Show me an image of this man as he relates to me- Hexagram Tai 11.1 to 46

[swtchks]

I have feelings for this guy at work which I developed before I knew he has a live in girlfriend of many years. They have been together since teens and have kids. He flirted with me and since I felt alot of chemistry with him, I felt he had a platonic crush on me too. However now that I know he has a girlfriend I stay away from him and sometimes I feel angry about having him lead me on. It hurts that maybe it was just wishful thinking on my part to assume he also had more than sexual feelings for me. I have never met his girlfriend because he does not take her to work events where everyone else takes their partners which is why initially I assumed he had just had two kids but was no longer with the mother. I asked the I ching to show me an image of this man as he relates to me. I was not expecting a positive hexagram. Please help me interpret.

 

[eastern_girl]

If it refers to him and not your own feelings, he feels attracted to you and sees you as someone who shares his interests. 11.1 suggests there is indeed a connection between the two of you. Is it platonic or romantic? Hard to say. You do work together and get along so it could simply show that.

All the best!

 

[blue_angel]

I received this answer before, its in a journal I keep. It may or may not mean the same for you. Oddly enough, it was the same situation. Except he was actually married. Sad, painful, bump in the road.

If you read Liss most recent thread, 46, can be progress through manipulation. I think it was described as a tree putting its roots down. The roots will bend and grow however they have to so the tree can push up and grow. Advance.

Basically he 46- advanced by indirectly manipulating me. 11- I wanted peace, and to flow naturally. Although it seemed we did have a natural connection, in order to have peace (11)- there has to be proper conduct according to heaven and earth.

So line 1- I went to the source, the root of the issue, him, and asked, what's going on here? Although he tried to beat around the bush, dodging the question, I was forward. And if you pull up thatch grass, all of the roots of its kind will come with it. What did this mean? He had kids, a wife, a family. He admitted he loved his wife and family and was sorry for misleading me. I suppose it could go the other way, you could be roots of his kind? Either way, it ended in good fortune, I got to the root of the problem, was able to restore my peace and advance in life.

Go to him, confront him. If you've already been intimate with him, the departure will be painful but necessary to pull up those roots for growth, peace, and advancement.

At the time... I didn't quite understand that answer. Iching? You mislead me? Although the line 1 was pretty obvious for me. (Get to the roots and what its with will also come with it.) It wasn't until recently in Liss thread that it all came together, when 46 was further explained, and I was able to look back, I got my ah hah moment. Awfully late, that was forever ago. But better late than never. Nothing like clarity.

 

[Tim K]

I had the same thought before even reading blue_angel's answer.
If you want him, you will get the whole shebang: two children, wife and a wagon of troubles.

Go see him and have an honest dialogue, or just reconsider your goal and pick a higher one.

 

[eastern_girl]

Sure, that's a possibility too, I won't disagree. There are so many ways to read an answer. But ...what if Yi did directly respond to her question, exactly the way she framed it? She wanted to know how he related to her, not the other way around. To be really honest, many times I got a very accurate answer about the way someone else felt about me . After a while, it proved to be correct. While we assume Yi won't tell us how someone else sees us , sometimes it really does, if that helps us in any way. I'm not saying I'm right and you're not, no. The more perspectives we have, the more we all learn.


EDIT: I'm not sure though if she should go talk to him, nothing much has happened between them yet. At least that's how I understood.

All the best,
Eastern Girl

 

[blue_angel]

The advice of the line is to go forward, then there will be good fortune. Go forward where? With him? Without him? How can she go forward with him if she doesn't know the situation? If she goes forward without him, what if its false information? So yes, it gives a view of her question but it also gives advice to follow and its certainly not telling her what advice he should take.

I gave my experience with the answer which happened to be the same situation. Sometimes things like that are not an accident. Another point is, if its as you perceive "nothing has happened yet between them" then how could they be roots of the same? Its like saying roots off of the same tree, family roots, ties.

