Should I continue studying Physics?

[sevilla_spain]

Hi everyone, again

I have a problem, and I don't know what to do : I had a vision (first time), where They spoke to me of Einstein and study Physics.

I'm a bad student, and I've never been to College.

After a few days of studying , I asked:

Should I continue studying Physics? 42.1.4.6>45
Should I stop studying Physics? 50.2 >56

I'm very confused. Any thoughts greatly appreciated :bows: (and sorry for my basic english)

 

[Liselle]

From Hilary's book:

42.1
"Fruitful to use this to make great beginnings.
From the source, good fortune, no mistake."

42.4
"Moving to the centre,
Notify the prince, he follows.
Fruitful to use this to inspire trust in moving the city."

42.6
"Absolutely no increase in this,
Maybe someone strikes this one.
The heart’s foundation is not lasting. Pitfall."


A wild guess (hopefully someone else will come along who has better ideas):

42 - There is some sort of increase and blessing here.
42.1 - This is a good thing to do, but...
42.4 - ...you're going about it in the wrong place or in the wrong way. The line talks about "moving the city" - maybe you should find an actual class of some sort to move your studying into, especially since 45, Gathering, is the relating hexagram (a formal class is a gathering of people). Maybe the point is that you should consider going to college? Or at least pursue some sort of formal higher education.
42.6 - A few days of trying to study on your own is not going to work. You won't stick with it, as you've already found out. (Note: I don't think this is your fault. I think very few people could successfully teach themselves a difficult subject in which they have no background, even if they had been good students. Classes and teachers exist for a reason.)

50.2
"The vessel contains something real.
My companions are afflicted,
Cannot come near me. Good fortune."

I think 50.2 reflects the doubts you're feeling after trying to study on your own. (The "afflicted companions" can be internal.) I think this reading is saying not to give in to the doubt, because there is something real and worthwhile in this vessel of studying. But hexagram 56, Wandering, as the relating hexagram, might be another reference to you wandering around rather aimlessly, trying to teach yourself. Maybe it's saying that the doubts you're having are because of the wandering way you're going about it, and again, maybe you'd do better in an actual class.

(As an aside - I don't think the reading says this, exactly - studying on your own won't give you any credentials that will stand up in the outside world. I guess it depends on your reasons for doing it - learning for its own sake can be a perfectly good thing to do - but if you have hopes of turning your studying into a career of some sort, you need something you'll get formal credit for.)

Again, though, I'm not terribly sure about these interpretations.

 

[Liselle]

Just had another thought.

42.1 says this is a good start - "fruitful to use this to make great beginnings."

Maybe it just means that you should get some more education of some sort - not necessarily in physics. I mean, I'm not saying physics is definitely not the field for you. I have no idea. But the reading might be saying, "Aha! You got the hint!" [From the vision, maybe, the "source."] "You've gotten the idea you should study something! Good! 'Use' that! Take a class! Pursue your education!"

Maybe it's too soon to tell where the "beginnings" will lead, and right now it might not matter. Just get started (but in a class, not on your own).

That might also be a way to see hexagram 56 as the relating hexagram in the second reading - that this will be a journey, and that's okay. You don't have to have it all planned out before you start - just start somewhere. (Most college programs have required classes that everyone must take, anyway.)

 

[sevilla_spain]

Thank you so much, Lisa!!! :bows::bows::bows:

Yes, I was studying on my own because I need bring my grade back up to 8 (Max. 10), but it is not working . I have 6.5/10, and last year, the last student who get into physics school, had 7.5 of average grade,.... but he had remained on the waiting list for more a month!!!

So I'll find someone who can help me (classes or teacher).

You're right about physics : I'm better in maths or chemistry... And I'm even better listening and helping others.

How do I know what I should study at college?

 

[Liselle]

I'm glad the readings helped (and made sense to you - as I said, I wasn't terribly sure of the interpretations.)

How do I know what I should study at college?

Is that a decision you have to make right away, or can you get started without knowing? Maybe when you're actually in college, it will become more apparent what you want to study.

If you want to ask the I Ching, I don't think a good question would be, "What should I study in college?" since Yi doesn't have names of courses in its vocabulary. It could hint at something, or it could sidestep the question and give you general advice, but a better question might be something like, "How can I decide what to study in college?" That way you're asking for advice without looking for a really specific answer. You're just asking for advice in making the decision, which Yi might be better at answering.

But if you can put off the decision (and I don't know whether you can or not), I still think it might be best to do that, and even put off asking about it. A reading might make more sense after you've started classes and have a better feel for things.

 

[pocossin]

If you have been a bad student in liberal arts studies, it doesn't matter for physics. Are you drawn to mathematics? What inspires you? How is your math? As I understand it, modern physics has two parts, the theoretical and the experimental, and although the theoretical runs ahead of the experimental, it must finally be put to the test of experiment, which requires extensive calculation. If you are strong in math -- if math inspires you (45) -- you will do well in physics. If you are weak in math, you will be weak in physics. My opinion.

