological chart or trying to mold him into anything but am simply raising him as a responsible parent.

I agree that astro charts are not something to get too concerned about, but I don't agree that astro charts all say everyone is going to be a great anything--most charts I've seen are much more general than that. People with pretty different lives can have very similar charts. My child's chart is, to my mind, sort of strange--not implying that he will be "great" or anything. There's just some stuff in it I don't really understand. My husband happens to work in a fairly prominent leadership role, and is involved in politics, so it's not a stretch to think my child might eventually take up a line of work like that.

But anyway, I was generally hoping to be told my imagination was running away with me, so despite the tendency here to assume stuff about me that isn't really accurate, I thank you for quelling my worries.

 

[blackberries]

Oh, BTW, your responses made me reflect on what it is that really worried me deep down. My son has some health problems that make him vulnerable, and I guess my deepest concern is that he might be involved in something that would threaten his safety, his life. So I asked the I Ching one final question, which was "Will my son be safe in his adulthood and find fulfillment and success?" And the answer was

46 Pushing Upward

with no changing lines, which I take to be affirmative.

 

[meng]

Hi, Blackberries.

My son, then 8, at his mother's and my consent, was given a palm reading during a band rehearsal break, some 38 years ago. The reader looked shocked, and reluctantly told us that he would grow to have a large propensity for doing good, but an equal propensity for doing bad. It wasn't exactly what we as parents wanted to hear. It turned out to be impressively accurate.

So, lending the same straight forward type of response from the IC, I think his social skills are mostly what your reading calls attention to. But in these regards he strikes me (based on your reading) as a very normal boy, who will become a normally secretive and defensive teenager.

And then everything after that I see as being directed to what others here have already said. 21, 16, 51 ....all lots of excitement, imaginings and shock. The advise in all that is to stay calm, but also enjoy the ride. You only get to grow up with your kids once, and you should just enjoy it as much as possible. 21 is a firm regulation and decision, in this case to ease up. He feels everything you feel, including your anxiety, and that isn't healthy for his present nor for his future. Give him some good feelings about himself. He'll never forget it. He'll never forget the good or bad. I think 13 has a lot to do with that.