Then again she said she has "feelings" for someone "nothing" has happened with and "she was hoping he had more than sexual feelings for her". If "nothing" has happened, who's to say he has sexual feelings for her at all? People innocently flirt because they have a flirtatious personality. His niceness/ (peaceful) way=11 could've been mis-perceived if that's the case, and "nothing" happened. And even in that case maybe Iching is still answering it the same. How does he relate to me? Well, he is peaceful with you, (11), but beware his family is where his path is, he already has roots, and if you try to pull him up, up come his family too, line 1, so best to go forward, good fortune.

I mean logically if she received false information and he's single, she doesn't want to ignore someone she has "feelings" for. In that case perhaps, its saying the kids come with. It'll ultimately have to be an answer she resonates with. What was her intuition saying when she read that line? Then again for clarification, she could very well ask Iching "how should I act towards name?" "What action should I take with name?" And "what is the potential between name and I?" I don't know if you've read the relationship advice on here by Hilary, its a sticky at the top of where you post your shared reading, but like she says, you definitely don't want to build imaginary castles in the sky, that can prove to be painfully regretful.

My main point of analyzing this line is for all to learn and join in debate if they wish. Seems it would help to discuss how and why we see the answer the way we do, to further understand what exactly its saying. No? The way I see the line, why would Iching use pulling up grass and the roots come with it. Grass is thick. Roots are deep. Soil is tough. Ever pulled weeds with your bare hands? Or tried to pull up grass? Its not easy. Hurts your hands. If your intention is to get the roots up so it wont grow back, that can REALLY be a task. So if the roots are tied close together, clumped, and roots run deep, sometimes as deep as 48 inches. Yet this line says, pull up the grass the roots are staying intact, they are coming with it.

So my question for you would be, how do you see it as "nothing has happened between them, yet they have a connection, that could simply be referring to work"? That doesn't really seem quite as deep, tight, together as roots would be? If you thoroughly read both of my posts, you would see I was neither disagreeing or agreeing. Sure I bend more so towards the direction Ashteroid pointed out, however I also mentioned the other direction. In both posts. Yet rather than enlighten with your view and explain how you seen it or why, you seem to take defense.

 

[eastern_girl]

As I said, I don't disagree with you. I was simply offering a different perspective. I got this line in the past too. As for the advice, I also said I was "not sure" talking to him is the right thing to do. I never said I knew for sure. I see the advice of this line as: listen to your intuition, to the universe, it will tell you what you need to do (took that from LiSe's translation/commentaries, approximately).

Have a nice day!

 

[swtchks]

Thank you for analyzing this. When I asked the question I was thinking about his intentions and how he is relating to me, flirting just to seduce or is he having the same sweet feelings and how we might relate. It is true nothing physically has happened between us. I just have a sweet crush on him that I would not act on unless he was single. Sometimes I wonder if his relationship is over even though it is not officially over, since he has not taken her to work events in almost a year. However I realize this may just be wishful thinking of my part. It is very easy and tempting to build imaginary castles and misinterpret what the Iching is trying to tell me with what seems like a promising Hexagram as far as how this man might relate or feel towards me. Considering what hillary posted about asking the Iching how someone feels about you and thanks to some of your responses I can see other possible responses and not just what I would like to hear. I recently stopped working with him. Maybe it is telling me it is good to dig for the roots, use my head, listen to advice in order to go forward with my life and not be chasing after a taken man even it it is just in my head and fantasies. Thanks. I am going to reread the hexagram and look at the post you mentioned on 46

 

[eastern_girl]

Thanks for the update, Swtchks.

And sorry, Blue Angel, if I sounded a little harsh in my previous post. It was not my intention. I'm a Scorpio, I give voice to my first thoughts and impulses. Sharp tongue is my other name (well not all the time). English is not my mother language, so I try to cut short and maybe I don't always choose the best words.