 

[sevilla_spain]

Well, I really have no exams until the 15th July, and I suppose I can go into some schools with my average grade, without exams.

But, anyway, I have to choose one before I go. So, as you told me : "How can I decide what to study in college?" 30.6>55

With full (55) clarity (30), discipline myself (30.6)?

 

[sevilla_spain]

Thank you very much, Pocosin!!! You're right: I'm better in maths and it could compensate the physic. :bows::bows::bows:

But Einstein said: "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.". If I'm better helping others people, Should I choose my ability of physic? Or here are something I don't see?

 

[Liselle]

30.6
"The king uses this to march out,
There are honours.
He executes the chief – the captives are not so ugly.
Not a mistake."

Well - this might mean that if you just get started with something ("march out"), exactly what you should study will become clear on its own.

I'm not sure what you mean by "I have to choose one before I go," though. I don't know how college works in Spain. Here in the United States, when you first start college, you can take general classes in the beginning, the ones which are required for everyone. You don't have to decide on your final program of study right away. (I think there are some programs where you have to decide sooner, but most of the time you can wait a while.)

Of course, I might think 30.6 says that because that's what I thought in the first place. It can be easy to read things into a line that aren't really there .

 

[anemos]

I'm a bad student, and I've never been to College.

Yi :

 

[Liselle]

Yi :

#AmbiguousEmoticonBattle

 

[Liselle]

Another thing 30.6 might mean (can you tell how sure I am of anything??) is that you should pick the class that's most important to you, the one you REALLY want to take, and then other classes will fall into place around it?

(Maybe from a scheduling standpoint - if you schedule the most important one, it will narrow down what else fits in your schedule?)

(I do realize the question was about what program of study to pursue, which is a much broader question than scheduling particular classes...am trying to apply 30.6 somehow...)

 

[Liselle]

Yes, I was studying on my own because I need bring my grade back up to 8 (Max. 10), but it is not working . I have 6.5/10, and last year, the last student who get into physics school, had 7.5 of average grade,.... but he had remained on the waiting list for more a month!!!:eek

After reading that again, maybe another thing 30.6 might mean is that you can't be worrying about what to study in college before you're accepted to college? In other words, if what you're talking about with these grades and scores (8/10, 6.5/10, etc.) are some sort of entrance requirements, then that is the most important thing for you to worry about right now - getting higher grades on these exams, whatever they are. As you said, maybe you need a tutor to help you with it.

But somehow, 30.6 means that there is one important thing you should be working on right now (the "chief"), not a whole bunch of smaller things (the "captives").

You did say that your current grades will probably be good enough for some colleges, though, so, again, I'm not sure what to make of it all...maybe some reasonable amount of work will improve your grades enough to get into a better school?

 

[pocossin]

Thank you very much, Pocosin!!! You're right: I'm better in maths and it could compensate the physic. :bows::bows::bows:

But Einstein said: "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.". If I'm better helping others people, Should I choose my ability of physic? Or here are something I don't see?

Very few are geniuses in physics. For many, physics is an impossibly difficult subject. If you can handle it, you may do the world more good through physics than any other way.

 

[anemos]

#AmbiguousEmoticonBattle

Lol

In educating oneself it is best to root out bad habits and tolerate those that are harmless.
30.6

From here, seems yi comments on sevilla spain's words I quote. maybe he needs to revise a bit his opinion for himself...to me it's important before he embark to new lands.

 

[Liselle]

maybe he needs to revise a bit his opinion for himself

Well, okay, yes. I didn't take the vision or dream or whatever it was about Einstein all that literally - I doubt the universe is telling Sevilla_Spain that he/she will be the next Einstein (although who knows, I guess).

What I thought was maybe going on in the first reading was this: Sevilla had a vision about Einstein and studying physics > Sevilla studied for a few days and then asked Yi a couple questions about studying physics > Yi took the opening Sevilla provided to endorse the general idea of studying something - pursuing further education.

In other words, without the vision getting Sevilla to ask a question, Yi may not have had an opportunity to prod Sevilla back to school. Sevilla may or may not end up studying physics - I don't know - but it opened a conversation about education, which I think Yi is encouraging.

 

[sevilla_spain]

Thank you all so very much!!! :bows::bows::bows:

Lisa

So, Is it just a matter of time and it will become clear on its own? Ok, I shall await it. While, I will continue to study (physics, maths, chemistry), because they're common subjects of some Bachelors Degree. And I'll find someone who can help me. Thank you.

I'm not sure what you mean by "I have to choose one before I go," though. I don't know how college works in Spain. Here in the United States, when you first start college, you can take general classes in the beginning, the ones which are required for everyone. You don't have to decide on your final program of study right away. (I think there are some programs where you have to decide sooner, but most of the time you can wait a while.)

I'm glad that you have many options to choose your destiny. Here, when you finished the basic school (over 13 years), you should decide what you want to do. Each level of study is more specific.

In my town there are 2 universities, and also I can go into open university. They have various faculties, with associate degree, bachelor’s degree, master’s degree and doctoral degree. But I have to choose branch of study.

For example, to go into faculty of physical I have exams in physical, chemistry and maths. To go into faculty of literature I have exams in literature, history and latin. However, I can go into in faculty of maths or in faculty of history without exams.

So, what subjects should I choose? I'll choose physics, maths and chemistry. I'm crossing my fingers.

Another thing 30.6 might mean (can you tell how sure I am of anything??) is that you should pick the class that's most important to you, the one you REALLY want to take, and then other classes will fall into place around it?

Really, I'm not much more interested in learning in College than to learn I Ching, for example. But If I could help other people, of course I go into College!!! The class that's most important to me would be Faculty of Mysticism, but that does not exist.

Thanks, Best wishes...

Pocossin

Thank you very much again, his words touched me. You're right, in recent years science and technology (especially physics) has been strong, for both welfare and to promote ideas. I didn't think about it like that. Thanks again:bows:

Anemos

Thanks, I understand you and I should correct my bad habits. Maybe I didn't study enough, but I have worked hard for become a programmer, and after, a accountant, without going to college.


(I hope you can understand me ...)

Sam,

 

[anemos]

Anemos

Thanks, I understand you and I should correct my bad habits. Maybe I didn't study enough, but I have worked hard for become a programmer, and after, a accountant, without going to college.


(I hope you can understand me ...)

Sam,

Hi Sam,

My impression was that yi was gently teasing you for calling yourself a bad student so , I teased you too. I recall some past posts of you with your impressive achievements , so, the "bad habit" I was referring to was calling yourself a bad student.

I wish you all the best for your studies.

 

[Liselle]

Sevilla, after thinking more about what Anemos said, and noticing you said you already have some knowledge of programming and accounting - I wonder if the readings are suggesting you build on those things rather than starting something new?

42.1 could be saying directly, "use" what you already know - it's a good beginning.
42.4 and the relating hexagram 45 - I still think this is saying to take a formal class, but in one of the things you've already started.
42.6 - "No" to starting all over again in a different field like physics. "The heart’s foundation is not lasting. Pitfall" - stick with your existing foundation; don't throw it away and start something brand new. There will be "pitfall" if you do that.

50.2 - the "vessel" which contains something "real" could be your existing knowledge.

30.6 > 55 could be Yi telling you your questions have gone astray - "clarity" about what the first reading meant (the first reading would be the "chief") would have made the other questions unnecessary (sort of a profusion of readings, hexagram 55).

I mean, I'm still not sure, but I think it makes some sense to interpret things this way. One problem is that, unlike Anemos, I hadn't read any of your previous posts, so I didn't know anything about you or your situation. That's not good....

Anemos, what do you think?

 

[sevilla_spain]

Well, Lisa

1 If you want, you can call me Sam.
2 The knowledge that I have about programming and accounting reinforce the idea that I know math, right?

Programming can help me break a problem.

Accounting can help me economy of resources and sort the problem.

May be it?

 

[Liselle]

Hi Sam,

I have no more ideas, actually. The readings you've gotten have been generally favorable and encouraging, but about what, exactly, we've been unable to figure out.

The interpretations I feel most comfortable with right now are the last ones - that you build on the knowledge you already have. I think you said you are self-taught in programming and accounting? At least, you've never taken college-level courses in those subjects (or in anything else; you said you've never been to college) - is that right?

Maybe the readings are suggesting you take college courses in programming and/or accounting. Doing so would increase your knowledge (hexagram 42?), and give you more credentials for employers.

I'm sure there is overlap between math and programming, but it probably depends on the kind of programming and the kind of math. What kind of programming have you done so far?

 

[sevilla_spain]

Hi, Lisa

I understand your idea: At first, it was that I go to university and I get started without knowing, now you suggesting me that I build on my knowledge. Anyway, physics no (42.6). This is logical with Yi readings and you say something sensible... :bows::bows::bows:

And Yes, I've never taken college-level courses in those subjects.

But, just as I couldn't get my head around physics, until I understanded, thanks to Pocossin, I also believe that the past is to inspire the present. And If I've learnt anything is I follow my instinct:

Accounting is something I can do to make money, but it doesn't motivate me. And

Programming is ever changing, so I've lost taste... Although I can use programming for work.

For getting a job is necessary dedication and wish it. But now, I wish as a "revolution": Why are not I Ching, astrology, tarot,... studied as math, physics, chemistry,...? Why can't I recommend reiki as I recommend a visit to the dentist?

Therefore, I got a little excited with physics. Because I could demonstrate (something) and tip the balance. There are many holistic hospitals. Why can't we progress in areas such as telekinesis, telepathy, etc.?

Ops! Sorry, at times I'm spacing out...:bag:

Well, according to his interpretation I should study programming, for example, shouldn't I? Ok, thank very much!!!

So far I've programmed in Visual Basic and Java. In VB, we used finite mathematics for rotating 3d objects, ranges of random numbers,...